Police Record Check while out of state

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I have accepted my offer for NAPS 2020 and am working to submit the three required documents. However, getting the Police Record Check sent in has proved to be difficult as I am from Virginia, but am currently stationed in California on AD. I have called every police organization I can find from VA (county/city/state/sheriff/etc.) but none have been able to remotely fill out the form for me yet.

My questions are:

1) Those who are from VA, what police org did you go through to have this form filled out? Did you do it in person or is there a way to email it in that I am missing?

2) If I already hold a TS/SCI clearance, is there any way to get this form waived in the worst case scenario?

3) Is there a specified due date for this form? There isn't one posted on the portal.

Thank you in advance!
 
2) If I already hold a TS/SCI clearance, is there any way to get this form waived in the worst case scenario?

Recommend that you contact your Admissions Counselor, or even NAPS directly. (My experience a long , long time ago was that USNA Admissions was not well versed in the mechanics of NAPS accessions, although they are probably better now). Alternatively, perhaps you could find a Chief at your Base Security Office who could make the call to your home of record police department. I suspect a peer to peer contact may be more effective than some stranger calling the VA police department out of the blue.

The USNA/NAPS PTR is probably a one size fits all package, designed for the kid coming out of High School. If you already have a TS/SCI, the Police Record is probably not material or relevant to you. However, you should be careful about assuming anything, or showing any sign that you think that jumping through the hoops is beneath you --sometimes you are going to hold your thoughts and suck it up. Good luck to you !
 
I have accepted my offer for NAPS 2020 and am working to submit the three required documents. However, getting the Police Record Check sent in has proved to be difficult as I am from Virginia, but am currently stationed in California on AD. I have called every police organization I can find from VA (county/city/state/sheriff/etc.) but none have been able to remotely fill out the form for me yet.

My questions are:

1) Those who are from VA, what police org did you go through to have this form filled out? Did you do it in person or is there a way to email it in that I am missing?

2) If I already hold a TS/SCI clearance, is there any way to get this form waived in the worst case scenario?

3) Is there a specified due date for this form? There isn't one posted on the portal.

Thank you in advance!
We live in Chesterfield County, VA. DD dropped off the form in person and they called her when it was ready. Make sure they are understanding what you need also just a records check not a “background check”. They refused to mail and she contacted admission’s counselor and he said just mail. Maybe they would allow a parent to drop off form signed by you or accept the signed form via the mail and maybe mail if you include the stamped envelope for USNA. Maybe call back to your city or county and explain your situation and hopefully talk to the right person. If you already have security clearance seems like they could take that into consideration. I am sure your admissions counselor could give you some guidance if you aren’t able to get formed completed. I don’t recall information on due date for form. Good Luck
 
Just my thoughts, but I think you all are "overthinking" this issue. A "police records check" can and probably should be done at the Law Enforcement Agency where you have been stationed, one from VA would be meaningless if you are AD and been away for two or more years, and if you decide to call the "security official" at the Academy or ROTC Command, I believe they will tell you "if you currently possess a federal security clearance" that they will get that info if you tell them you have one and if the BI was done in the last four years your current clearance will transfer. Our DS was sent emails and a letter explaining this very thing, you should have received a similar letter or email, notify them of your current clearance as specified and I think the "police check" is moot. Congrats on the appointment to NAPS!!!
 
A lot of people run into hurdles at this step. From what I remember if you’re unable to get the records check done, you just need to let admissions know and send them a signed letter stating that you were unable to get the police check done and whether you have a police record.
 
How useful is a separate police check if the SF-86 also triggers such type of background checks? Isn’t it redundant?
 
Just park in front of the local police station, play your music really, really loud & the police will do your records check for free & in a timely manner!;)
 
How useful is a separate police check if the SF-86 also triggers such type of background checks? Isn’t it redundant?

It is indeed. However the SF-86’s aren’t processed until late fall of plebe year. Still, to an outsider it appears to be little more than a formality.
 
How useful is a separate police check if the SF-86 also triggers such type of background checks? Isn’t it redundant?

What, the Navy doing something that is redundant and inefficient ? I'm shocked !
(At this point, the Plebes to be should simply follow instructions; they can try to change the world when the are LT's).
 
The Navy is actually smart to ask for local (PD, Sheriff, etc) authority criminal record checks based on where you have lived. Not all local authorities report arrests to the FBI or even state databases (NCIC-National Crime Information Center, CJIS-California Justice Information System as federal and state examples). The local checks along with state and national checks are the only way to obtain the most accurate criminal history check. Remember the case of the Texas church shooter who was able to legally purchase a weapon because the USAF had not reported the required records to the feds.
 
Being retired Law Enforcement...… a Police Records Check (local where you live) is simply a way for the employing agency (in this case the military) to see if you have pending or recent issues that will cause you a problem later on so they don't waste the time or money on a full Background Investigation. It gets you in the door so to speak, but DOES NOT grant any type of Security Clearance! The SF-86 or Request for Background Investigation is something a trained investigator (usually) conducts and includes NCIC, NLETS, and NADDIS Checks, PLUS the investigator will review your financial records, student loans, credit cards, spending habits. They may and usually do also speak with those you list on personal info forms as to what you were like as a young adult, who your friends were, and what your teachers and neighbors say about you. Then they produce a report to the requesting authority that details everything they found.

This process used to be pretty easy, but since all the big high profile security breaches in the last fifteen years things are much tighter. I think, after speaking with a person at USMA that the "police check" gets you in the door, but before you can be granted a Secret or above clearance the SF-86 or BI needs to come back clean. I have seen agencies require repayment of student loans or outstanding debt prior to accepting the appointment (both civilian and military) and granting clearances. There is a big issue with finances as the agencies are very wary of anyone with debt that may be susceptible to taking bribes or trading info for money. Same thing with any history of anything involving sex and money, or not being truthful on forms or during interviews, again the appearance of being susceptible to someone threatening to expose you. Our DS was advised that if you currently have an active Secret or above clearance from the federal government they will ask the agency that granted your clearance for the BI info if it is recent and use that to transfer your clearance.

Most applicants to academies should not have many issues, they usually don't have student loans, debt, or criminal history (hopefully), and the family and neighbor info is usually pretty clear and not an issue. it is the older people or people that moved a lot or had some employment issues that usually have a more difficult time. IMHO, I think if you are AD, have a clearance, and get a police check from your police at your duty station you will be good as gold.
 
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