Army BOLC dates for 2019?

It's a long way from Lawton, isn't it?

You were a year ahead of my DS and a great resource. Hope all is well and please share what you can about the "where are they now."

Lawton is a very unique place that I take pride in being able to avoid.

I promise I’ll post an update on what I’m doing soon (not that I’ve ever really known what I’m doing, I just roll with it). I do read the forums regularly, just don’t post much
 
It's a long way from Lawton, isn't it?

You were a year ahead of my DS and a great resource. Hope all is well and please share what you can about the "where are they now."

Lawton is a very unique place that I take pride in being able to avoid.

I promise I’ll post an update on what I’m doing soon (not that I’ve ever really known what I’m doing, I just roll with it). I do read the forums regularly, just don’t post much
Lawton...an interesting place (okay, remember I'm an AF pilot type...)

However...it's NICE, VERY NICE compared to the AF location about 50-ish miles to the west: Altus AFB.

Don't get me started about that "fine town."

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
DS had less than 48 hours from commissioning to AD, his path was... Graduate on a Friday, commission on Saturday, pack on Sunday . Start active duty Monday , drive to Ft Knox as cadre for the summer. 2-3 days travel time to Lawton for FA BOLC.
 
that's a long wait from graduation! How does it work during the wait for BOLC? does the new officer still get fully paid and service time accrue for the wait for BOLC (does this count towards the 5 year service obligation while they await BOLC?) or does the 5 year clock start during BOLC? just wondering as I have no idea how the process works.

Service academy O-1's begin getting paid immediately after graduation/commissioning, thus the need to get them through BOLC first. I'm not sure how ROTC does it, but in the past when they commissioned both RA and Reserve officers RA officers were also paid immediately after commissioning, Reserve officers were not paid until they reported for active duty. SA O-1's and those ROTC commissioned RA who had later BOLC dates found themselves doing odd jobs until their report date since they were already receiving a paycheck.
In my case, I was a Reserve officer and was given a report date of early August, so I really didn't make any plans for the summer. I had been home for about two weeks when I got a letter in the mail. Due to budget cuts my report date was pushed to the next fiscal year, 8 October. Some Reserve officers had their post-OBC (the old name for BOLC), active duty cancelled and had to scramble to find jobs.
 
I'm not sure how ROTC does it

For the Army, ROTC Grads are given an activation date just before they are required to report for BOLC, for my son it was about 8 days prior to his report date. This covered his travel time. His report date was not until December 27th, he commissioned May 15th of that year. He was not paid during this time and was not on AD until the 21st of December. Some AROTC grads will pick up a slot at CST or become a Goldbar Recruiter, if this happens they will start AD when they report to either. My older son reported 2 weeks after graduation, he arrived at Rucker about a month before SA grads started showing up, I guess because a lot of them were on leave prior to reporting.
 
For the Army, ROTC Grads are given an activation date just before they are required to report for BOLC, for my son it was about 8 days prior to his report date. This covered his travel time. His report date was not until December 27th, he commissioned May 15th of that year. He was not paid during this time and was not on AD until the 21st of December. Some AROTC grads will pick up a slot at CST or become a Goldbar Recruiter, if this happens they will start AD when they report to either. My older son reported 2 weeks after graduation, he arrived at Rucker about a month before SA grads started showing up, I guess because a lot of them were on leave prior to reporting.
Are they still commissioning some RA and some reserve in ROTC? That makes a difference. RA is paid from day of commissioning. Reserve when you report for active duty.
 
They no longer have the separate designations for AROTC grads, all grads are RA when the start AD. I'm not sure how the actual commissioning status is listed, it could be that the commission is Reserve which could explain why they don't enter AD upon commissioning, but I do know that once they start AD they are then all RA. Wish I had a better explanation, maybe someone with more knowledge will chime in.
 
I haven't yet looked at my son's paperwork, but what Jcleppe explained is essentially how it is . . . DS graduated and commissioned. He has paperwork that says he will be Active Duty once he reports to his first duty station. In the mean time, he has a part time job . . .
 
I haven't yet looked at my son's paperwork, but what Jcleppe explained is essentially how it is . . . DS graduated and commissioned. He has paperwork that says he will be Active Duty once he reports to his first duty station. In the mean time, he has a part time job . . .
Active duty and Regular Army are two different things. I served 12 years active duty as a Reserve Officer. Once promoted to major I either had to take the RA commission or request a REFRAD (Release From Active Duty). I chose the latter and pursued a civilian career.
The fact that he is not paid from the day of commissioning makes me think he is a Reserve Officer assigned to active duty or is a Reserve Officer until going on active duty.
Granted, my experience is “dated” so the truth may be different.
 
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Yep — checked this AM...he has a “reserve commission” ... but not in the reserves ... becomes Active Duty when he checks in at his first duty station (no pay until then) ... what I’m not clear on is if his commission changes to Regular Army once he checks in on AD ... guess we will find out then ...
 
Yep — checked this AM...he has a “reserve commission” ... but not in the reserves ... becomes Active Duty when he checks in at his first duty station (no pay until then) ... what I’m not clear on is if his commission changes to Regular Army once he checks in on AD ... guess we will find out then ...
That’s how it used to be. The only difference between RA and Reserve on active duty was that Reserve officers would sign “USAR”, RA would sign “USA”.
 
According to Wikipedia, so take it for what it is worth ...

"Since passage of the 2005 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), all active duty officers are commissioned in the regular army. Eligible commissioned officers serving on active duty were automatically converted to RA on/or after Veteran's Day, 11 November 2005.[23]"

If accurate, commission will change to RA upon AD activation.
 
2005 NDAA, Title V, Subtitle A, Section 501, (c), (5):

"(5) Section 531 of such title is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

‘‘(c) Subject to the authority, direction, and control of the Presi- dent, an original appointment as a commissioned officer in the Regular Army, Regular Air Force, Regular Navy, or Regular Marine Corps may be made by the Secretary concerned in the case of a reserve commissioned officer upon the transfer of such officer from the reserve active-status list of a reserve component of the armed forces to the active-duty list of an armed force, notwith- standing the requirements of subsection (a).’’. "
 
Active duty and Regular Army are two different things. I served 12 years active duty as a Reserve Officer. Once promoted to major I either had to take the RA commission or request a REFRAD (Release From Active Duty). I chose the latter and pursued a civilian career.
The fact that he is not paid from the day of commissioning makes me think he is a Reserve Officer assigned to active duty or is a Reserve Officer until going on active duty.
Granted, my experience is “dated” so the truth may be different.

Falcon A has the correct info posted. The old system that you went through no longer exists. While the commissioning certificate says Reserve Commission, once they start AD they are automatically switched to RA. At that point forward there is no distinction between a ROTC grad and a SA grad, they no longer are required to take that extra step down the road to switch to RA.
 
Falcon A has the correct info posted. The old system that you went through no longer exists. While the commissioning certificate says Reserve Commission, once they start AD they are automatically switched to RA. At that point forward there is no distinction between a ROTC grad and a SA grad, they no longer are required to take that extra step down the road to switch to RA.
Thanks for the update. I figured my data was somewhat dated. But it didn’t sound like they were RA from day 1.
I assume academy grads are still RA from the date of commissioning?
 
For clarity (though the above is correct), the way it happened for us at FA BOLC was on the date of your commissioning it was a reserve commission, but as we inprocessed Fort Sill one of the steps was to complete a new RA commission form. Essentially the same exact form and our battalion commander at Sill signed it. From then on we were RA officers.
 
For clarity (though the above is correct), the way it happened for us at FA BOLC was on the date of your commissioning it was a reserve commission, but as we inprocessed Fort Sill one of the steps was to complete a new RA commission form. Essentially the same exact form and our battalion commander at Sill signed it. From then on we were RA officers.

Glad to hear from you Bull. Doing OK?
 
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