SaltiDawg
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Not known to whom?
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Soldiergriz
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Do you have a link? Stats? Report? Article? Quote from the Army?
What we have here is a post stating something as a fact. I simply asked for a reference.
Do you have one?
Soldiergriz
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Not agitated. I guarantee I know far more about the status of the Army Officer ascessions and company-grade retention than the poster who heard something from his son.
Those reading these posts are entitled to facts. None have been posted.
Sorry, for some reason I cannot get the link to post. John's Hopkins posted a study dated 04/18 showing we have a retention rate of 80 % for males and 70% for females. Compared to the Navy and Marines of 90% and 80% of the same gender and 85% and 80% for the AF. No the sky is not falling and I never said it was.
The U.S, Army officer corps’ chronic trouble retaining good junior officers
When I was a student at West Point and since, I periodically heard about the Army or the military lamenting that too many junior officers were getting out rather than staying in long enough to become captains or majors. That, in turn, meant that the pool from which they could promote officers to...
johntreed.com
Service academy graduates could see longer military obligations
Studies show academy grads have lower junior officer retention rates than other officer commissioning sources, lawmakers say.
www.militarytimes.com
How to Prevent the Army’s 'Brain Drain' - Modern War Institute
West Point Cadet Bradley Baker argues that exit surveys for all officers leaving the Army with 8 or fewer years of service is a critical first step in understanding and eventually countering lower junior officer retention rates.
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Did you actually read the study referenced in the article? It says that the Service Academy (West Point in the study) has a 6% HIGHER retention rate.Service academy graduates could see longer military obligations
Studies show academy grads have lower junior officer retention rates than other officer commissioning sources, lawmakers say.
Studies like this often pick and choose the time period - 5 years, 7 years, 10 years, etc. Other studies that look at different time periods have different results but again, even the study referenced disagrees with what the article says. Sadly, the Army/Navy/Air Force/Military Times familyof papers are pretty far from anything that a journalist would recognize. Some of my friends call them the "National Enquirer of Defense Info"
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How to Prevent the Army’s 'Brain Drain' - Modern War Institute
West Point Cadet Bradley Baker argues that exit surveys for all officers leaving the Army with 8 or fewer years of service is a critical first step in understanding and eventually countering lower junior officer retention rates.
So the 2015 article cited Carter (paraphrasing) wanting to update computers and personnel files to better match new officers compatibility and job choice to actual placement while yielding longer retention rates. Fast forward to WP class of 2020 and the new branching process, it happened. Time will tell how effective it may be.
It has also been stated in probably every Academy Day presentation I’ve been to that the ROI of an SA investment by the taxpayers is realized long after a “five and dive” graduate leaves the service. Most will go on and continue to contribute at a “high” level in many different ways to directly and indirectly benefit our Nation long after their commitment.
It’s seems that the same group of people/media continuously pick at the SAs every chance they get to discredit them and their benefits to our military and Nation.
The SAs offer more than just a commissioning source, that should be the takeaway.
Soldiergriz
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There is not a single platoon in our Army without a lieutenant.
There is not a single company without a CPT commander.
There is not a single battalion without MAJs serving as executive officers or operations officers...
There are lines of others waiting for their turns in these positions.
Those are facts.
Company grade officers leave the service everyday. Most go on to serve our Nation in other meaningful ways, and they are well prepared to do so.
It's OK.
We simply thank them for serving. They are among the less than 1 percent who does so.
There is not a single company without a CPT commander.
There is not a single battalion without MAJs serving as executive officers or operations officers...
There are lines of others waiting for their turns in these positions.
Those are facts.
Company grade officers leave the service everyday. Most go on to serve our Nation in other meaningful ways, and they are well prepared to do so.
It's OK.
We simply thank them for serving. They are among the less than 1 percent who does so.