DoDmerb and Support Dogs

Everyone let’s take a deep breathe. It is an odd question and I am sure the great Mr Mullen is handling the medical aspects of a diagnosis that would warrant an emotional support dog off line. Thank you for that sir, we appreciate your expertise and willingness to help out candidates and Cadets/Mids.

OP, you have to understand why this created a stir. The stress of college is nothing compared to what you will have in uniform as a leader of Soldiers. The responsibility and accountability is immense and only grows as you move up in rank. Learning to deal with stress in a healthy way is a key component to your progression as an officer. Calc and engineering classes are no cake walk... calling in a case evac or nine line under fire, while moving your platoon tactically is so much more stressful than I can even put into words. You are young and still have 3.5 years of ROTC to continue to grow and develop healthy stress relief habits that you can carry with you to the operating forces.
 
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SEAL box breathing. PT. Good sleep hygiene. Balanced nutrition and mental breaks for fun. Being mindful. Living in the present and not borrowing worry from the future. Breaking down the mountain of stress into bite-size pieces. Learning to compartmentalize and focusing on what you can control. Being able to coach yourself out of these rough spots with your own mind and body is an essential skill for military people.

I am sorry you are having challenges related to stress, and this is a year unlike any other for all of us. All the normal patterns of life seem to be broken.

Do some thinking about how you learned to handle rough spots as a kid. My mom was a tough, smart, formidable and loving woman who pushed me to solve my own problems and let me fall down, fail, figure out ways to succeed, in little challenges, without running interference for me unless she absolutely had to get involved, because she knew life didn’t get any easier. The gifts of self-confidence, grit (I like to think I have some), and understanding life can be messy, complicated and just plain hard, with a belief I can get through whatever it is, I attribute to my parents. If you had a different parenting style (not wrong but different), it is never too late to learn self-reliance and confidence in your abilities to gain some control over how you are feeling and creating your own ways of fixing things.

Your RA is likely not a professional counselor. Perhaps there is a student health and counseling center with counselors you can talk to/zoom with in an informal way? Not necessarily looking for a diagnosis (you are right to be mindful of your medical record), but conversations with people trained to help you find insights and solutions.

Some good professional reading:

 
Not sure if I should add here, but here goes--as a mental health therapist and a service connected parent and wife--therapists throw around DSM diagnoses and most are unaware of the ramifications. Be careful. These things stick with you. In my opinion, everyone could qualify for a diagnosis of some kind at some point in life. I went into therapy to help people get over these issues and I think I pretty good at it:) but the military doesn't often see things the same way.
 
I must say when I first saw this post I thought it was a wind up. I couldn’t understand why anyone needing a service dog for stress would think it would have no impact on their ability to serve. However I decided not to comment.

I am truly sorry that such a valuable resource as @DevilDoc has been banned from this forum. It’s such a shame we have lost his advice and wisdom especially to such a poorly considered topic to post in the first place.
 
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Just a couple of random thoughts, having just read the entire thread this AM upon seeing the, hopefully, temporary banishment of @DevilDoc:

Sorry, @JBfortunecookie1, when I saw this thread last week, I didn’t even make through the first paragraph before moving on. I have an Oncologist friend. He has patients with support dogs show up at his office, filled with immunocompromised patients In the waiting area. There is nothing he can do other than refuse to treat the patient, which runs up against his oath and possibly even the law. So, I’m not a sympathetic ear to begin with. My first thought was, just go the pound and get a mutt. Plenty of college kids have dogs.

Then I saw that you live in a dorm. I thought, go volunteer at a rescue shelter, or do anything to get your mind occupied elsewhere and off your stressers. I think @Capt MJ was making this point, as usual, much more eloquently than I. Remember, you are not the exception. Most college kids, especially Freshman Engineering majors away from home for the first time during a pandemic are stressed. Her post is spot on. The mechanics and ramifications of creating a record are best left the @MullenLE.

You have obviously reached out for advice, but you must have known that the advice you’d receive would reflect the experience of those you approach. The response you get at SAF will be different than the response you get from the Little Sisters of Lost Puppies. The way you present the dilemma also makes a huge difference. If you had expressed more concern about your ability to serve, instead of concern about a “threat” to your scholarship, you would have been met with a lot more @Capt MJ and a little less @DevilDoc, who ironically is probably best equipped to put your stress into a context which you can carry forward.

I chalk it all up to callow youth and I assume you’ll be fine.

Another thing struck me was the responses you received. I thought some were overly harsh. I understand the knee jerk reaction. I am a “shoot first ask, questions later” sort of guy. @JBfortunecookie1 is an 18-19 year old kid. I have no standing as a veteran or health care professional. My only standing is that of guy who cares for no one more than his wife and 2 sons, one of whom in an Army O3.

8 weeks prior to going to SFAS, DS#1 received the most devastating news a supremely confident twentysomething year old male at the top of his game can receive. He was in an testosterone rich environment of like minded young men, completely stripped of his self-image. For weeks, I spoke to him everyday, sometimes more than once a day. I was concerned about the advice and counsel he would receive in the environment I described. I feared a cycle of blame and recrimination.

He was very fortunate to be considered a valuable member of the unit, from the E’s to the BC. He was also very fortunate to have an excellent mentor, an enlisted soldier several years older, who was in the process of Delta selection/qualification. He stressed that the mental health professionals are there for a reason and they know unforgiving high achievers inside and out. Both his mentor and the pros emphasized cold-blooded introspection. Bottomline, he came out on the other side. He delayed selection for several months. His mentor picked him up at the airport when he arrived and was there to meet him after selection, which he completed successfully. He is a different young man today, better equipped to lead. He prided himself on being the guy who could be trusted and relied upon. He needed to learn the other side.

@DevilDoc ‘s political comments make me bristle a bit, but I like his wealth of experience, his sincerity, his obvious love of his family, and his sense of humor. I have had several excellent PM exchanges with him and hope to have more in the very near future.

Wow that was long!

Enjoy your weekend and stay safe!
 
This site is soft. Ready for the ban hammer; I don't care. @DevilDoc provided the truth even if a bit abrasive.

An ROTC scholarship recipient asking random strangers on the interwebs about getting a service dog for stress...and main concern is retaining their scholarship deserves a powerful and straight-forward response. The response is no.

Nearly 20 veterans a day take their own lives. We have no room for the weak or timid....particularly in their early phases of training. No room. None.

Ban me if you must...just a nearly 30 year serving Colonel in our Army here.
 
To close the loop on this discussion, if someone requires a legally prescribed support dog for medical purposes, they should have it for their own health and welfare.
That legal medical requirement, is not compatible with military service and would receive a DoDMERB DQ, for the condition that requires the support dog.
 
To close the loop on this discussion, if someone requires a legally prescribed support dog for medical purposes, they should have it for their own health and welfare.
That legal medical requirement, is not compatible with military service and would receive a DoDMERB DQ, for the condition that requires the support dog.

Thanks Doc.
 
Devil Doc Is that you up there? You're on such a high horse it's difficult to see you. Indeed, if you've added value to the conversation, it didn't survive atmospheric reentry.

In all seriousness, a service dog can be legitimately needed. I see no harm in exploring one's options, and seeking out advice from a supportive, military-minded community. OP is researching and gathering facts, and it is perfectly valid to wonder what the impact will be on their scholarship. If they remain eligible for a scholarship, more power to them. The U.S. military has decided they're still worth the tax dollars. If a service dog will make them ineligible, clearly OP is willing to find other ways to cope with stress.

In addition, your three points don't exactly qualify you to decide who should get what taxpayer money. You don't know a lick about OP, other than what's contained in the post. It seems to me this forum is a place for help and advice, not belittling and grandstanding.
While what @Devil Doc said may have rubbed some people the wrong way, he is spot on.

I don’t know OPs medical history. I do recall OP’s previous posts. Seems like a high-stats kid who did a lot of research on schools and commissioning sources. OP is seems to be the type of person who seeks first to understand and then make the most informed decision.

I would recommend OP to seek other methods because an ESA and potentially the diagnosis associated with needing one is not compatible with military service. You can’t deploy with a peacock or beagle.

If a ESA is definitely needed, then please get one. You need to take care of yourself first. In an ideal world, we wouldn’t let outside issues (eg scholarship) decide on a treatment method.

OP... if you can take care of yourself using other means, then please do so. Good luck.
 
This site is soft. Ready for the ban hammer; I don't care. @DevilDoc provided the truth even if a bit abrasive.

An ROTC scholarship recipient asking random strangers on the interwebs about getting a service dog for stress...and main concern is retaining their scholarship deserves a powerful and straight-forward response. The response is no.

Nearly 20 veterans a day take their own lives. We have no room for the weak or timid....particularly in their early phases of training. No room. None.

Ban me if you must...just a nearly 30 year serving Colonel in our Army here.
Truth, presented with civility, is always welcomed here, Colonel.
 
Count me in as the biggest @DevilDoc fan. His contributions here are deserving of the ban being temporary, and personally I am hoping for it to be lifted soon

But I didn’t understand this thread and surprised at the reaction to the OP, so I stayed out of it. Even if it is a really stupid question in the eyes of most on here, it is still a question by a member, and a young one who from what I can see wasn’t trolling with the question

Sometimes it’s best to stay away and let the compassionate people like @Capt MJ answer it.

In the meantime, I will look forward to the day our friend is welcomed back.
 
Wow ... I rarely venture down to the DODMERB page, but had to find what got Devil Doc banned.. Imagine my surprise - a retired Senior Chief, with lots of "been there, done that" expressing his unfiltered opinion ! :rolleyes:

I don't have anything to add to the original question., except to say that if OP (or anyone else) needs mental health care, GET IT ! There are plenty of resources out there. That said, any recommendation for a Service Dog should come from a mental health professional, not an RA. IMHO, I see a lot of abuse of the Service Dog protections, particularly by Millenials (including by my own DD), to the detriment of Veterans that really need them.

Finally, there is no such thing as a "free education." Service Academies and ROTC do not exist to to facilitate an individual education, they exist to provide a source of young Officers, in every branch of the Military, and perhaps one of the most critical qualifications is the ability to manage stress and LEAD your men and women in the most stressful environments imaginable. There is no such thing as a "non-combat" job anymore; all officers need to be prepared to lead when the sh!t hits the fan, and when that time comes --- Freshman year of college is going to look like a cakewalk.

I can't fault Devil Doc, for whom I have a lot of respect., for calling it like he see's it. Honestly, he often writes what I am thinking. Somehow I've learned that I don't have to say or write everything I think , but I also recognize that sometimes you gotta ruffle feathers to get the point across. I hope the Ban is temporary, and more important, hope 'Doc returns without the need to fliter his thoughts.
 
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