ROTC Recoupment Negotiations

GWU PNS said:
Periodically checking throughout the day, but it would appear no further clarification is forthcoming. So, either previous answers sufficed, or my train of questions perhaps caused a light bulb to turn on and there could be some parent-child discussion as to "what really happened".
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The OP hasn’t been on the forum since your first answer in order to read it. I’m sure they will be by soon enough. I appreciate your willingness to help.

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GWU PNS said:
Only because AROTC-dad asked.....

A couple things in the original post that confuse me….

“convinced her to join at the end of her Freshman year. When ROTC paid her education in her Junior year all the way back to Freshman year, the money paid went to my daughter and to the school for the amount they each contributed.”

The only process I know of to achieve something like this is the Side Load scholarship. Assuming application went at the end of the Freshman year, it would have been a 3 year scholarship. I am aware of no scholarship that would pay back to Freshman year when the applicant was not part of the NROTC unit.

As part of that application, there should have been an officer interview where things like propensity to serve were discussed. Not sure if that happened. There should have also been a medical set of forms which potentially identify any issues prior to signing a contract.

Next area of confusion for me…..this statement “she has now been looking to leave NROTC on a medical disqual.” Taken literally, she has reported to the unit that she has a medical issue and wants to be disqualified? She is asking to be disqualified? Or how did this come about exactly? I bring this up because timing is everything…..which preceded which? Was there a PRB issue being addressed, and the medical issue came up after, or concurrently? Or was there a lingering issue of a medical nature and the PRB issue followed afterwards. And why does that matter? Because it is a possibility that a person could seek a medical disqual as a means of covering over a disciplinary issue. No one wants to think it happens, but my experiences would say it does and it has.

Next up…..”The unit also placed her on Personal leave of absence instead of Medical leave, both of which seem to be contrary to how the situation should have been handled.”
Trying to be polite, but if you have not fully digested the ROD, you are not in the position to fully understand. A personal leave of absence is completely at the discretion of the PNS, although he/she needs to document the specific reasons for it and not simply be arbitrary. A medical leave of absence requires medical documentation, and is almost always done in consultation with the Naval Service Training Command medical staff, or BUMED. And to be removed from the medical leave of absence is not a simple matter. A PNS will often place someone on personal LOA because the scholarship can be reinstated more quickly, so it’s meant to help the student.

Some other thoughts. The PRB paperwork is typically never shared with a university. The NROTC unit may simply advise the Bursar or Registrar that the scholarship has been rescinded, but specific reasoning is not shared. One caveat to this is if whatever issue transpired was already known to the university. Example: Student becomes drunk and disorderly on campus and assaults campus police. Police reports are filed, and sent to the Unit. PRB happens, student perhaps is disenrolled, university is notified. So if the university is withholding any form of financial aid, then they somehow have specifics on the issue and perhaps it occurred on campus.


During the PRB, what documentation of the prevailing medical condition was provided for reference? And was that from a competent medical authority which laid things out clearly?

Separately from all of this, how were the grades overall? How were the fitness reports compared to other NROTC Midshipmen? It goes to the comprehensive decision that the PNS was left to make.

Lastly, in terms of negotiations for recoupment, things need to go one step at a time. The PNS decision is submitted for review by a long list of people, and ultimately it gets adjudicated at the Assistant Secretary of the Navy level. That’s when there might be a consideration for negotiation. It’s too soon to ask for some form of repayment reduction, although your lawyer can advise better. But you run the risk of acknowledging responsibility/guilt and it becomes a matter of how much to pay back.
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As a side note to all, while I am not and never have been a member of the military, I honor those that serve via charity volunteer work and fundraising I have participated in for many year's with my state Trooper's association. I am thankful that many men and women dedicate their life to serving our country at all levels.

@GWU PNS
I appreciate the time you took to answer this, and this is precisely why I am here.
I don't fully know how my daughter achieved her NROTC recruitment. she signed her contract during her 2nd semester Freshman year. I believe she participated in NROTC since late in her first semester.

she did go through a healthcare screen, there apparently was an issue with Asthma that needed to be cleared and was determined not to be a disqualifying factor.

issue here is if proper procedure was followed per the timeline and if I should be contacting my US representatives and because the college and my home are in the same state, my state representatives? per thread above the only reason to contact them would be if proper procedures were not followed in the current situation?
so we have the conflict of the BUMED review not being completed when the PRB was convened as per below for other reasons as outlined below, should the PRB not have happened until the BUMED review was done. If BUMED would recommend disenrollment, wouldn't that preclude the PRB from happening?

other than that, our disenrollment attorney is working with my daughter on the personal statement that will get submitted with the package. I am curious at what point we contact the Navy to try and negotiate a partial recoupment? and what office that actually is?

Basic timeline
she reported anxiety issues to LT on 2/28
LT told her to see a doc, she saw a psychologist and a psychiatrist, the latter Diagnosed her with _____ Disorder and ______ Disorder, recurrent severe without psychotic features. She has been prescribed ____, which is a ______ drug, and is used to treat ______ and _______ disorder.

Pursuant to DoDI 6130.03, Volumes 1 and 2, these diagnoses alone are bars to MIDN’s enlistment or retention in their current states, as well as her qualification to participate in the NROTC program. Additionally, MIDN’s current prescription of _______ is a disqualifying medication for her participation in the NROTC program and the military at large.

3/17-she reported above to LT, provided documentation and requested a Medical LOA. LT then told her not to take meds until he spoke to CO (against Dr orders), next day told her ok to start meds, also was told she would "need to sign a 30 day letter soon" - 3/18 she also provided letter from MD with DX and RX.

3/22 she was provided with correspondence dated 3/21 that a BUMED review was initiated, it also notified her that she was not granted medical leave. at the direction of LT, she submitted for a personal LOA due to the denial of medical leave pending review by BUMED. 3/23 paperwork for PLOA was fully executed.

during her LOA she experimented a couple of times with marijuana, this was found out by members of her unit(proper term?) and reported.

4/12- MIDN met with LCDR per his request. At that time, MIDN had been on personal leave and awaited results of the BUMED review. During this interview, MIDN admitted to smoking marijuana as a desperate self-help method of dealing with her mental health issues.

4/26 MIDN received a PRB Convening Order and was informed that this hearing must occur on either May 6, 2022 or May 9, 2022. However, MIDN has received no notification or correspondence regarding the BUMED review of her medical disqualification, which, if she is determined to be medically disqualified from service, would be dispositive of her status in the NROTC program.

5/9 - PRB occurred, PRB recommendation was 2-1 in Favor of Disenrollment and NONrecoupment
5/12 - CO sent letter to MIDN informing her that he was not in the same opinion of the PRB and was recommending Disenrollment & Recoupment
 
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Stealth_81 said:
The OP hasn’t been on the forum since your first answer in order to read it. I’m sure they will be by soon enough. I appreciate your willingness to help.

Stealth_81
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thank you, yes, I actually have a day job! Part of which is working with former members of the military on their finance careers as a recruiter and consultant.
 
NROTC help needed said:
As a side note to all, while I am not and never have been a member of the military, I honor those that serve via charity volunteer work and fundraising I have participated in for many year's with my state Trooper's association. I am thankful that many men and women dedicate their life to serving our country at all levels.

@GWU PNS
I appreciate the time you took to answer this, and this is precisely why I am here.
I don't fully know how my daughter achieved her NROTC recruitment. she signed her contract during her 2nd semester Freshman year. I believe she participated in NROTC since late in her first semester.

she did go through a healthcare screen, there apparently was an issue with Asthma that needed to be cleared and was determined not to be a disqualifying factor.

issue here is if proper procedure was followed per the timeline and if I should be contacting my US representatives and because the college and my home are in the same state, my state representatives? per thread above the only reason to contact them would be if proper procedures were not followed in the current situation?
so we have the conflict of the BUMED review not being completed when the PRB was convened as per below for other reasons as outlined below, should the PRB not have happened until the BUMED review was done. If BUMED would recommend disenrollment, wouldn't that preclude the PRB from happening?

other than that, our disenrollment attorney is working with my daughter on the personal statement that will get submitted with the package. I am curious at what point we contact the Navy to try and negotiate a partial recoupment? and what office that actually is?

Basic timeline
she reported anxiety issues to LT on 2/28
LT told her to see a doc, she saw a psychologist and a psychiatrist, the latter Diagnosed her with *edited* and *edited*, recurrent *edited multiple words* She has been prescribed *edited multiple words*, and is used to treat *edited*.

Pursuant to DoDI 6130.03, Volumes 1 and 2, these diagnoses alone are bars to MIDN’s enlistment or retention in their current states, as well as her qualification to participate in the NROTC program. Additionally, MIDN’s current prescription of *edited* is a disqualifying medication for her participation in the NROTC program and the military at large.

3/17-she reported above to LT, provided documentation and requested a Medical LOA. LT then told her not to take meds until he spoke to CO (against Dr orders), next day told her ok to start meds, also was told she would "need to sign a 30 day letter soon" - 3/18 she also provided letter from MD with DX and RX.

3/22 she was provided with correspondence dated 3/21 that a BUMED review was initiated, it also notified her that she was not granted medical leave. at the direction of LT, she submitted for a personal LOA due to the denial of medical leave pending review by BUMED. 3/23 paperwork for PLOA was fully executed.

during her LOA she experimented a couple of times with marijuana, this was found out by members of her unit(proper term?) and reported.

4/12- MIDN met with LCDR per his request. At that time, MIDN had been on personal leave and awaited results of the BUMED review. During this interview, MIDN admitted to smoking marijuana as a desperate self-help method of dealing with her mental health issues.

4/26 MIDN received a PRB Convening Order and was informed that this hearing must occur on either May 6, 2022 or May 9, 2022. However, MIDN has received no notification or correspondence regarding the BUMED review of her medical disqualification, which, if she is determined to be medically disqualified from service, would be dispositive of her status in the NROTC program.

5/9 - PRB occurred, PRB recommendation was 2-1 in Favor of Disenrollment and NONrecoupment
5/12 - CO sent letter to MIDN informing her that he was not in the same opinion of the PRB and was recommending Disenrollment & Recoupment
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I appreciate the thorough reply with chronology, since it helps fill in the broader context.

A couple disclaimers up front, and regret if this makes me sound like a lawyer. Obviously, I am not a lawyer, nor do I profess to have a great deal of experience with disenrollment processes. I have only dealt with one during my tenure. So, with that being said, I obviously have to tread a thin line between being an active duty naval officer and representing to some degree the Navy, while trying to be helpful in the context of a public forum.

One recommendation, and maybe the moderators can help with this. If you can edit your post, I would remove the specifics of your DS medical information, especially the medication portion. While I am sure the two of you get along, she is entitled to medical privacy, and this board and all its contents are front facing to the public.

From what I see in the chronology, the medical review was underway prior to the PRB. I know medical reviews take time.....without getting into specifics, I have had a Midshipman under review for 6 months now. Some things take a while because we just don't have a lot of military specialists in certain fields. Add to that this is the graduation/commissioning season and the medical teams are overwhelmed with thousands of commissioning issues. (every aviator needs a flight physical through NAMI, every submariner needs a nuke physical, every Seal and Diver needs a special physical, etc)

Without belaboring the point, I think there is value in filing a statement that articulates the current state of DS medical condition. If the current treating doctor can spell out details regarding self medicating as a coping mechanism, then that would help. And I think a reasonable request would be that the PNS at least consider discussing the specifics of the case with DS doctor or even BUMED.

This offers the chance for a reconsideration by the PNS, and perhaps the outcome would be different. If that does not cause a reconsideration by the PNS, it at least shows good faith by DS to resolve at a lower level. Then all of the other options such as congressional outreach are still in place and can be used as the case is being reviewed.

A question will arise perhaps as to why the treating physician did not offer a written statement of facts to the PRB.....so I would have that answer in the back pocket.

Short of that, I can't go into much more detail since the PRB paperwork isn't in front of me and it's impossible to get inside the head of the board members or the PNS at the time.

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GWU PNS said:
I appreciate the thorough reply with chronology, since it helps fill in the broader context.

A couple disclaimers up front, and regret if this makes me sound like a lawyer. Obviously, I am not a lawyer, nor do I profess to have a great deal of experience with disenrollment processes. I have only dealt with one during my tenure. So, with that being said, I obviously have to tread a thin line between being an active duty naval officer and representing to some degree the Navy, while trying to be helpful in the context of a public forum.

One recommendation, and maybe the moderators can help with this. If you can edit your post, I would remove the specifics of your DS medical information, especially the medication portion. While I am sure the two of you get along, she is entitled to medical privacy, and this board and all its contents are front facing to the public.

From what I see in the chronology, the medical review was underway prior to the PRB. I know medical reviews take time.....without getting into specifics, I have had a Midshipman under review for 6 months now. Some things take a while because we just don't have a lot of military specialists in certain fields. Add to that this is the graduation/commissioning season and the medical teams are overwhelmed with thousands of commissioning issues. (every aviator needs a flight physical through NAMI, every submariner needs a nuke physical, every Seal and Diver needs a special physical, etc)

Without belaboring the point, I think there is value in filing a statement that articulates the current state of DS medical condition. If the current treating doctor can spell out details regarding self medicating as a coping mechanism, then that would help. And I think a reasonable request would be that the PNS at least consider discussing the specifics of the case with DS doctor or even BUMED.

This offers the chance for a reconsideration by the PNS, and perhaps the outcome would be different. If that does not cause a reconsideration by the PNS, it at least shows good faith by DS to resolve at a lower level. Then all of the other options such as congressional outreach are still in place and can be used as the case is being reviewed.

A question will arise perhaps as to why the treating physician did not offer a written statement of facts to the PRB.....so I would have that answer in the back pocket.

Short of that, I can't go into much more detail since the PRB paperwork isn't in front of me and it's impossible to get inside the head of the board members or the PNS at the time.
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thank you again, I DO appreciate your current position and the overall context of this situation.

on the redaction, I just did that pursuant to your advice. You may want to edit your post and delete the quotation of my post since you have the version prior to my edits quoted.

Definitions please?
PNS?
DS?
seems like you agree that congressional outreach is appropriate. I would assume that now is the time to do that? I'd assume I would want to provide congressional reps with all documents relating to the matter?
 
NROTC help needed said:
thank you again, I DO appreciate your current position and the overall context of this situation.

on the redaction, I just did that pursuant to your advice. You may want to edit your post and delete the quotation of my post since you have the version prior to my edits quoted.

Definitions please?
PNS?
DS?
seems like you agree that congressional outreach is appropriate. I would assume that now is the time to do that? I'd assume I would want to provide congressional reps with all documents relating to the matter?
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PNS = Professor of Naval Science
DS = Dear Son and I should have put DD (Dear daughter) those acronyms predated me on this site so I don't claim to have created them.

In terms of any congressional outreach, that is always an option and it isn't my place to advocate one way or the other. It does help focus attention and speed things along. It could also help in terms of the university's role in revoking a scholarship or denying financial aid.
 
NROTC help needed said:
A friend was once on the staff of a US Secretary of State, I reached out to him on this issue for guidance, I described the situation my daughter is in and instead of using NROTC, I used the word cult, it made sense to him.

But really, is that THE problem I need to address? The problem that needs to be addressed is that a young woman's entire financial future is on the line because both ROTC & the school's FA department failed to explain in her non-standard case how she was going to be responsible for the school's portion of the recoupment and would be giving up a rich financial aid package inclusive of merit aid that she worked very hard to obtain.
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The school and ROTC failed to explain? Your daughter is an adult, was presented with a contract I presume she read. I am guessing that since she's a college junior and is probably studying some intense and difficult material, that she was able to fully understand the contract. I think she simply needs to step-up, take responsibility, and own the situation.
 
I find myself echoing other posts in recent days but at this point I would think a letter from her physician noting she is trying to cope with an emerging medical condition, and that she is devastated that her military career is over might help. I think also if that letter could propose where she furnishes all monies she would have paid after the merit/ aid scholarships alone (as if ROTC didn't cover), that she is willing to take ownership and do that, would be a perhaps well received compromise. I don't think your daughter who signed a contract should profit from this as an outcome, the scholarship does come with obligation that is clear, but perhaps again there is a path to repay that could be surmounted in time.

Appreciate the pendulum has swung away from twisted-mustache conspiracy theories of a cult to some appreciation for the community at-large. Thanks for that. please let us know how this turns out. also you may not convince the PNS but perhaps in final additional reviews things with a fair proposal will be supported - IDK but good luck.
 
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The school and ROTC failed to explain? Your daughter is an adult, was presented with a contract I presume she read. I am guessing that since she's a college junior and is probably studying some intense and difficult material, that she was able to fully understand the contract. I think she simply needs to step-up, take responsibility, and own the situation.
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she was given the contract when she was 18 years old. The schools are very good about saying she is an adult, but reverting to parents on finances including the presentation of our tax information for financial aid. House contracts say. 'this is a legal document and you should review with an attorney," the contract for ROTC does not.
additionally most ROTC candidates do NOT sign up after the beginning of school, most go to school intending to do ROTC. What % are actually giving up financial aid to get the government piece? Why is it wrong for her to have assumed the school wouldn't "repay" their share to the government if she quit? The school's endowment came out ahead in this situation, but they never told her what would happen.

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I find myself echoing other posts in recent days but at this point I would think a letter from her physician noting she is trying to cope with an emerging medical condition, and that she is devastated that her military career is over might help. I think also if that letter could propose where she furnishes all monies she would have paid after the merit/ aid scholarships alone (as if ROTC didn't cover), that she is willing to take ownership and do that, would be a perhaps well received compromise. I don't think your daughter who signed a contract should profit from this as an outcome, the scholarship does come with obligation that is clear, but perhaps again there is a path to repay that could be surmounted in time.
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agree with this and will be following this completely. The goal is to try and do exactly this.
 
I admit, this is confusing for me. On the lesser issue, can I ask why 2 years ago $35k/yr with no strings attached was handed in for a NROTC scholarship with heavy commitments? I ask because my plan B or C is to apply for a ROTC scholarship, but if I receive a merit scholarship that covers a healthy amount of costs I may just decline the ROTC scholarship. I'd still do ROTC. Does the student have a choice in the matter of which scholarship is used?
 
GWU PNS said:
Periodically checking throughout the day, but it would appear no further clarification is forthcoming. So, either previous answers sufficed, or my train of questions perhaps caused a light bulb to turn on and there could be some parent-child discussion as to "what really happened".
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Thats the part i hate about forums like this. People tell stories and ask questions about one thing or another and most (not always) we never get the resolution.
 
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I admit, this is confusing for me. On the lesser issue, can I ask why 2 years ago $35k/yr with no strings attached was handed in for a NROTC scholarship with heavy commitments?
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NROTC help needed said:
was allowed by the school to seduce her into giving up a sweet aid package
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I don't get this either. Perplexing decision. Even though it's probably not relevant legally to whether she is or isn't finanically liable, I can't help but think someone somewhere along the line might ask for an explanation about this decision for equitable reasons, perhaps in trying to fashion a compromise. On the surface, it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.

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she was given the contract when she was 18 years old. The schools are very good about saying she is an adult, but reverting to parents on finances including the presentation of our tax information for financial aid.
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This is absolutely a fair point and drives me crazy about the higher ed system.
 
ReDux said:
I admit, this is confusing for me. On the lesser issue, can I ask why 2 years ago $35k/yr with no strings attached was handed in for a NROTC scholarship with heavy commitments? I ask because my plan B or C is to apply for a ROTC scholarship, but if I receive a merit scholarship that covers a healthy amount of costs I may just decline the ROTC scholarship. I'd still do ROTC. Does the student have a choice in the matter of which scholarship is used?
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my daughter went in with a $18k a year merit scholarship, she got other need based aid provided ranging from a Pell grant to a small state contribution for attending a school in the same state she lives in, etc. Depending on her parents finances (again, is she a minor or an adult) this fluctuated with their self -employed incomes and she got anywhere from a 25-40% ride.
apparently the way they did ROTC it was an all or nothing approach.
I did ask at the time about having ROTC fill the gap between what aid she already had and the total cost, but the school was set up such that they stripped about the other scholarships and inserted a University ROTC scholarship that pays room & board.
 
What was it about NROTC that appealed to her? Not the financial piece, as she already had that. Did she want to serve? Commission? How did she get into this (other than freshman NROTC roommate)?

There are for sure good lessons here for future readers.
 
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justdoit19 said:
What was it about NROTC that appealed to her? Not the financial piece, as she already had that. Did she want to serve? Commission? How did she get into this (other than freshman NROTC roommate)?

There are for sure good lessons here for future readers.
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VERY good questions @justdoit19
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she was a volunteer firefighter in HS, always into service, so this was an extension of that. The disenrollment attorney asked her the same thing. Her answer was that she wanted to do something interesting with her life, something that mattered more than just having a "job." It was as I recalled the conversation when asked this when she was making the decision. One thing that turned her off was that when she did 2 weeks on a significant ship last summer, she felt like people she saw on the ship clearly didn't love their jobs. She may have had the top gun romanticized view of naval life as opposed to the day in/ day out life in the Navy.
 
A bit off topic, but not fully... My older kids pressed hard for us to get a family dog - I mean full court press. "oh yes, Dad, we'll walk the puppy four times a day". Absolutely, Mom, we'll help feed it and change it's water and help with baths and...

As a contingency to getting the dog (who is a huge part of our life) they each signed a notarized for fun contract. They learned the value of being careful not to sign agreements. "that was the worst deal ever", they say. Yep, and you signed it, so... I reply. Yes, my wife and I do most of the walking esp with 2 of them off to college now, but my kids learned the value of not signing anything without understanding it fully.

This lesson was second only to our "one of you cut it in half and the other one can pick which half to take" rule when there's like one piece of pie to split and two kids wanting it. That one helped a lot of the younger ones from getting ripped off and taught fairness. I still think they should add that rule to kindergarten teaching curriculum worldwide:)
 
Not sure if this will help or confuse things as to the interplay between NROTC units and their respective universities, but at GWU things flow basically as follows:

At the start of each semester, my supply technician sends a request for invoices to the bursar's office. The bursar looks up each student and prints out a specific invoice listing all tuition and fees. Our supply technician then validates those invoices and I sign off on a summarized list which is then submitted as a budget request up to the Naval Service Training Command. They do their own validation and auditing and then funds are disbursed to the university through EFT. The bursar credits each student account and we ask the students to verify their tuition reflects as paid.

If there are other scholarships for athletics or other reasons then it is incumbent on the university to determine how they allocate that. In some cases, they may send a reduced tuition bill to NROTC. But they usually take back their own funded scholarships to offer them to other students since they know the Navy is going to cover tuition fees.

There are times when there can be multiple military aid packages, such as the Montgomery GI bill, or the Tilman scholar program or others. Each university had a Veterans Affairs liaison who determines which tuition source pays first according to federal law. So NROTC really doesn't get to decide much of anything. The unit gets an invoice, submits it for review, and the funds are disbursed.

Some people may not like that process, but to be candid, this is why universities listen when we call the registrar and ask them to take another look at accepting a Midshipmen.
 
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Not sure if this will help or confuse things as to the interplay between NROTC units and their respective universities, but at GWU things flow basically as follows:

At the start of each semester, my supply technician sends a request for invoices to the bursar's office. The bursar looks up each student and prints out a specific invoice listing all tuition and fees. Our supply technician then validates those invoices and I sign off on a summarized list which is then submitted as a budget request up to the Naval Service Training Command. They do their own validation and auditing and then funds are disbursed to the university through EFT. The bursar credits each student account and we ask the students to verify their tuition reflects as paid.

If there are other scholarships for athletics or other reasons then it is incumbent on the university to determine how they allocate that. In some cases, they may send a reduced tuition bill to NROTC. But they usually take back their own funded scholarships to offer them to other students since they know the Navy is going to cover tuition fees.

There are times when there can be multiple military aid packages, such as the Montgomery GI bill, or the Tilman scholar program or others. Each university had a Veterans Affairs liaison who determines which tuition source pays first according to federal law. So NROTC really doesn't get to decide much of anything. The unit gets an invoice, submits it for review, and the funds are disbursed.

Some people may not like that process, but to be candid, this is why universities listen when we call the registrar and ask them to take another look at accepting a Midshipmen.
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helpful to fully understand the process, thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
 
GWU PNS said:
Not sure if this will help or confuse things as to the interplay between NROTC units and their respective universities, but at GWU things flow basically as follows:

At the start of each semester, my supply technician sends a request for invoices to the bursar's office. The bursar looks up each student and prints out a specific invoice listing all tuition and fees. Our supply technician then validates those invoices and I sign off on a summarized list which is then submitted as a budget request up to the Naval Service Training Command. They do their own validation and auditing and then funds are disbursed to the university through EFT. The bursar credits each student account and we ask the students to verify their tuition reflects as paid.

If there are other scholarships for athletics or other reasons then it is incumbent on the university to determine how they allocate that. In some cases, they may send a reduced tuition bill to NROTC. But they usually take back their own funded scholarships to offer them to other students since they know the Navy is going to cover tuition fees.

There are times when there can be multiple military aid packages, such as the Montgomery GI bill, or the Tilman scholar program or others. Each university had a Veterans Affairs liaison who determines which tuition source pays first according to federal law. So NROTC really doesn't get to decide much of anything. The unit gets an invoice, submits it for review, and the funds are disbursed.

Some people may not like that process, but to be candid, this is why universities listen when we call the registrar and ask them to take another look at accepting a Midshipmen.
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GWU PNS:

Thanks for the insight in your messages. Have reviewed the ROD and the forms that I can read on the NSTC website. My question is how is recoupment calculated. Is it the sum of actual funds paid out:
-tuition and fees paid to the university, as noted in statements received from the Bursar's office.
-the amount paid in stipends (10 months per year)
-Active duty pay for summer cruises
-sum paid for books?

Or is it based on something else, such as how many semesters as a percentage of a $180K, four year contract?

Thank you in advance for your time.
 
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