How does foreign language selection work at USAFA?

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Hello everyone, I was wondering if it is possible to pick a specific foreign language to study at USAFA. I have heard from former and current intel officers that Russian and Chinese are always in demand in the Air Force and that knowing a strategic language could help me get an intel slot in the future. Are the foreign languages assigned to cadets randomly, assigned based on DLAB scores, or will we be allowed to pick one? Although I’m already fluent in one of the strategic lanugages, I think it would be nice to learn another language, but I’m not sure if I’ll have the chance to take Russian (If I get a bad DLAB score) because I didn’t do so well learning Spanish in high school. Thank you in advance to everyone who replies to my question!
 
Ok, very simple answer, you can study whatever language you want at the Academy. Languages at the Academy are minors, and therefore, provided you have the time in your schedule, and the class has space, you should be able to take the class. Granted I have limited knowledge, but from the Cadets I know there, not one has had issues with studying something they wanted to study.
 
Ok, very simple answer, you can study whatever language you want at the Academy. Languages at the Academy are minors, and therefore, provided you have the time in your schedule, and the class has space, you should be able to take the class. Granted I have limited knowledge, but from the Cadets I know there, not one has had issues with studying something they wanted to study.
Unless things have changed, this is somewhat inaccurate. Someone with more recent experience can correct me if the process has changed.

All cadets take 1 year of a foreign language - this might be an introductory year if it's a new language, or a year of more advanced classes if there is already a good baseline of understanding. Many cadets with significant foreign language experience choose to add a language minor, because it isn't a large number of additional classes. It is also possible to start from scratch and still add a language minor, but that depends on how many loaded up semesters you are willing/allowed to take (cadets take 4-8 classes/semester, with the vast majority taking 5 or 6 and special approval/programs needed for 4 or 8).

As for what language, again - unless it's different than it was around 12 years ago, USAFA uses your DLAB scores combined with your preferences and language experience to assign languages. I had a decent start on German from high school and wanted to continue, but because I got a high DLAB score, I was placed in Russian due to it's strategic importance. Others had similar experiences. I also believe there are minimum DLAB scores for certain languages based on their difficulty to learn. Russian is actually pretty easy - so I'd guess you have a decent shot at getting it since it is a strategic language.

So in short - the answer is it depends and in the end USAFA will probably stick you where they want you.
 
So in short - the answer is it depends and in the end USAFA will probably stick you where they want you.

That’s the best answer.

Son #1 had 5 years of Spanish and was in Spanish honor society in high school. He wanted to study something different at USAFA. However, they put him in Spanish there but he started in 300 level courses and got his minor in Spanish with very little effort.

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During our official visit in October the academic officer we met with told my DS that language placement is based on the DLAB scores. You may be given a choice between a few languages based on your aptitude and the needs of the Air Force.
 
DS wanted Spanish, had Spanish in high school, he was placed in Arabic. Did his year, got his B, and is language complete.
 
Do any of you think it would be wise to apply for Mandarin? I've been trying to self teach it since January and can understand some words and phrases. Would it be very hard for someone with absolutely no Mandarin knowledge to pass should they be assigned Mandarin. Since it's a tough language in general, would it be an almost guarantee to get placed in Mandarin, since most likely, very few others would apply for that language?
 
Do any of you think it would be wise to apply for Mandarin? I've been trying to self teach it since January and can understand some words and phrases. Would it be very hard for someone with absolutely no Mandarin knowledge to pass should they be assigned Mandarin. Since it's a tough language in general, would it be an almost guarantee to get placed in Mandarin, since most likely, very few others would apply for that language?
Every person is different. DS in Arabic found the speaking and listening part to not be terrible, the grammar was difficult, and this is from a boy who grunts English at best:) It is such an individual aptitude/teacher issue that there is no way to predict. I do know in Arabic there was unlimited EI.
 
Do any of you think it would be wise to apply for Mandarin? I've been trying to self teach it since January and can understand some words and phrases. Would it be very hard for someone with absolutely no Mandarin knowledge to pass should they be assigned Mandarin. Since it's a tough language in general, would it be an almost guarantee to get placed in Mandarin, since most likely, very few others would apply for that language?
I minored in Mandarin at USAFA with no prior experience. I had 2 yrs of HS spanish and would have preferred that, but as ASSIGNED Chinese by the academic registrar. Passing is not hard, but doing great is a challenge and not one that I was after. I passed but only barely. For me, getting the minor hurt my GPA but was a cool achievement.
 
Remember you can also test out of a language if you are fluent and then will not "have" to take a foreign language...unless you want to. DS tested out of Indonesian and then choose to take Chinese but quickly decided that was not for him and has not taken a language class again. You take the Defense Language Proficiency Test (DLPT) test towards the end of BCT and depending on your score will determine if you are required to take a foreign language.
 
Hello everyone, I was wondering if it is possible to pick a specific foreign language to study at USAFA. I have heard from former and current intel officers that Russian and Chinese are always in demand in the Air Force and that knowing a strategic language could help me get an intel slot in the future. Are the foreign languages assigned to cadets randomly, assigned based on DLAB scores, or will we be allowed to pick one? Although I’m already fluent in one of the strategic lanugages, I think it would be nice to learn another language, but I’m not sure if I’ll have the chance to take Russian (If I get a bad DLAB score) because I didn’t do so well learning Spanish in high school. Thank you in advance to everyone who replies to my question!
I'm former USAFA DFPS (Poli Sci) faculty and DFPS AIC (and a current college president--doesn't mean much, but appropriately returns to my discussion later, simply a cranium's-up), and former intel officer (SQ/DO, Dir. of Intel, Joint Staff, Congressional Staff, etc.). So, here is my 15-cents worth, but feel free to jettison this if it doesn't resonate with your concerns:

A strategic foreign language is a fantastic skill to have that, as an intel officer, you would almost surely never directly use. In intel, we have enlisted linguists who have great facility with their assigned language who do the tough work of translating what they hear and read. In terms of being an intel officer, having a modicum of working knowledge of a strategic language (Russian, Chinese...even Spanish, 10 years ago and further in the past, Arabic) will afford you cultural context. It is this context that will help you to understand what is important AND valued in a particular society/culture's politics, economy, arts, history, fears, and hopes. It gives you the ability to "read between the lines" of intel assessments, diplomatic cables, and official policy statements when evaluating them to determine a particular adversary or ally's stance, posture, and/or intended message. That said, will your Vectoring Team at AFPC notice if you have successfully completed courses in Mandarin on your transcript? Yes. Will it have an outsized influence on the career field you receive? Depends upon your major and--wait for it, I know it is everyone's favorite--needs of the Air Force. How does that play out in practical reality? If you are an engineering major or a chemistry, physics, OR, or mathematics major, do not expect them to vector you into intel unless you have a notably high GPA. In all likelihood you will become an engineer or scientist (assuming that you don't elect to attend UPT). If you do have a high GPA, then you stand a better chance of either being vectored directly to intel or being vectored to an engineering/scientific AFSC with a follow-on, career-broadening tour in intel, most likely at NASIC or one of the labs. That said, with a high GPA (and here comes the college president part) you would be well advised to pursue a grad school slot and/or one of the numerous named "fellowships" (East-West, Lawson, Nutter, Wolfe, etc....and if you are super-sharp, Rhodes) through USAFA and/or the AOG. Roughly 10% to 12% of each graduating class is afforded such an opportunity. Why would you want to do this? Dude, it is free and anywhere from 18 months (MA/MS) and three years (PhD) of not wearing a uniform (unless you attend NPS). Beyond that, and I can say this with some authority as my institution has close connections with numerous corporate and US Government partners, to advance very far in the corporate world or government, you will need at least an MA/MS. The world has simply become too complex to survive on the laurels of a BS alone, regardless of where you earned it. If you want to move into senior leadership (corporate officer, SES/SIS/SFS, and, increasingly, GO/FO), you will need a graduate education. And it will develop your cognitive and intellectual faculties, something desperately sought by all stripes of employers in an information-driven world. Where language will help in this regard is in preparing you to pass the graduate language exam required by nearly all of the stronger Social Science/Humanities/and some Science graduate degree programs. Consider taking a look at the bios of the corporate officers at some of the most prominent Fortune 100 companies (they are almost universally on their respective websites), you will notice something stands out: nearly all of them have a graduate degree, and many will have a terminal degree (MD, PhD, JD). Due to my role at the college, I talk with the CEO of the largest energy company on the west coast on a regular basis. She has pointed out to me the supreme importance of a graduate education as a component of any senior leader's development. Beyond all of this, and especially in intel, knowing more about the world around you, through whatever field of study you choose, will only make you a more effective thinker, decision-maker, and leader.

So, pursue a language if it interests you. However, I would not recommend sacrificing a high GPA for a skill that has less relative value in proportion to your GPA and where it can take you and your career.

Does this help or hinder?

Very respectfully,
 
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