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    USAFA Applications down 27.6%?

    'Qualified' is the term of art used by West Point admissions to identify candidates they deemed eligible - academically, medically, and physically--to attend. It does not indicate whether the candidate received a nomination or offer. 'we' is stylistic as sometimes there are guest contributors...
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    USAFA Applications down 27.6%?

    We're pleased to see this topic getting some attention! Thanks to you and AFrpaso for writing. We add a few comments: 1) The site and topics evolved past their original scope of validating empirical claims made in LTC Heffington's letter a few years ago. So yes, the data request and response...
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    What are my Chances

    here, take a look at this: https://www.gainserviceacademyadmission.com/west-point-admissions-calculator/ not my site, and i don't get anything from it. just an interesting quant tool.
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    Current Yearling at USMA, AMA - Female 2024

    If absolute nightmare, plus possibility of extrapolating that to 7 more years, why not leave for somewhere you'll thrive?
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    Federalist Article by Former Cadet

    "Because I follow a God who demands absolute truth, I cannot participate in something that has been built on a mountain of lies." would that the officer corps had such integrity. oh wait, "just following orders"
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    How much can being white hurt you in admissions?

    Saying that nothing can be done to improve is saying there are no performance measures for the Academy. What if they *can* improve yield? For Academics (~25% of separations), perhaps they stop admitting cadets with combined Math & Verbal SATs in the 800s? For motivation / "fit" problems (~40%...
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    How much can being white hurt you in admissions?

    Gauging the quality of a process by its outputs given its inputs is definitely worth the time. Recruiting and retention are critical focus areas for companies all over the world because they ultimately determine the success of the company. Perhaps they know something the Academy doesn't? The...
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    How much can being white hurt you in admissions?

    Thanks for the input. We've started doing an in-depth analysis of separation and trends which (hopefully) will be complete by end of the weekend and posted. In the meantime, what evidence would you accept as indicating that the admissions system *isn't* working as well as it could (or should)...
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    How much can being white hurt you in admissions?

    This is a contradiction. Why else would they have greater chance of appointment in the non-OML ranked categories? Tautology, as Admissions decides who is qualified and admitted. Since 20% of cadets don't graduate, there are clearly some mistakes (and how ought we distinguish mistakes from...
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    How much can being white hurt you in admissions?

    It is tough to square that with an 80% graduation rate, with the attrition coming mostly from low-test-scoring cadets. "If the Academy moved up recruiting standards so that it no longer admitted applicants with SATs below 1000, and therefore by correlation with GPAs below ~2.4, and therefore...
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    I was taking a look at the West Point class profile ......

    1) We were insufficiently user-friendly in earlier posts. Here is the class year data, and yes you can see who graduated and who didn't (and why they didn't): https://usmadata.com/2018/07/27/class-year-data/ 2) how many officers the Army needs is not relevant as it changes year to year and has...
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    I was taking a look at the West Point class profile ......

    80% graduation rates (class 2021) is "successful"? What would failure look like? What if the Academy could achieve 90% graduation rates with an unchanged program by changing their admissions approach and practices? Would that possibility be enough to question what they're doing? ("80% is needed...
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    How much can being white hurt you in admissions?

    ah nominating slates. No there is nothing in the files on the nominating source or order in the files. That would have been a helpful data point but alas, here we are. We do note, as JL123 did earlier, that a significant (on order of 20 or 25%) of additional appointee class nominations make the...
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    I was taking a look at the West Point class profile ......

    We did some research into this as well here: https://usmadata.com/2020/04/27/west-point-is-not-selective/ While the Ivies have to fill football and hockey teams, the disparity in class profile statistics is stark. at the risk of navel-gazing, we quote ourselves for the reader's convenience...
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    How much can being white hurt you in admissions?

    1) not necessary. we have a lot of data and can see patterns over time. any particular "slate" (perhaps this is usma-speak for admissions cycles or classes? Haven't heard it before, which is surprising if it's a standard admissions evaluation grouping) matters less than the large trends. 2)...
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    I was taking a look at the West Point class profile ......

    They don't. They're pushed through to graduation through relaxed standards. LTC Heffington noted this in his letter a few years back.
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    How much can being white hurt you in admissions?

    As mentioned, we started with looking at the actual applicant and admitted profiles. We looked at who USMA had the opportunity to admit and who actually ended up attending, year over year over year, and drew conclusions based on the mass quantitative data. We'd encourage reading the site. You're...
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    How much can being white hurt you in admissions?

    Fortunately, we don't have to rely on "I heard that" and anecdotes. We have class applicant and admitted profiles for 20 years of west point classes at usmadata.com. It's very evident that USMA places strong preferences on *certain* minority racial backgrounds. Since class slots are limited...
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    I was taking a look at the West Point class profile ......

    Pretty simple. The field-grades and generals responsible for admissions prioritize diversity and sports over Officer excellence. They just don't want you to think of it that way. Data: https://usmadata.com/2018/06/09/on-admissions-excellence/...
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    How much can being white hurt you in admissions?

    "My Grandfather's Son", amazing book. if the generals thought the way you do, we wouldn't even be having this discussion but they don't.
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