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  1. Classof83

    I wish him all the best. I hope that works given the bogus excuse for why he was medically...

    I wish him all the best. I hope that works given the bogus excuse for why he was medically separated. I do know that this avenue was usually taken by students who, for instance, failed a class or were separated for discipline problems but not for medical separations. Still, worth a try. I'm not...
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    The Chair (Congressman Womack) would have had to make that decision. I'll let you know if I hear...

    The Chair (Congressman Womack) would have had to make that decision. I'll let you know if I hear anything. Please do the same.
  3. Classof83

    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    Gratefuldad2023, I'm sorry to hear that about your son. The law firm we engaged was made up of former JAG officers but they did not specialize in ROTC/Service Academies. They engaged quickly with the senior legal officer at WP. They relayed to us that the command was "highly supportive" of...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    As explained above, i've made these recommendations: 1. Medical separation process be made more transparent, and 2. Medically separated cadets who would have had a service obligation receive an opportunity to serve outside the military. As we know, why decision were made in our cases were...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    As a high-ranking member of the USMA administration privately told my cadet, "I'm glad you fought back." As has been the case with every grad I've been in contact with, no one supports the separation without graduation of these senior cadets, apparently not even members of the command. With my...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    Yes, this a thread that began and continues to be about "INVOLUNTARY separation." These cadets want to continue to serve despite a potential medical disqualification. When my cadet used to report being told in formations that there were no longer going to be "golden handshakes" for medically...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    So you ask "What is an Articulation Agreement" and then state this would be a "major undertaking" and "totally unworkable IMO." Brilliant! Articulation agreements are an everyday tool in higher education and voluntary entered into by institutions. No one would "pick and choose." It's all...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    Capt MJ, nice and reasoned post. But as we know, what is prioritized is funded. As the top WP lawyer told my former JAG lawyer, "WP is just being a good steward of taxpayer money" when it expeditiously and without "due process (not my wording but the words used, off the record, of a currently...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    BOV makes recommendations to the President. I've made two main recommendations to the BOV: 1. Medical separation process be made more transparent, and 2. Medically separated cadets who would have had a service obligation receive an opportunity to serve outside the military. That the TAC...
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    Graduate but not Commission. Distraught and Lost.

    Thankful that USNA allowed you to graduate. My cadet was medically separated from USMA 10 weeks before graduation. The outpouring of support from USMA grads has been overwhelming. This followed a post on LinkedIn. They were very disappointed in USMA. My cadet had multiple job offers and...
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    Graduate but not Commission. Distraught and Lost.

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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    Again, very sorry to hear that. This Superintendent is very adamant on separating medically disqualified cadets. He uses the WP medical authorities to paint a very bleak picture of a cadet's condition and no amount of testimonials from civilian medical experts will be accepted. I've described...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    If your cadet is targeted for medical separation, you can expect, based upon the experience of my cadet and others, for things to happen very quickly if his case is referred to the Medical Examination Board/Physcial Examination Board (MEB/PEB) process. He will not be allowed to complete the...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    Charlene711, I am so, so sorry to hear this! Unfortunately, from our experience, I can believe what is happening to your cadet. When my cadet was first diagnosed, there appeared to be a schism in the medical authority with one siding with my cadet but another, higher ranking, fervently pushing...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    OldRetSWO, very good advice, but I worked the back channels hard at the beginning with people who are on a "text message basis" with the TOP decision makers. And, as mentioned in my opening post, the WP BOV already brought this to the USMA Superintendent's attention: "Disenrollment of seniors...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    Humey, It was USAFA that recently allowed a cadet with the same medical condition (by all accounts worse) as my cadet's to graduate and commission ("I have no idea what USAFA would have done with your son's issues but let's same they would have done the same."), and I agree, these programs...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    Parentalunit2, thanks, and great question! It is common for universities to have articulation agreements with each other for a wide-range of circumstances. If the practice of immediately separating (within days) medically disqualified senior cadets (some in the semester before graduation)...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    Humey, sorry about the delay in my reply. I think I remember hearing about the drastic reduction in AFROTC cadets invited to summer training. I'm definitely not in favor of the knee-jerk reaction and poor planning associated with drastic force changes that don't look beyond the current threat...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    Great advice, Herman_Snead. Yes, it has felt like pushing on a rope (or string). We were 80%/20% on trying to get a reinstatement vs moving forward now the score is1%/99% (with the 1% representing an appeal up the chain above WP). Probably a better chance of watercoolersnickering than someone...
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    Medical Separation: Deciding Between USMA and ROTC Scholarship - One Additional Consideration

    Nope. Nothing to do with vaccinations or COVID. As stated earlier, it was a sudden onset of a medical condition. There is an Army Regulation, AR150-1 which explicitly allows the USMA Superintendent to graduate medically disqualified seniors. In the past, it was usually done. Now, with this "no...
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