2nd Thoughts

You have a very high opinion of yourself (Ego if you will) that's fine. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt and give you some suggestions to think about. Instead of listening you just keep digging a bigger hole with posts like this one.

All I can do at this point is observe and recognize than 99% of people don't read, meditate, workout, eat on a nutritional pattern, push themselves socially.
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To be honest I can't even figure out what you're talking about.

Your also confusing Ego with Experience.

If you choose to attend WP one of two things will happen. They will either knock your attitude down a few notches or you'll quit. The choice is yours.
 
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Jcleppe said:
Jon,

Your an extremely lucky kid, had you tried to enlist you would have never been allowed because of your history of Depression and the fact you were prescribed Anti-Depressants. The fact that West Point decided to give you a waiver is a gift, one that only you can decide whether to accept.



It's posts like the one above that make people wonder if your choosing the right path.

You have a very high opinion of yourself (Ego if you will) that's fine. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt and give you some suggestions to think about. Instead of listening you just keep digging a bigger hole with posts like this one.



To be honest I can't even figure out what you're talking about.

Your also confusing Ego with Experience.

If you choose to attend WP one of two things will happen. They will either knock your attitude down a few notches or you'll quit. The choice is yours.
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You bring up my past medical history? You deserve to win this one:thumb:
 
Freda'sMom said:
You can also attend for two years and quit, without any obligation at all. You will get some leadership training & development during that time as well as rigorous academics that may benefit you in your 7-figure quest.

The rules allow it, so follow the rules. Go for 2 years and quit. It will benefit everyone involved: you, the future troops who may suffer under your less-than-gung-ho leadership, and the taxpayers who will only have to foot the bill for 2 years of your scholarship instead of 4.

And you will still be able to list "West Point" as a school you attended prior to transferring to some other lesser college.
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A lot of what has been said was taken out of context; It's fine- it's the interwebs after all. I don't want to attend for 2 years and quit-I don't think anyone benefits there. Thanks for your input.
 
Bluefalcoln said:
I am impressed with Positivity. Thanks for your honesty and transparency. I think you will be successful in whatever you choose to do. Do what you want to do and it is fine to have doubts. You earned this appointment and you can do with it what you like.
There has been great advice given to you from many people.
My advice is to go to West Point. See for yourself if it is what you want. If you decide that it is not for you, then leave and find what is for you. Many of my former classmates who left on their own, attended Ivy League schools. They would not have gotten in without a year or 2 at West Point.
Best of luck to you and I wish you all the success in the world.


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Appreciate your input.
 
With his first post, the OP realized that he could be slammed and for the most part, he has handled the criticisms well.
There is nothing wrong with having 2nd thoughts. Many CCs do.
The Forums are here to help folks so let's stop with the negative comments and offer only useful advise and wisdom.
 
buff81 said:
With his first post, the OP realized that he could be slammed and for the most part, he has handled the criticisms well.
There is nothing wrong with having 2nd thoughts. Many CCs do.
The Forums are here to help folks so let's stop with the negative comments and offer only useful advise and wisdom.
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Thank-you. Save a couple there has been a lot of great input and I am appreciative.
 
Can you leave a service and make money? Even at the ripe old age of 28? Yes. Is it easy? No, but then, it never is.

A 1996 CGA grad wrote a book called Street Freak. The book is about his battle with being bipolar and his time at Lehman Brothers (when Lehman crashed). Yes, when your firm crashes (and even when it doesn't.... if everyone else's does) brokers and traders get the boot.... but before that, I'm sure he was making a pretty penny.

Some interesting West Point alumni pop up in the Enron scandal too.

Service academy grads can be found all over the place, and some of them are making more than a million.

I'm interested though, given the feedback you've received... what are your thoughts now?
 
LineInTheSand said:
Can you leave a service and make money? Even at the ripe old age of 28? Yes. Is it easy? No, but then, it never is.

A 1996 CGA grad wrote a book called Street Freak. The book is about his battle with being bipolar and his time at Lehman Brothers (when Lehman crashed). Yes, when your firm crashes (and even when it doesn't.... if everyone else's does) brokers and traders get the boot.... but before that, I'm sure he was making a pretty penny.

Some interesting West Point alumni pop up in the Enron scandal too.

Service academy grads can be found all over the place, and some of them are making more than a million.

I'm interested though, given the feedback you've received... what are your thoughts now?
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Everyone's great input helped me to recognize what I am afraid of: missing out on "life." But, when I really think about that statement, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I look forward to my new adventure.
 
Positivity said:
Everyone's great input helped me to recognize what I am afraid of: missing out on "life." But, when I really think about that statement, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I look forward to my new adventure.
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YAY! Hope you have a great one! :thumb:
 
Positivity said:
Again, extremely appreciative of all your wisdom. I hope the tickets you are referring to are for football:thumb:
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These Tickets get you into games, but only coffee cups get thrown. TICKETS are security clearances, There need to be a reason to own them. Being a dollar a year employee of OSD checks that box.

Football games are too painful for us. My wifes Dad and Grand Dad where Navy grads and both Flag Officers. She has new found respect for Army now, but not in Football -;
 
Okay OP, I read the entire thread and can't help but just being so incredibly angry with you and I need to put you on blast.

I applied for the class of 2018 and have wanted to serve my entire life. I don't care about the pay, or the benefits, or the trials in my way. I just want to serve the nation.

It pisses me off that you're using USMA is a spring board to "make paper." That's not right. How selfish. I would've done anything in the world to be in your position. I'm going to VMI and doing ROTC there with the hope of being appointed next year. My hope is that you're not there.

I have plenty of enlisted friends and family in the service and it scares me that there might be officers and cadets like you who don't live for them.

Duty, honor, country. Not power and money. If this is just nervous jitters, great, that means you're alive, but if not, don't show up on R-Day. America's sons and daughters deserve the best of the best to lead them.


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nothingventurednothinggai said:
These Tickets get you into games, but only coffee cups get thrown. TICKETS are security clearances, There need to be a reason to own them. Being a dollar a year employee of OSD checks that box.

Football games are too painful for us. My wifes Dad and Grand Dad where Navy grads and both Flag Officers. She has new found respect for Army now, but not in Football -;
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Ahh, I see.
 
Jarhead1775 said:
Okay OP, I read the entire thread and can't help but just being so incredibly angry with you and I need to put you on blast.

I applied for the class of 2018 and have wanted to serve my entire life. I don't care about the pay, or the benefits, or the trials in my way. I just want to serve the nation.

It pisses me off that you're using USMA is a spring board to "make paper." That's not right. How selfish. I would've done anything in the world to be in your position. I'm going to VMI and doing ROTC there with the hope of being appointed next year. My hope is that you're not there.

I have plenty of enlisted friends and family in the service and it scares me that there might be officers and cadets like you who don't live for them.

Duty, honor, country. Not power and money. If this is just nervous jitters, great, that means you're alive, but if not, don't show up on R-Day. America's sons and daughters deserve the best of the best to lead them.


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Fair enough.
 
Jarhead1775 said:
Okay OP, I read the entire thread and can't help but just being so incredibly angry with you and I need to put you on blast.

I applied for the class of 2018 and have wanted to serve my entire life. I don't care about the pay, or the benefits, or the trials in my way. I just want to serve the nation.

It pisses me off that you're using USMA is a spring board to "make paper." That's not right. How selfish. I would've done anything in the world to be in your position. I'm going to VMI and doing ROTC there with the hope of being appointed next year. My hope is that you're not there.

I have plenty of enlisted friends and family in the service and it scares me that there might be officers and cadets like you who don't live for them.

Duty, honor, country. Not power and money. If this is just nervous jitters, great, that means you're alive, but if not, don't show up on R-Day. America's sons and daughters deserve the best of the best to lead them.
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Thank you for saying pretty much exactly what was on my mind, except I'm in the position of parent to a cadet at a different senior military college.

This thread had been making me feel somewhat stupid that for all these years I have modeled a worldview for my sons that demonstrates the ideal that service to others is what brings happiness and fulfillment.

DS feels exactly the way you do, Jarhead, and even with no scholarship, he is willing to take out college loans in his quest to earn a commission and make an attempt at repaying those who sacrificed for his freedom.

But the world is filled with all different kinds of people, with different worldviews, different talents, different skills. Perhaps OP will use his "paper" affinities for the ultimate benefit of any soldiers in his care.
 
payitforward said:
Thank you for saying pretty much exactly what was on my mind, except I'm in the position of parent to a cadet at a different senior military college.

This thread had been making me feel somewhat stupid that for all these years I have modeled a worldview for my sons that demonstrates the ideal that service to others is what brings happiness and fulfillment.

DS feels exactly the way you do, Jarhead, and even with no scholarship, he is willing to take out college loans in his quest to earn a commission and make an attempt at repaying those who sacrificed for his freedom.

But the world is filled with all different kinds of people, with different worldviews, different talents, different skills. Perhaps OP will use his "paper" affinities for the ultimate benefit of any soldiers in his care.
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Don't feel stupid.
 
Jarhead1775 said:
Okay OP, I read the entire thread and can't help but just being so incredibly angry with you and I need to put you on blast.

I applied for the class of 2018 and have wanted to serve my entire life. I don't care about the pay, or the benefits, or the trials in my way. I just want to serve the nation.

It pisses me off that you're using USMA is a spring board to "make paper." That's not right. How selfish. I would've done anything in the world to be in your position. I'm going to VMI and doing ROTC there with the hope of being appointed next year. My hope is that you're not there.

I have plenty of enlisted friends and family in the service and it scares me that there might be officers and cadets like you who don't live for them.

Duty, honor, country. Not power and money. If this is just nervous jitters, great, that means you're alive, but if not, don't show up on R-Day. America's sons and daughters deserve the best of the best to lead them.


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Don't be so judgmental as words are cheap but actions are not. I don't question when candidates tell me that they are 100% dedicated and committed to West Point. There are some luck involved in getting an appointment, but in most cases one's accomplishments results in an appointment. We can't measure someone's heart. West Point is not the only way to serve, so by attending VMI with ROTC, will allow you to serve also.
 
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