Access to Plebe at Football Games
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Can you still go to it? I vaguely recall that being shut down for us thanks to some hijinks (5000k-6000k), but things change all the time
I am with the recent grads on this one. Plebes, at least as far as they are concerned, have just had a very stressful week. The last thing many of them probably want to do is get in uniform and escort anyone around the Yard. This is the only time they get to relax and there is always studying to catch up on.
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O Club is a nice diversion for a Sunday brunch and for Plebes, you get a decent meal on a Sunday. My family went last April for Easter Brunch and it was very nice. Lots of Mid families, especially Plebes' were there. Personally, I very much enjoy going when my parents are up for a weekend. One of the nice things is your are not leaving the yard (for youngster and above) so it is a relatively quick and easy visit, especially if you have studying to do. Yes, some of us upper class do actually still study on Sunday afternoons. I certainly do not mind putting on the Uniform in exchange for a decent meal.
For those of you trash talking the parents who come and visit, I personally think you need to check it and please do not speak for "most, many and a lot" of mids or for that matter parents. First, when you speak of many or most plebes (or mids) - lets be realistic you only really know only about a third of your class, so at best that puts it at maybe 10% of the brigade. Not a very large sample at all so best not imply that it is collective.
That being said I will only speak for myself. I like having my parents come visit. They typically come twice in the fall and once in the spring, plus at the end of finals to move stuff to storage etc. They are respectful of my time and I am not afraid to tell them that I have this and that going on so will not be able to spend as much time as maybe we both would like. My parents are not sick of paying for meals nor am I sick of seeing them. Personally, if you will, that attitude disgusts me. So I guess we are all disgusted at things on the yard. (Also for reference Phillips is closed)
I certainly do not need to sever all ties to my parents to "toughen me up." Nor do I think that visiting parents some how make you less ready for the real world. My parents are quite successful in the real world - my grandparents typically came to visit a few times a year and we went there maybe once a year due to job restrictions (like when living over seas) By your analogy, my parents should not have been ready for the "real world" given that their parents "stalked them." (My grandparents still have season tickets to my parents alma mater as they did the entire time my parents were enrolled there and long before that) My parents realize that I will not get home much after commissioning, so I will welcome them when they are able to visit me. Speaking for my circle of friends - I believe most have that same expectation.
Just because a parent comes to visit by no means is an indication that the cord is still tied! Just because a parent has season football ticket by no means makes them mid stalkers. As far as upperclass going home for a visit if it is close - how is that any different than hanging out at a sponsor parent house - i.e. surrogate parent if you will? So for a blood relative it is looked upon as hovering, but perfectly acceptable for sponsors? Given that some of you think that adult contact is bad - then I suggest the sponsor program get trashed and we all have to hang in the hall 24/7. That certainly would make us ready for the real world - if you define ready as can't wait to get the he** out of here.
As long as your Plebe or Mid is accepting of your visit, then go with it and don't let anyone on here tell you otherwise. Just my two cents....
For those of you trash talking the parents who come and visit, I personally think you need to check it and please do not speak for "most, many and a lot" of mids or for that matter parents. First, when you speak of many or most plebes (or mids) - lets be realistic you only really know only about a third of your class, so at best that puts it at maybe 10% of the brigade. Not a very large sample at all so best not imply that it is collective.
That being said I will only speak for myself. I like having my parents come visit. They typically come twice in the fall and once in the spring, plus at the end of finals to move stuff to storage etc. They are respectful of my time and I am not afraid to tell them that I have this and that going on so will not be able to spend as much time as maybe we both would like. My parents are not sick of paying for meals nor am I sick of seeing them. Personally, if you will, that attitude disgusts me. So I guess we are all disgusted at things on the yard. (Also for reference Phillips is closed)
I certainly do not need to sever all ties to my parents to "toughen me up." Nor do I think that visiting parents some how make you less ready for the real world. My parents are quite successful in the real world - my grandparents typically came to visit a few times a year and we went there maybe once a year due to job restrictions (like when living over seas) By your analogy, my parents should not have been ready for the "real world" given that their parents "stalked them." (My grandparents still have season tickets to my parents alma mater as they did the entire time my parents were enrolled there and long before that) My parents realize that I will not get home much after commissioning, so I will welcome them when they are able to visit me. Speaking for my circle of friends - I believe most have that same expectation.
Just because a parent comes to visit by no means is an indication that the cord is still tied! Just because a parent has season football ticket by no means makes them mid stalkers. As far as upperclass going home for a visit if it is close - how is that any different than hanging out at a sponsor parent house - i.e. surrogate parent if you will? So for a blood relative it is looked upon as hovering, but perfectly acceptable for sponsors? Given that some of you think that adult contact is bad - then I suggest the sponsor program get trashed and we all have to hang in the hall 24/7. That certainly would make us ready for the real world - if you define ready as can't wait to get the he** out of here.
As long as your Plebe or Mid is accepting of your visit, then go with it and don't let anyone on here tell you otherwise. Just my two cents....
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For the record, I thought the same of people who went to their sponsor's every weekend for four years. And I don't have opposition to someone going home "for a visit" or parents coming once or twice a year. Talking about people who went to their house every single weekend, and people whose parents I knew as well as the mid.
Trying to figure out every spare minute the plebe will have off on a football weekend is just going to stress them out. Pick a date to visit, tell your mid, and then go with the flow on when and where they can be. After SMT, they may just want to relax before the football game.
Trying to figure out every spare minute the plebe will have off on a football weekend is just going to stress them out. Pick a date to visit, tell your mid, and then go with the flow on when and where they can be. After SMT, they may just want to relax before the football game.
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From the sponsor viewpoint, a healthy pattern seems to be regular visits during plebe year for R&R, less often youngster year as they get out and about with mids with cars. We become the "default" setting 2/C and 1/C year for Sunday afternoon laundry and catching up over the occasional meal when more exciting plans don't pop up. We enjoy seeing them get involved in extra curricular activities, go exploring, have lovelives and get out and about the world. We worry about the ones who are "hall rats" or who never seem to have friends to go out with.
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Dear Current Mid,
Thank you for your post. I plan on leaving all of this up to my Mid. I have told him in no uncertain terms: I will never tell you that you have to come home, I will never tell you that you cannot come home. Please, just let me know which it is you want to do from week to week, month to month, year to year, etc"
Thank you for your post. I plan on leaving all of this up to my Mid. I have told him in no uncertain terms: I will never tell you that you have to come home, I will never tell you that you cannot come home. Please, just let me know which it is you want to do from week to week, month to month, year to year, etc"
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Let me guess - your son/daughter is not a football player.
From a practical point of view, how could any school (even a service academy) require mandatory attendance at every sporting event?
Usually, the Plebes are required to attend a sport in the Yard every weekend. A home football game satisfies that requirement. But during away football games, the Plebes have to find something to attend.