Admissions board happenings

Discussion in 'Naval Academy - USNA' started by Littledebbie246, Oct 13, 2017.

  1. Littledebbie246

    Littledebbie246 Member

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    What happens after I send my application off to the admissions board? I thought my bgo was the one who presented my file to the board but today I found out it wasn’t him. Who is it if it isn’t my bgo?
     
  2. Ex.BT.USN

    Ex.BT.USN 5-Year Member

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    All is okay. The BGO does not present the application; your application is in the hands of your regional contact. As in my DD's case she has an LT that ran the oversight on her application before presenting it to the board.

    My DD finished her application at the end of July and requested through her LT to hold it back until she does her fitness test again. The LT said it would be fine and it would not hurt her chances if she was to wait.

    So... if you just submitted your application give them time to review. If they feel the application is board ready it will go. There are some checks and balances in place for the candidates and the academy. They need to make certain that the candidates get their best chance and so that the academy gets their best candidate. A two way street if you will with lots of levels.
     
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  3. Old Navy BGO

    Old Navy BGO 5-Year Member

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    BT is corrected..the application is briefed by one of the Regional Admissions counselors, similar to the way Officer files are briefed by selection boards. The Admissions Board simply votes up or down on qualification for Admission (i.e qualified or not). That is one of the Q's in 3Q (CFA and Medical being the others), Once determined 3Q, another part of the Admissions office works to assign qualified candidates to available nominations. A couple things to remember:

    1) The candidate will not know when the Admissions Board has reviewed his/her application. The BGO can tell by changes in status, but is not supposed to be telling a Candidate. The Admissions Board review is not necessarily within weeks of submission.

    2) 3Q and a "nomination" is not necessarily an appointment. It is important to know and understand what type of nomination you have. Many (most ?) MOC use a competitive nomination process , nominating up to 10 candidates for each available position, and letting Admissions decide whom among the qualified candidates gets the Appointment. (There are several variations --some MOC rank their candidates). IMO, this is really the biggest funnel - a head to head competition for available positions, usually withing your MOC slate. That is why it is so important to apply for every nomination source you qualify for --this gives Admissions more options in finding a spot for you.

    3) In my experience --watching the process for over 15 years, the selection among the MOC slate is probably the biggest factor in timing of Appointments. Keep in mind that Admissions cannot make the decision until they have the application of all candidates. If you get your application in early, Admissions still needs to wait until the application of the candidate who completed his application in January tis reviewed before making the decision. (This is not intended to discourage getting your application in early -- the final decision on whom to award the Appointment may turn on intangibles such as interest and motivation).

    Bottom line, be patient ..there is a well established process and it takes time... once your application is submitted, don't expect to hear anything until late March/early April. If you hear something earlier, that's great, but until you see a TWE you are still in the competition.
     
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  4. usnabgo08

    usnabgo08 USNA 2008/BGO 10-Year Member

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    For clarification...the Admissions counselors review records for completeness, but, typically, do not brief the records. Each Admissions Board member receives a certain amount of records (once released by the regional Admissions team), which is then briefed (weekly) to the entire board and voted on.
     
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  5. gala10

    gala10 USNA Class of 2022 Mom

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    My son and I are getting very anxious about his application status and wondering what is going on. He is checking his email every hour for the past couple of months. Last document was submitted July 08, nomination received July 19 for "children of deceased or disabled veterans." CFA was taken at NASS with very competitive results. Medical was cleared on Sep 26. His SAT is good (760 math and 700 englishl), GPA 3.65 unweighted with AP and honors classes. Lettered in 3 sports his junior year, football, wrestling and track. Member of the symphonic and jazz bands. Wrestling captain last year and will be this year as well. Just wonder why we had to rush so much to submit all the documents and it has been over 3 months now since all the documents were submitted, but medical. Is it ok to contact the admission consular, and if yes, what to ask? please give us some words of wisdom. Thanks!
     
  6. Dadx4

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    Gala, hang in there, all of our kids are in that same situation with similar stats. Don't expect to hear anything until March. If sooner, then great! Good luck to your son. Tell him to enjoy senior year!
     
  7. Dadof2

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    First thing I can think of is that DS should stop checking his email every hour. He should be prepared to wait until the very last day in mid-April. I know that is not what he (or you) wants to hear, but it happens. If you end up hearing something sooner, great! This advice is coming from a parent of a son who was turned down the last possible day in mid-April a couple of years ago.

    I wish the best for your DS, but remember that lots of very qualified candidates don't get in every year. It's not that they aren't great or wouldn't be successful there if given the opportunity. While waiting to hear he should try to enjoy his senior year and work on backup plans. Also, there are other paths to becoming an officer. Is he looking at ROTC?

    It can be a stressful ride, but hang in there and good luck to your DS.
     
  8. Old Navy BGO

    Old Navy BGO 5-Year Member

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    You didn't have to rush to submit...applications aren't due until end of January. Be patient
    (That applies to all -- I know its stressful, but really no different than admissions to other colleges)
     
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    time2 10-Year Member

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    ^^ I agree. The criteria to become 3Q is the same regardless of whether you are the first (or last) to apply. While there are others types of NOM's that some will be eligible for, those applying for a NOM from a MOC will generally be in the Q4 timeframe.

    USNA no longer routinely tells candidates if they are 3Q, so it is also a good idea to continue to pursue your Plan B option as well.
     
  10. gala10

    gala10 USNA Class of 2022 Mom

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    Thank you all for your answers. My son is enjoying his senior year and having fun, but it doesn't stop him from checking his email frequently. :) He plans to re-apply if it wont happened this time. And yes, the application is open until January, but it says it's a rolling admission and encourage to apply early, so we did as early as we could, but i guess it doesn't matter much. Wanted to share our experience to see if someone feels the same.
     
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  11. Trigger

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    I have to agree with old Navy BGO on this. They way I understand it from a classmate who is a Regional BGO coordinator and has several former USNA admissions staff as BGOs in his area, a junior officer in admissions - I assume this to be an admissions counselor, otherwise who? - briefs the candidate's record to the admissions board just like in a selection board in the fleet.