Advice on Rounding Out my Application

mr.joey

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Hello, I am a junior in high school and am currently applying to the Naval Academy. I would greatly appreciate some suggestions for rounding out my application, and insight on what needs to be worked on.

For academics, I am currently taking Dual Enrollment courses at a state four-year university, and in the past semester I have earned A's in History to 1500, Micro Econ, Chem Lab, and a Study Skills class I took for personal benefit, as well as an A- in Chem 1. In previous years, I was able to take courses equivalent to Calc 1 (B+), Calc 2 (A-), Differential EQs (A-), Linear Algebra (A), and two semesters of Multivariable Calc and Related Topics (A, A) through the same university. Please note that I said "equivalent to" just because the program I was in gave the classes different names, and the topics in each semester weren't cleanly separated by topic. For classes at my high school, I have received all A's, although my high school isn't competitive by any means. It's a basic public school, and due to the limited amount of advanced classes available to underclassmen, the only advanced course I took was the first year of IB Bio SL. I have taken the ACT, and I got a composite 34 (30 math, 35 sci, 34 eng, 35 read, 7 writ). I plan to take the SAT primarily focused on math for a good super score, as I did better on the math PSAT (750), although this could just be because of the easier content. The writing score also isn't great, but as I understand it a low score is not a detractor from an application.

For athletics, I have participated in three years of varsity cross country, as well as two years of wrestling. I did often wrestle in varsity duals and tournaments, but I never received a letter. I am not wrestling this year, and I intend to join track this spring. I'm not exceptional in cc by any means, as I placed in the top 20 of my section meet, but did not qualify for state. I just missed the all-city title, which would have been nice, but I'll have to get it next year. I also rowed last summer for a club.

For leadership, my most solid position is as co-captain of the cc team. This has been a great and meaningful position for me, but I'm worried that it may be seen as less valuable given the individual nature of the sport. Otherwise, I have been a teaching assistant in a culinary class for a semester. I also worked as a lifeguard last summer, which certainly required teamwork, but I'm not sure it shows much leadership, as I was not a supervisor of of other lifeguards. I will apply to boys state, but it is quite selective, so I can't count on it.

In conclusion, if anyone could provide constructive criticism, I would be very grateful. I understand that because of the importance of essays and interviews, a "rate my chances" isn't really possible. However, as the application season gets here, I just want to make sure that I've done everything I can, and I hope that others might be able to see any glaring issues in my application that I've missed. Thank you!
 
You look like a strong candidate, and I wish you all the very best in applying, I'm just a mom along for the ride on the class of '29 application cycle but may I suggest the following which is more planning type advice that my daughter would consider musts if she needs to apply again (hopefully not 🤞):

1) Fully develop relationships with your Math, English, and Science teachers so they know you well and your goal to attend USNA....let me add your coach and/or guidance counselor as well. Talk with them about the upcoming letters of recommendation (LOR) needed for your application, how important it is to you and get in their queue early so this part of the application is done before your JR year if possible. Understand how the LOR process works with the USNA application and talk with them about it so they know what's coming if they have not done SA LOR's before.
2) Once the application opens if you fill-out all the bits of info, a lot is very basic, and get the LOR's kicked off this will increase your %complete and put you in line early for your Blue & Gold Interview and your DOD physical. You want to see a 70-80% application complete by end of July so that you just add your essays and a few follow-ups and submit to get into the first reviews of the USNA Admissions in early September.
3) Write your essays, have folks who know you read them, and you come back to them after a month and re-read them - it helps so that the essay/question response can round you out for the application committee to see more of you than just your LOR's, Grades & Stats.
All the very best to you and GO NAVY!
 
I wouldn't worry about the co-captaincy of XC being an issue. The lion's share of my own leadership experience and development came from that, as a senior this year. Also, you're a junior, a lot of leadership comes around in senior year if you know where to look. Make sure to apply to the summer seminar (due by March 31). I personally applied to all three (USMA, USAFA, USNA) because they all look good on an application.
 
The service academies (SA) are looking at a "whole person" candidate score. A way to break that down is: Scholar, Athlete, Leader. (Not necessarily in order of importance, but you seem to be aware as you've laid it out in your initial post). You scholarship looks great and fantastic ACT score! Your athletics looks decent with your XC, wrestling and upcoming track experience. Nice that you were co-captain of your XC team also. I would definitely include your leadership that you listed above and do your best to be selected for Boys/Girls State. This is looked very favorably by SA as well as Eagle Scout.

I would definitely begin your practice tests for the CFA to see where you stand now and train hard and get that knocked out early in the process. Then follow @GoatBoat5 advice on letting the required teachers/principals know your goals so they will be aware of your upcoming request for LOR. I would also get a head start and look at the nomination process for your Members of Congress (MOC). It should be listed on their website of when their portals/applications will open and what will be required (typically more essays and LOR). If your MOC has a SA information day, you may take advantage of attending that to talk to reps from the SA as well as meet the MOC staff in-person that you will be working with to try and get their nomination.

Also, be sure and check about the Summer Seminar leadership and apply to go to that for USNA (and/or other SA you may be interested in).

You are doing great by getting a head start in the process. As a parent that just watched his son go through the process successfully, it can seem very daunting and stressful. But as they say, the way you eat an elephant is a bite at a time. Keep plugging away and working towards the goal and have backup plans as well. Good luck and as you will see, there will be a lot of supportive folks on this forum to help give you guidance and answer questions as they arise.
 
Thank you all for your help! I appreciate the support and advice.
You look like a strong candidate, and I wish you all the very best in applying, I'm just a mom along for the ride on the class of '29 application cycle but may I suggest the following which is more planning type advice that my daughter would consider musts if she needs to apply again (hopefully not 🤞):

1) Fully develop relationships with your Math, English, and Science teachers so they know you well and your goal to attend USNA....let me add your coach and/or guidance counselor as well. Talk with them about the upcoming letters of recommendation (LOR) needed for your application, how important it is to you and get in their queue early so this part of the application is done before your JR year if possible. Understand how the LOR process works with the USNA application and talk with them about it so they know what's coming if they have not done SA LOR's before.
2) Once the application opens if you fill-out all the bits of info, a lot is very basic, and get the LOR's kicked off this will increase your %complete and put you in line early for your Blue & Gold Interview and your DOD physical. You want to see a 70-80% application complete by end of July so that you just add your essays and a few follow-ups and submit to get into the first reviews of the USNA Admissions in early September.
3) Write your essays, have folks who know you read them, and you come back to them after a month and re-read them - it helps so that the essay/question response can round you out for the application committee to see more of you than just your LOR's, Grades & Stats.
All the very best to you and GO NAVY!
Thanks for bringing my attention to the letters of recommendation, the thought hadn't crossed my mind. I've heard that the requirements are for a math teacher, english teacher, and coach to write a LOR. Has this been changed to be more flexible?
I wouldn't worry about the co-captaincy of XC being an issue. The lion's share of my own leadership experience and development came from that, as a senior this year. Also, you're a junior, a lot of leadership comes around in senior year if you know where to look. Make sure to apply to the summer seminar (due by March 31). I personally applied to all three (USMA, USAFA, USNA) because they all look good on an application.
Thanks, that's reassuring. I've almost finished my NASS application, but there are some details I need to work out with my counselor on Dual Enrollment stuff. I'll probably apply to the others as well. Good luck on your application!
The service academies (SA) are looking at a "whole person" candidate score. A way to break that down is: Scholar, Athlete, Leader. (Not necessarily in order of importance, but you seem to be aware as you've laid it out in your initial post). You scholarship looks great and fantastic ACT score! Your athletics looks decent with your XC, wrestling and upcoming track experience. Nice that you were co-captain of your XC team also. I would definitely include your leadership that you listed above and do your best to be selected for Boys/Girls State. This is looked very favorably by SA as well as Eagle Scout.

I would definitely begin your practice tests for the CFA to see where you stand now and train hard and get that knocked out early in the process. Then follow @GoatBoat5 advice on letting the required teachers/principals know your goals so they will be aware of your upcoming request for LOR. I would also get a head start and look at the nomination process for your Members of Congress (MOC). It should be listed on their website of when their portals/applications will open and what will be required (typically more essays and LOR). If your MOC has a SA information day, you may take advantage of attending that to talk to reps from the SA as well as meet the MOC staff in-person that you will be working with to try and get their nomination.

Also, be sure and check about the Summer Seminar leadership and apply to go to that for USNA (and/or other SA you may be interested in).

You are doing great by getting a head start in the process. As a parent that just watched his son go through the process successfully, it can seem very daunting and stressful. But as they say, the way you eat an elephant is a bite at a time. Keep plugging away and working towards the goal and have backup plans as well. Good luck and as you will see, there will be a lot of supportive folks on this forum to help give you guidance and answer questions as they arise.
It's awesome that your son got in, congratulations! Thanks for the support.
 
@mr.joey

For USNA (and I think it is similar at other SAs), there are specific course teacher required evaluations. They are not what you would think of us as the typical letters of recommendation.

You will be asked for contact information for specific course teachers. The teachers will be emailed a link to open and complete survey type questions, with a small area for free-form comments. They will complete the form online and submit. You will not see it. See link below for general guidance.

You will want to explain to your teacher what to expect, perhaps provide a brief resume and ask them if they have any questions about USNA, etc. If you can get these done in late spring or over the summer, you will be ahead of the game. You will want to follow up with them politely, express appreciation, etc.

** Keep in mind teachers may or may not check school email over the summer or the school system may reject or send to spam emails from unknown senders with embedded links. **

Optional letters of recommendation. These are stand-alone letters, just as what you think they would be. Be strategic. Think about who knows you well and can specifically comment on what they have directly observed of your character, work ethic, integrity, desire to serve, etc. this could be a coach, Scout leader, spiritual adviser, work boss, volunteer coordinator. You do not need to find a VIP, retired admiral, etc., unless they know you well and can specifically comment. Admissions wants to hear from people who have observed or interacted with you on a regular basis.

If you haven’t yet read every page, link and drop-down menu item on USNA.edu, your primary source, I recommend it.



And welcome new member since Tuesday!
 
@mr.joey

I created a separate post for this topic, nomination applications, because the process runs concurrently with your USNA application process. That is all the requirements for your nomination applications.

On their websites, the SAs encourage candidates to apply for all nominations for which they are eligible. That is a minimum of 3 MOC and the VP, plus any service-related noms. Each MOC can run their process as they wish: submission deadlines, application format, required info, essays, LORs, interview/no interview, evaluation and selection criteria, etc. That means each application will likely look different from the others. You can go now to the pages on the MOC websites and start that research. Get on their mailing list of SA applicants, if they have one. See if they have any “service academy info sessions” coming up. Note any upcoming dates such as when their applications open for Class of 2030.
 
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@Capt MJ

This is great information, thank you. I will do my best to knock out the LORs early, and I also definitely need to look at the admissions page more closely. Unfortunately, my local MOC don't do SA days very often, but I'll keep my eye out. Thanks for the welcome!
 
Unfortunately, my local MOC don't do SA days very often
Not sure what you're expecting but I've seen very few who have more than one per year.
I will add that my (USNA grad) MOC actually had two in 2024 but that was an outlier from past practice
and surrounding districts plus the Senators all have one per year.
 
@OldRetSWO

Thanks for the context! I wasn't sure if I was just looking in the wrong places, as I couldn't find any record of my senators or nearby district representatives having one of these days in the past few years. I'll check the USNA website periodically to see if there's an event in my area in the future.
 
@OldRetSWO

Thanks for the context! I wasn't sure if I was just looking in the wrong places, as I couldn't find any record of my senators or nearby district representatives having one of these days in the past few years. I'll check the USNA website periodically to see if there's an event in my area in the future.
TALK (not email or text) with staffers for your Congressperson and both Senators to ask if they hold events.

FYSA (for your situational awareness), in my state, the BGO organization works with local NROTC folks to put on a joint USNA/NROTC event once per year. This is in additional to MOC and Senatorial events. This past year, I worked the registration desk and many of the attendees were from surrounding states.
 
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