AFROTC 2012 EA Results

Sounds pretty logical to me. I know at least at our detachment, there's really no competition (at least visibly) for the PSP nominations. The competition, as you mentioned, is with the rack and stack, and that had to be the most stressful couple semesters I've ever experienced!

Not to mention the fact that at the beginning of my C200 year, I was probably at the bottom of the bottom third, and I've had to work HARD to climb my way up. Hopefully, though, it all pays off in the end, and no matter what, I feel like I've given it all I've got. That's what matters in the end, really :)
 
Got some promising news from our det/CC today: Looks like there were only ~2600 nominated, and a total of over 2400 slots given! We don't know the specifics yet, but this is very good news for all of us waiting, as he let us know the selection rate at those numbers is almost 93%!

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Just a quick edit, although he got the statistics, he made it clear he hadn't gotten the actual names quite yet, so don't go thinking your cadre knows already! He let us know they're expecting it by midday tomorrow..

Good luck!

If that is true, that is great news to hear! I remember a thread a few weeks ago stating that FTP cadets wanting to compete compared to last year is down significantly, perhaps this is the end result. But 1400 less competing sounds like a huge number!
 
Powers45, in addition to C200s dropping, there was also a big issue across the nation with C200s not being able to compete, because HQ put in a stipulation that cadets must have a completed DoDMERB to meet the board. We lost two cadets in our det because of that, and I'd imagine it affected others as well.
 
Powers45, in addition to C200s dropping, there was also a big issue across the nation with C200s not being able to compete, because HQ put in a stipulation that cadets must have a completed DoDMERB to meet the board. We lost two cadets in our det because of that, and I'd imagine it affected others as well.

One would have thought that the word would have gone out on the DoDMERB requirement in time for folks to complete it. Did those guys just not drive the process, or required waivers? Or is it not clear?
 
Maybe this is the new directive to the CC at AFROTC dets.

Scholarships were always the rarity, and now more so.

It could be that the CC's are "weeding out" by stating you are bottom 50%. 55% LY were selected for SFT.

This goes back to the ALL IN comment. If in Dec. before winter break you are told by the CC you are the bottom 50%, what is your motivation to return for spring, knowing 55% were selected LY.

Why get up at O'dark thirty for PT as a non-scholarship cadet? Shine shoes? Go through inspection, attend LLAB?

Only reason why is you are ALL IN!

The selection rate maybe 93% this yr., but I believe it is equally important that for posters and lurkers we acknowledge the real stats from C100 to SFT selection.

93% gives an illusion that if you keep your nose clean, you will go. That idea will mean for 16 they will be facing the 55% rate because the pool will be large again. They will stick it out because 14 had a 93% rate, when in reality the pool was smaller from cadets dropping out.

AF AD does long term strategic planning. They know how many officers they need for each yr group. 14 was the 1st group hit hard regarding scholarships, 13 had more scholarships, probably too many from AFAD perspective and so they nailed them.

The thing you do not realize is that CC's are briefed by AFROTC HQ, they have a security clearance, cadets don't. They know the long term strategic personnel plan. They are following out directives.

The military is a business. They have a limited budget with limited amount for management, that is reality. They will follow whatever HQ tells them.
 
Powers45, in addition to C200s dropping, there was also a big issue across the nation with C200s not being able to compete, because HQ put in a stipulation that cadets must have a completed DoDMERB to meet the board. We lost two cadets in our det because of that, and I'd imagine it affected others as well.

Wow, did they tell these cadets that they would not be able to compete if they did not have a DoDMERB? That seems like a low blow if not...then again if they didn't have it done they could not participate in PT/LLAB (atleast that is how it is done at my Det/sports physical only valid few weeks).
 
If I remember correctly, at my det we were notified probably with about a month left to get everything in. Some people had issues, but I think overall, if we were being proactive, we had enough time to get it all together. I did find it a little pressing though that we had the req placed upon us at the last minute, but like you said, it's something we should already have done anyway.
 
kinnem,

I thought the DODMERB issue was interesting too, however, things change yr to yr., and I left that alone.

When DS got his SFT slot in 10, we had @ 2 weeks to get his medical records up to date, shots, traditional annual physical. Key here is it was after selection, they may now require it prior.

Additionally, as I have stated many times, cadets that applied for an SA, most likely had their DoDMERB done in July, but AFROTC allows scholarship recipients to convert from 4 to 3 yr. The DoDMERB would not be valid since it is past the 2 yr marker placing them in jeopardy.


JMPO, from a parent, if that is the case, than the det. failed the cadet. This should have been addressed back in Sept when they showed up as 200's, giving every cadet time to get it done.

If the cadet didn't get it done, knowing this was an issue, it goes back to the ALL IN perspective.

Cadets need to know that the only one that gives 100% rats arse about your career is YOU. If you don't care enough to be pro-active regarding your career, nobody else will!

They don't ask AD members up for promotion to review their file for grins and giggles. They do it so you can correct any and every issue that is in YOUR file.
 
curiosity bpenguin

Is your CC new or has he been there for yrs?
 
Our CC is a colonel retiring at the end of the summer. He's been at the det for quite awhile now, since 2009
 
Got some promising news from our det/CC today: Looks like there were only ~2600 nominated, and a total of over 2400 slots given! We don't know the specifics yet, but this is very good news for all of us waiting, as he let us know the selection rate at those numbers is almost 93%!

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Just a quick edit, although he got the statistics, he made it clear he hadn't gotten the actual names quite yet, so don't go thinking your cadre knows already! He let us know they're expecting it by midday tomorrow..

Good luck!

When I asked my APAS a few weeks ago what he expected the selection rate to be he said he could see 80%, which astonished all of us in. Since then I've heard rumors up to 90%, which is awesome if true.

The thing to keep in mind though, as Pima has brought up before, is the difference in the number of cadets between 100 and 200 years. We (at ERAU) started with over 200 - we went into FTP with 41 (including 500s) and are down to 39. The two we lost were for medical.

At this point last year I was worried because the last class got killed in PSP, but seeing that we've only got the best left, it's no surprise if the rate is close to 90%, with GPA being the main factor at this point.

As to DoDMERB, when that news came in it sent a lot of us scrambling to get them in, but it got done and we heard back fast. This does bring up another important point that Pima noted as well - double check your records!

I did DoDMERB two years ago and kept track of all of my records from and since then, so when round two came up, it was all in and approved the next day.

Second, even though I double checked my GPA last semester, the way the school showed grades on my transcript made the detachment calculate the Air Force version of it incorrectly. Had I not made an appointment "just to make sure" the week before EAs went up, I wouldn't have found the mistake that put not just me, but everyone in my class who took a certain course at risk of competing with a lower GPA - a pretty big deal.

For those of you coming up on your 200 year, keep a copy of everything and keep double checking your det for mistakes. Be able to go in, look at a number and be like "no, that's wrong, and here's why" while pulling out something to prove it.

This is all about your life.
 
200 cadets to 40 at ERAU is shocking.

ERAU has always been a powerhouse for AF.

90% selection rate makes sense if there is an 80% drop rate.

For 16's just because 14's have a 90% rate, don't assume anything. 14's entered with 12's having a 50% rate. That is how fast it can change.

Eagle 1 said:
This is all about your life.

No truer words can be said!
 
kinnem,

JMPO, from a parent, if that is the case, than the det. failed the cadet. This should have been addressed back in Sept when they showed up as 200's, giving every cadet time to get it done.

OK...this one scares me. My DS has never mentioned needed his DODMERB redone. The physical was done July 2009 as an AFA applicant, but he was determined qualified by AFROTC Feb 2010
 
OK...this one scares me. My DS has never mentioned needed his DODMERB redone. The physical was done July 2009 as an AFA applicant, but he was determined qualified by AFROTC Feb 2010

Perhaps he took care of everything himself? I'm sure they would have assigned a doctor down there. Last semester my son's NROTC battalion all had the physicals done at Fort Jackson, so perhaps they addessed it as a unit. Worth a call to DS though, although I'm not sure it makes a difference at this point.
 
Physicals from DoDMERB are valid for 2 yrs.

If he contracted as a scholarship recipient Sept 2010, it was valid for ROTC purposes. You would know by now if it wasn't because he could not contract otherwise...aka no stipend! Even if he converted a type 7 to a 3 yr 2, he would know, but here is the caveat for you:

I am guessing since the Q was 6 months later there was a remedial or a waiver issue since that is a long time between an exam and Q.

I don't know which date the AF will take for DoDMERB, July or Feb? Feb you are clear because it is less than 2 yrs, July he should know because he fell out before contracting if it is a 3 yr scholarship.

I wouldn't worry about this issue if the det has not said anything to hm yet, than don't lose a minute of sleep.

DS, had to have a physical and proof of updated shot records for SFT back in 10 after selection. They may now for 14, decided the physical must be done prior to selection from a paperwork perspective.

It may be that bpenguin's det has that as their rule.

Too many factors, what ifs, and not enough FACTS in this scenario.

One thing I will stress to everyone is that 1st DoDMERB to contract will not be your last. Prior to commissioning you will have another exam. Rated go to WPAFB for a 3 day physical on AF's dime. Waivers in hand will not be an issue, but if there is a variation from that waiver(condition worsens), or if you injure yourself during the yrs between the exams, all bets are off.

Xposted with kinnem.

DS's det handed the cadets the paperwork and said get it done within 14 days. I had to drive up to his college to take him to a doc that accepted our insurance for SFT physical. This was all on him. The det. did not have a "sick call" . He could have used the school, but his issue was H1N1 shot, and menoccocal (sp?) booster which the school was out of, so he had to go to a town doc due to time sensitive dates.

The physical, if it is the same from 10 is basically an annual school physical...shots, eyes, ears, BP, etc. It is not the DoDMERB scholarship or SA exam. We were out within 45 minutes.
 
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Just got an order to come in Wednesday for counseling on my results. I'm excited due to the news of ~90% possibly being selected, though one never does know for sure!

As for the DoDMERB thing, I ended up getting mine done and qualified literally the last day before everything had to be sent. Now, this wasn't because I didn't slog over getting everything in, but because I ended up having a couple remedials and paperwork problems. For future reference, everyone should start the process literally as soon as possible.

Good luck once again to my fellow nail biters out there.
 
I guess the official release date is Wed., and that means every CC across the nation has in hand the results.

Good luck to all!
 
I wouldn't worry about this issue if the det has not said anything to hm yet, than don't lose a minute of sleep.

thanks for the encouragement. that is exactly what my husband said.

My husband is active duty and we are stationed at Ramstein. The funny thing about the 6 month DODMERB delay was the flight dr that did the exam did not record the color vision portion of eye exam according to instructions. I even pointed out to him the exact wording of the instruction letter and he blew me off.

Anyway, my son is on a 4 yr Type 2...and he's been getting the stipend.
 
Just an update on the numbers - AFROTC commander Colonel Dunn came and spoke to our detachment today. We were told the selection percentage was 89% this year.

Not quite 93%, but still darn good.
 
Holy Sheeat Batman!

Congrats to all.

Looks like the AF is through the storm regarding personnel.
 
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