AFROTC 2015 Enrollment Allocations
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Capt. Ahab
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Those were my back-ups in the exact order!
Just remember there's many ways to gain a commission. Keep moving forward.
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If your interested in the Army, talk to the AROTC Cadre as soon as you can.....like Monday. You won't be the only AFROTC cadet that is looking at switching and the Army is cutting back on the number of contracts they have available. So if your interested get with them quickly, you would need to get signed up before the end of the year so that you would be able to contract by at least the start of your junior year.
Good luck on whatever path you decide to take.
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Start talking to your Army ROTC unit. They are more able to get you a contract readied and have you start your AROTC career as a MSIII the sooner you talk to them. Hell they may just offer you a scholarship. One of my peers decided AFROTC wasn't her thing during Field Training and joined Army right before she was supposed to contract. She ended up starting as a MSI because it was too late to get a contract for her to be a MSIII. If flying off of carriers or destroyers are your thing consider Navy OCS as last time I checked they were looking for a good amount of people to be SNA (Student Naval Aviators). Good thing about Navy is that PFA isn't a factor and your GPA has little effect on selection as long as you have an excellent aptitude score. Also consider joining the Air Force Academy if you have the grades and can get a nomination from your Det Commander. Each detachment can nominate 5 cadets to the academy and one of the FTP in my detachment got accepted and dropped AFROTC. Whatever you do, understand there are options outside of being a 500 and some of the options in my opinion are better if you are open to a different service branch.
my detachment col said he would take me down to the army if I wanted and the would likely hook me up with a scholarship that is what happened to the cadets that weren't selected last year. But the more I think about it the more I think I might just finish my degree and try OCS instead so I have more options open when I graduate. Also, I would rather be in the Navy than the Army and I hear Navy OCS isn't that impossible to get into, also I might look into PLC with the marines.
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Congrats wild sky.
I would think that your AFOQT score helped you a lot because a 2.8 is really low when the avg is usually around 3.3/3.4 for nontech. Just beware academics at UPT are much more demanding. The first day at IFS is an exam, and if you bust that exam, there will be a retake two days later. The bigger issue is that on Day 3 is the second exam. Which means you are behind the eight ball right off the bat because by retaking the first exam, you have little time to study for the second exam.
Same is true for UPT. You will do a lot of academics in the beginning. Of course if you have your PPL than that is a different story.
I would think that your AFOQT score helped you a lot because a 2.8 is really low when the avg is usually around 3.3/3.4 for nontech. Just beware academics at UPT are much more demanding. The first day at IFS is an exam, and if you bust that exam, there will be a retake two days later. The bigger issue is that on Day 3 is the second exam. Which means you are behind the eight ball right off the bat because by retaking the first exam, you have little time to study for the second exam.
Same is true for UPT. You will do a lot of academics in the beginning. Of course if you have your PPL than that is a different story.
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I think that is a wise decision. If you can financially swing college, than that is a better idea than committing to a branch that you don't want to serve for 4 years after graduation.
That is what I was thinking, although I would still love to be an Army officer. The thing is I dont really want to risk being put in the reserves because all the civilian opportunities I want to pursue involve me living abroad so I wouldn't be able to really pursue those while being in the reserve. Also I hear Army OCS is not really hard to get accepted into at all as long as you have a decent GPA so I figure if I want to do the army thing I can just apply to that when I graduate.
Not sure where you've heard that.
Army OCS just recently opened again for civilian applicants, and it could very well close again at any time. A decent GPA won't be enough, you will need better, and it is only a small part of the application process. There is the APFT, LOR's, ASVAB tests, GT scores, Board review. OCS is a gap filler for what is needed after the USMA and ROTC. Not all branches are available through OCS, again they get what's left over.
Don't continue with the idea that you can just walk into Army OCS, when you graduate it may not be open to civilian applications.
An ROTC contract would be your best bet for a commission in the Army, whether you get AD or Reserves depends on the effort you put into it.
well I was by no means saying it was a walk in the park but it is the easiest one out of all the branches from what I have read. What are the average stats for going active duty in army ROTC? Im guessing it differs on the branch you want to do in the army. What do the look at GPA, APFT, etc?
It's not so much that Army ROTC is easy or hard, it comes down to whether it is even an available option. PLC would be easier to obtain a slot if the Army is not accepting civilian applications. To be competitive for OCS you would want a GPA of 3.5 or higher, an APFT of 270 or higher, a STEM degree will help as well as very good LOR's and a high GT Score.
A far as AD from ROTC, cadets are first put on a national OML and then selected for AD, branches come after that selection. The only other difference is that there are opportunities through the Special Branching Program to obtain AD if you have a degree that meets certain branch requirements. The Cadre with the battalion will be able to answer all these questions.
The OML takes into account GPA, Standardized Test scores, PMS eval and battalion OML, APFT, and other items that make up the cadets entire score.
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Thanks for the heads up Pima! I didn't do too hot the Fall semester of my freshmen year, so I've been recovering from it over the past two semesters. By hard work I'll have it above a 3.0 soon. I will definitely dedicate much of my time to preparing for the TBAS and UPT after the semester let's out.
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If I am right the TBAS is not like the AFOQT where they don't publish study guides for the exam. Not sure, but for some reason that sticks in my mind (info from a different forum). If you don't have any flight hours yet, I would try to get at least a few under your belt because even as little as 6 hours can bump up your score. Additionally your SFT ranking will be part of your OML for the rated board.
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I received a slot, here's the stats I had:
AS-200
Non-tech/Non-rated
GPA - 2.91
CC Rank - Unknown
PFA - 94.7
AFOQT - Pilot(65), Nav.(47), Ac. Ap.(79), Verbal(83), Quant.(68)
AS-200
Non-tech/Non-rated
GPA - 2.91
CC Rank - Unknown
PFA - 94.7
AFOQT - Pilot(65), Nav.(47), Ac. Ap.(79), Verbal(83), Quant.(68)
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I'll take a shot in the dark and say right around 3.4. Last year was 3.48 and it seems like it'll be lower this year. Add to it the fact that there were going to more nontech slots this year.
Edit: If I were to lean one way I would say it could be even lower than 3.4.