AFROTC 22 Jan Board...

Not today

S looked online and saw that he had not been selected. "Driving on" to participate with Det, which he has visited at his #1 school. Major is Aero Eng.
Good luck all who wish to serve. God has a plan.
 
DS got the bad news today via the website status. It says his file was reviewed by the Board, and he will not be receiving a scholarship. :frown:
I just think he picked the wrong year to apply. Here are his vital for those keeping score, and wondering where they stack up.

27 ACT
3.76 GPA unweighted
Excellent fitness score
Excellent interview (lasted 2 hours, they really hit it off)
50+ hours Flight training (including solo cross country time)
4 years Varsity Football
Captain of the school academic team
Lots volunteer activities
Declared major, non-technical, Criminal Justice

We feel like the biggest obstacle was the non-technical major, and the great, but not fantastic ACT score. Yeah, and the fact this is such an incredibly tough year to apply.

Enough of the bad news. Here is the good news:

He is a great student, and is dual enrolled at a local college. He got A's in both classes he was able to take last semester, English 100, and Math 100. In his second semester of the same courses at 200 level, he is on track to get A's again. :thumb:

Too bad his senior year dual enrollment grades are not included in the evaluation process. If he finishes out like he has started this semester, he will begin his college career at our local University with (4) A's for his core math and english requirements.

He has also applied to AROTC. He did not receive a scholarship from the first board, but he is of the ones they did approve for DODMERB, which he passed without a hitch.

This is not the end of the World. DS would like to be a pilot, or a federal law enforcement officer. Those goals have not changed because he was not offered an AFROTC scholarship. Air Force has been his first choice, but now we will see if the AROTC will come through (the Army has lots of Helicopters to fly) :smile:

If neither come through with a 4 year, he will walk on to either the AFROTC or AROTC and see if he can get a three year scholarship. And if he can't secure one, he plans to stay and commit without a scholarship.

The best news is, either the Air Force or the Army is going to wind up with one fine well rounded young officer. :thumb:
 
Dawgawn - what a great attitude, thanks for posting. You can tell how proud you are of your son. Best wishes to him in his future endeavors.
 
Dawgawn - if he doesn't get a scholarship he needs to start a dialogue with the PMS at the college he chooses. If he attends freshman orientation and signs up for ROTC classes there is a very good chance he will get an in school scholarship.
 
My DS logged on and was awarded a scholarship! Not sure which type until he calls! But that was great news! Still waiting on AROTC and hopefully a USMA offer. Either way it is so nice to know he has some options and for me-some financial assistance! He was passed up on the first AFROTC board and due to the rank they said they would review it this time around. Thank goodness! I am still trying to grasp that he'll be gome in a few short months regardless. Every college he chose is out of state. Sigh. Time to let them fly. LOL- literally maybe!
Good luck to all and to those not awarded one just keep trying! So many impressive hard working bright students on this forum! It truly is a delight to see how hard they all work for our country and their dreams!
 
Dawgawn said:
This is not the end of the World. DS would like to be a pilot, or a federal law enforcement officer. Those goals have not changed because he was not offered an AFROTC scholarship. Air Force has been his first choice, but now we will see if the AROTC will come through (the Army has lots of Helicopters to fly) :smile:

If neither come through with a 4 year, he will walk on to either the AFROTC or AROTC and see if he can get a three year scholarship. And if he can't secure one, he plans to stay and commit without a scholarship.

The best news is, either the Air Force or the Army is going to wind up with one fine well rounded young officer. :thumb:
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Your DS is getting very sound advice!

As for the "federal law enforcement officer", they really love the "military officer" credential. Many of my classmates from Norwich went active duty to complete their service obligation and are now doing great things at U.S. Customs, DEA, FBI, CIA, etc. The pay is much better in these federal agencies than on the state level as you likely know. Note also that the FBI recruits heavily from undergraduate accounting majors and graduate law students, who after graduation serve as field agents on the front lines of the FBI (fun stuff, like busting down doors and the like). You also may want to have a conversation with a recruiter from the local FBI office before your DS starts down the road of selecting a major to confirm what I have just told you about the best classes for becoming an FBI agent.
 
patentesq said:
Note also that the FBI recruits heavily from undergraduate accounting majors and graduate law students, who after graduation serve as field agents on the front lines of the FBI (fun stuff, like busting down doors and the like). You also may want to have a conversation with a recruiter from the local FBI office before your DS starts down the road of selecting a major to confirm what I have just told you about the best classes for becoming an FBI agent.
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Patentesq is exactly right, any federal agency drools at a candidate with an accounting or law degree. Coupled with some military service he would more than likely have his pick of agencies. The only additional skill I could think of that could make him any more attractive would possibly be fluency in an in-demand language.
 
Dawgawn said:
DS would like to be a pilot, or a federal law enforcement officer.
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Perhaps, if he is able to secure a military aviation slot and its respective training and flight time, he might also consider a career as a state police helicopter pilot. In my state, those pilots are sworn officers who mostly provide emergency transportation of injured persons from accidents etc. but still also often participate in manhunts, speed enforcement, and other general aviation duties.

patentesq said:
The pay is much better in these federal agencies than on the state level as you likely know.
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I dont disgree, but being familiar with some of the State Police helicopter pilots in my state, trust me when I say they are doing very very well financially.Very good salary, great benefits (retirement, take home car, etc.) and the ability to do what they love (flying) would seem to me to make for a pretty rewarding life.
 
We are stilll waiting, DS has already been boarded twice (Dec, and Jan) but still not offered. Instead the message is that he is going to be boarded again (three times is a charm right?). I would think that this means that the boards are interested in him but don't feel that they can offer him a board at this time.

I suspect the problem may be that he declared as a non-technical major and to compound it there appears to be a coding error on his application and we cannot correct any mistakes on his application at this time, which is a real bummer. I cannot get anyone at Maxwell to call us back. So my gut feeling is that it is going to be a tough choice for the boards to make. Not happy about it, but we're still in the hunt for the Feb boards.
 
Dawgawn,

I just think he picked the wrong year to apply.
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This is very true. People who have been closely associated to the military will tell you many times, it is not what you know, but timing. Unfortunately for him his timing is off.

That being said do not let him get discouraged...I always say that the military suffers from bulimia. They binge (easy yrs), and say I ate too much so they must purge. Right now it is purging yrs, by the time he graduates, they will probably be binging.

If I were you, I would contact his no.1 school's det., ask for a one on one with the command. Have HIM, not you discuss what he wants to gain in the future. Have him be honest, give his current stats, and inform them that he will be-applying for a scholarship next yr.

This will allow to put his name in the back of his mind. Those applications start up soon after the school yr begins, he will want their support behind him. By informing them now, they can help mentor him for next yr. They also will realize that he is not in it for the money per se, but to proudly serve in the military.

Falcon,

What I would suspect is that your child is on a cusp. Nobody here can tell you what that cusp is, but it could be give him Type 1 or Type 2, or Type 7 or none at all.

Have you talked to his ALO? Is it you calling and not your child? Again, if your child is over 18 they will not speak to the parent at all because they view the candidate as a legal adult, and this is private information.

Are you sure the error coding has not been fixed? For all you know they fixed it on his file, but not on his portal. Also, what type of error coding...a med. dq, academic field, college, etc? Or is it gpa, SAT?

A non-tech field is always harder, especially if you look at it from a statistical %, yet, the fact that they keep bumping him back is a good sign for a non-tech field.

Congrats to all of your children, and now get ready to enjoy yrs of more boards :shake::wink::eek:

For those still waiting, it will never be over until you decide it is over. Best wishes and hopes.
 
patentesq said:
My DS's status still says:

"Your Air Force ROTC Scholarship interview has been received and processed. Your record will meet the next available selection board. You can check back here to find the results of the board. We will mail you a letter notifying whether or not you have been offered a scholarship."

It's been that way for about two weeks. Good sign? Bad sign? We sent an email confirming that DS was boarded on Jan. 22 (his interview was complete in early Jan.).
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My status says the same thing, it changed on the day that the board began so I don't think mine met the board.
 
Pima,

Thanks for the quick reply. The ALO is a nice guy, my DS is still 17 so I can speak with him directly. But he tells me that Maxwell will not do anything to amend his application in anyway. The ALO also tells me that usually it is 2 boards and out, so it is really unusual for them to want to board him a third time.

The errors in his application has to do with questions about his major and if he would consider a different major if it would better meet the needs of the air force i.e. language it shows as no, it should be yes. The online application shows he would not consider another major and that is incorrect. He is DODMERB qualified (USAFA) and I think he has a 100 on his PFA so that should be fine in that regard.

I think it is just a very competitive year. But he has already been accepted to a SMC, state college, and one of his reach schools. So he has good options to pursue his AF career no matter what.
 
It is a very competitive yr. Probably the most competitive in decades.

It expected that 16 will be just as competitive.

Let's remember most people will say the AFROTC program is the most competitive, if not the most on par with NROTC. No insult to AROTC.

Reason why? It is the smallest branch, thus the smallest budget for ROTC.

Go to the det. Have a one on one. I bet he will walk out and feel more assured that even if he gets a NO this yr, they will be there to assist him next yr for in college scholarships...if his gpa is still competitive.

You do understand that by accepting foreign language as his major may impact his career? In other words, he may want to be a pilot, but since he took a foreign language spot, they may never board him for Flying because he was recruited for foreign language? That is a reason some never change to that code. It can limit their career.

My best wishes and hopes.
 
Thanks again Pima,

Things happen for a reason - so as you suggest, it may all be for the best. But another 3 weeks of waiting. :eek: It is really going to get busy come March. Best to everyone - those who know their status and those like my DS who are still waiting.
 
Nelson Rock said:
I was moved to the next board date because of my rank it said. Do I have a better, worse or the same chances of recieving a scholarship?
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Don't think anyone knows, because things are getting tighter and tighter.
 
jdalv2 said:
I would call HQ on monday...They'll probable be able to tell you the type before the official letter would come in the mail.
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Thanks - I will pass this information on to DD. BTW: Where is the HQ contact information located?
 
patentesq said:
My DS's status still says:

"Your Air Force ROTC Scholarship interview has been received and processed. Your record will meet the next available selection board. You can check back here to find the results of the board. We will mail you a letter notifying whether or not you have been offered a scholarship."

It's been that way for about two weeks. Good sign? Bad sign? We sent an email confirming that DS was boarded on Jan. 22 (his interview was complete in early Jan.).
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Despite having all of his materials (including interview) in by early January, my DS learned by email today that his packet won't be looked at until next week's board (Feb. 21-25) and that "[t]he estimated release date to find out if you were offered a scholarship or not is March 11."
 
patentesq,

Was your DS given any indication of when next week's Board results will be released?

My DS had everything in before the December board but was not reviewed until the January board. Now his application has been pushed to the February board and we are hoping that we will have some resolution on this in March. I'm glad that he is still in the hunt.
 
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