AFROTC Chances with no sport and little to show leadership competency? Be honest

RicottaCheese

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Hi, I am currently a Highschool Junior, looking to apply for AFROTC starting this June. I just recently decided that joining the military was what I wanted, so I am a little late in preparing.
I really have nothing to show for athletics, and extracurriculars and volunteer is quite lacking. I just didn't care for these, but only found out about their importance too late.
Although, I could come back with good grades, with A's,
I took AP Euro sophomore year,
Taking AP- Environmental Science, US History, English, and Seminar --so far my grades on these classes are very good, consistent A's
I am planning on taking, AP-Computer Science, Biology, US Gov and Politics, and dual enrollment classes (idk which specific class yet bc its still February)

My physicals are somewhat good, but because of being inactive athletically, it could be better. Im 5'8, 140lbs, Filipina
I have a couple of months to improve my physicals tho

I'm also interested in taking Computer Science, or any tech major, and looking at colleges around VA,
My picks include: George Mason University, Virginia Tech, James Madison University

Also, idk if relevant, but two of my brother in laws enlisted for the Navy, and have been serving for years.
I am quite new and still researching all things-ROTC and USAF, but I know that this is what I want. But if it doesn't work out, NROTC is my second choice.

What are my chances of getting in with these stats? And what could I do to improve them? With the time span I have between now and 2020 june, can I improve my leadership credibility?
Any advice, thoughts, opinions, 2 cents, tips, and anecdotes is very much appreciated!
 

RicottaCheese

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Also, I do add that I got an ISS in sophomore for showing the answers for a driver's education final test,
How severe does this affect me? Is it as severe as, for example, a DUI or something more serious? Will they just brush it off as it is just for copying? If I show that I have gone through self-reflection and learned my mistake, will that improve the situation?
 

MidCakePa

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Hard to say what your chances are because we don’t see your whole package. But not having much — if any — leadership and athletics does not help. Consider this: If you don’t land at an SA or receive a national ROTC scholarship, you can still join ROTC once in college and apply for a campus-based scholarship. Many threads about that here on SAF.
 
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Also, I do add that I got an ISS in sophomore for showing the answers for a driver's education final test,
How severe does this affect me? Is it as severe as, for example, a DUI or something more serious? Will they just brush it off as it is just for copying? If I show that I have gone through self-reflection and learned my mistake, will that improve the situation?

A good portion of qualified applicants are accepted. If you pass medically, physically, and academically, you still have a decent shot. However, you definitely will need to be involved this summer, join some sort of club and / or play a summer sport with your school. Volunteer places to show community service and leadership, and anything else you can think of.

The main downside I can think for your situation is the interview. Having a good resume helps with having good content for your interview answers, having only a few activities will be difficult to last an hour of questioning without being repetitive. Many of the questions for me asked a similar thing and I didn't want to just repeat a similar answer, having a more extensive resume allowed me to expound on my answers through various activities.
 
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Hi, I am currently a Highschool Junior, looking to apply for AFROTC starting this June. I just recently decided that joining the military was what I wanted, so I am a little late in preparing.
I really have nothing to show for athletics, and extracurriculars and volunteer is quite lacking. I just didn't care for these, but only found out about their importance too late.
Although, I could come back with good grades, with A's,
I took AP Euro sophomore year,
Taking AP- Environmental Science, US History, English, and Seminar --so far my grades on these classes are very good, consistent A's
I am planning on taking, AP-Computer Science, Biology, US Gov and Politics, and dual enrollment classes (idk which specific class yet bc its still February)

My physicals are somewhat good, but because of being inactive athletically, it could be better. Im 5'8, 140lbs, Filipina
I have a couple of months to improve my physicals tho

I'm also interested in taking Computer Science, or any tech major, and looking at colleges around VA,
My picks include: George Mason University, Virginia Tech, James Madison University

Also, idk if relevant, but two of my brother in laws enlisted for the Navy, and have been serving for years.
I am quite new and still researching all things-ROTC and USAF, but I know that this is what I want. But if it doesn't work out, NROTC is my second choice.

What are my chances of getting in with these stats? And what could I do to improve them? With the time span I have between now and 2020 june, can I improve my leadership credibility?
Any advice, thoughts, opinions, 2 cents, tips, and anecdotes is very much appreciated!
Your grades look good and I assume your ACT/SAT score is good as well, and that is very important for AFROTC scholarships. So you have checked that box!

What I would personally do for leadership is to try to really get involved within your school government and clubs. Don't just join the clubs, though. Really make an effort to have leadership positions within those clubs. You could even start a club and become president of it. Another thing you could do for leadership is joining an athletic team that not as many people are on. At my school, these would be teams like bowling, golf, tennis, etc. Joining these teams could not only boost your physicals, but you could also captain a team as well, and I know AFROTC loves to see that.

Make sure you volunteer as much as possible. Stay busy and seek as many leadership positions as possible. If you are religious, seek positions within your church. Anything you can possibly do to lead people and stay involved in your community.

Those are my two cents, I hope I helped!
 

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Two specific activities that will greatly benefit you and your development while improving your chances of winning an HSSP:

1. Join Civil Air Patrol. Can't recommend it highly enough.
Be an active participant in your squadron. Sign up for as many leadership and service opportunities as you can.
Go to Summer Encampment.

2.Compete to go to Boys State this summer.

Clock's ticking. Get busy.

Good luck!
 

RicottaCheese

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A good portion of qualified applicants are accepted. If you pass medically, physically, and academically, you still have a decent shot. However, you definitely will need to be involved this summer, join some sort of club and / or play a summer sport with your school. Volunteer places to show community service and leadership, and anything else you can think of.

The main downside I can think for your situation is the interview. Having a good resume helps with having good content for your interview answers, having only a few activities will be difficult to last an hour of questioning without being repetitive. Many of the questions for me asked a similar thing and I didn't want to just repeat a similar answer, having a more extensive resume allowed me to expound on my answers through various activities.
Thank you for the advice!
I will be trying out for tennis this year, and will definitely look for a sport to join this summer, as well as another for senior year
And I am already looking at a bunch of tech clubs such as cybersecurity club and tech student association, and a french club
 

RicottaCheese

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Two specific activities that will greatly benefit you and your development while improving your chances of winning an HSSP:

1. Join Civil Air Patrol. Can't recommend it highly enough.
Be an active participant in your squadron. Sign up for as many leadership and service opportunities as you can.
Go to Summer Encampment.

2.Compete to go to Boys State this summer.

Clock's ticking. Get busy.

Good luck!
Thank you for the tip! I will definitely look more into the civil air patrol
 

RicottaCheese

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Your grades look good and I assume your ACT/SAT score is good as well, and that is very important for AFROTC scholarships. So you have checked that box!

What I would personally do for leadership is to try to really get involved within your school government and clubs. Don't just join the clubs, though. Really make an effort to have leadership positions within those clubs. You could even start a club and become president of it. Another thing you could do for leadership is joining an athletic team that not as many people are on. At my school, these would be teams like bowling, golf, tennis, etc. Joining these teams could not only boost your physicals, but you could also captain a team as well, and I know AFROTC loves to see that.

Make sure you volunteer as much as possible. Stay busy and seek as many leadership positions as possible. If you are religious, seek positions within your church. Anything you can possibly do to lead people and stay involved in your community.

Those are my two cents, I hope I helped!
Thank you so much! Im now trying out for tennis, and will surely talk to my teachers and counselor for more leadership and volunteer opportunities!
 

RicottaCheese

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A good portion of qualified applicants are accepted. If you pass medically, physically, and academically, you still have a decent shot. However, you definitely will need to be involved this summer, join some sort of club and / or play a summer sport with your school. Volunteer places to show community service and leadership, and anything else you can think of.

The main downside I can think for your situation is the interview. Having a good resume helps with having good content for your interview answers, having only a few activities will be difficult to last an hour of questioning without being repetitive. Many of the questions for me asked a similar thing and I didn't want to just repeat a similar answer, having a more extensive resume allowed me to expound on my answers through various activities.
Thank you, I will always keep a look out for programs and events this summer
 

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I am assuming you mean can you get into Rotc and get a scholarship? I just wanted to make sure you realize that can join Rotc without a scholarship and still get a military career out of it. As others have mentioned, once you get in, you can still get a 3 to 3.5 year scholarship. At my sons AFRotc, they would hand out 500- 5000 scholarships ever year so while it didnt pay for for one year, it still helped a lot. To get into Rotc, all you need to qualify is to be able to breath. Staying in however is a lot harder. I am kidding of course, but you can get in if you really want it
 

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The most important to me at the moment is qualifying for afrotc in general and getting in. But if I know I can compete for a scholarship, I will certainly take that opportunity!
 

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The most important to me at the moment is qualifying for afrotc in general and getting in. But if I know I can compete for a scholarship, I will certainly take that opportunity!
If it is an issue of getting in, dont worry about sports or extracurriculars
 
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The most important to me at the moment is qualifying for afrotc in general and getting in. But if I know I can compete for a scholarship, I will certainly take that opportunity!

I would absolutely compete for a scholarship! Start taking any ACT and SAT you can and study whichever you do better on, then take it again. I took the ACT 5 times and ended up receiving a Type 1 scholarship. The work now will help tremendously in the future, its not too late to begin
 
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