AFROTC EA chances, worried, the usual.

Packer,

My assumption is you bolded past few yrs to highlight past yrs.

That does leave the question of when the past was the past?

wyo,

With sequestration on the line, and the AFA lowering admittance for 16 and 17, I would not in anyway, shape or form assume that they will be opening up more slots. I would assume it would match 14's class.

SP is a field that typically in the top chosen because there are cadets like my DS who have a 2nd career field planned from a different perspective. JAG. Intel and SP is that path, maintenance isn't, nor acct. and finance.

You always need to have a plan B. Assume you will get EA, but now when you go up for AFSC, what is your plan B and C if you don't get A, which is SP? You still owe 4 yrs.

Always, always use your next step as a motivator for your current plan. It is a world you need to grasp. You plan SP, but now, is there a specialty within the SP world that you want? If so, that 1st assignment will parlay into the next to get that specialty.

It is like SFT/EA. You want that to become a POC and commission, but how well you perform at Maxwell will impact your AFSC OML. At SFT, you are working for the next step. The next step always has to be cognizant in your mind.
 
Packer, we don't know where wyo is attending. That is the real key here. 2.6 at Notre Dame is different than 2.6 at U of Central Florida.

Just as a 2.6 in Arabaic as a non-tech is different than a 2.6 in English regarding AF manning needs.

There are too many factors out there to make a blanket statement that 2.6 or even 2.9 is common place, but the biggest factor I would roll with is the AVG[.b] cgpa for non-tech regarding SFT 2012 NATIONAL selection was 3.3/3.4, even after they upped the slots by 100 more.

Sorry wyo, and everyone else, be happy that your school is lower, but nationally, that is the avg. Avg means if you have 2.6 getting a slot, and the avg is 3.3 for non-tech, there has to be a 4.0 on the other side to make it work out statistically.

Those same people will be at SFT with you. SFT is more than PT, it is also academics, and come C300/400 yr that score will matter. You will want/need to be at the top for your AFSC if you are still low cgpa wise. SFT is national, you all go through the same course. That DG, top 1, 5, 10% will matter regardless of your career aspiration.

That bag drag at school after selection for AFROTC is a freebie, Don't take it as a whatever, I'll get the blue pens later, or pick up sunscreen before I leave. Do it. .

The study guide is given for a reason, and the reason is not to be your coaster for a soda can.

PFT and what good det will put you through is for your benefit. Don't go home and play X box until July 25th with a report date of the 28th. Take that time and train just as hard as you did, in every type of weather as if you were in school.

Every point come POC and AFSC will now matter more than you could ever imagine. Time to step up to the plate and prove to them and yourself how BAD you want it.
 
My apologies if this has been posted, but we had a commander's call this week and here is the official scoring system that will be used. He also said there would be approximately 2400 EA's this year (about 200 more than last year, but also more AS 200's that will be competing).

50% Commander's Ranking
15% ACT/SAT
15% PFA
20% CGPA

I'm starting to stress over getting an EA as well.

I'm a Computer Science major
PFA: 97.9
GPA: 3.42 (will drop a bit after this semester due to Calc 3)
ACT: 28
Commander's ranking: They tell us in Jan/Feb
 
AirPower24 said:
My apologies if this has been posted, but we had a commander's call this week and here is the official scoring system that will be used. He also said there would be approximately 2400 EA's this year (about 200 more than last year, but also more AS 200's that will be competing).

50% Commander's Ranking
15% ACT/SAT
15% PFA
20% CGPA

I'm starting to stress over getting an EA as well.

I'm a Computer Science major
PFA: 97.9
GPA: 3.42 (will drop a bit after this semester due to Calc 3)
ACT: 28
Commander's ranking: They tell us in Jan/Feb
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I mentioned that near the start of this thread but apparently noone believed me.
 
Becks, it was not if posters, including me were ignoring your post, but because of the TOS regs on this site you can't link, and other AF only forums have been stating those %, hence why I have always said talk to the det.

That being stated, the reality is as a C300/400 for AFSC that CC rec is going to drop radically, the AFOQT/TBAS. plus SFT ranking will take up a HUGE chunk for the OML.

You can't rely on your CC ranking next yr when it comes to your career aspirations regarding your future.

CGPA at such young age does not, will not equate success in the AF. What it does illustrate to the boards an ability to juggle work and play. Something they look at even when you are in HS. The military life is stressful, ROTC is their test drive.
 
Becks, it was not if posters, including me, did not believe you or were ignoring your post, but because of the TOS regs on this site you can't link, and other AF only forums have been stating those %, hence why I have always said talk to the det.

That being stated, the reality is as a C300/400 for AFSC that CC rec is going to drop radically, the AFOQT/TBAS. plus SFT ranking will take up a HUGE chunk for the OML.

You can't rely on your CC ranking next yr when it comes to your career aspirations regarding your future.

CGPA at such young age does not, will not equate success in the AF. What it does illustrate to the boards an ability to juggle work and play. Something they look at even when you are in HS. The military life is stressful, ROTC is their test drive.
 
AirPower24 said:
My apologies if this has been posted, but we had a commander's call this week and here is the official scoring system that will be used. He also said there would be approximately 2400 EA's this year (about 200 more than last year, but also more AS 200's that will be competing).

50% Commander's Ranking
15% ACT/SAT
15% PFA
20% CGPA

I'm starting to stress over getting an EA as well.

I'm a Computer Science major
PFA: 97.9
GPA: 3.42 (will drop a bit after this semester due to Calc 3)
ACT: 28
Commander's ranking: They tell us in Jan/Feb
Click to expand...

2400 EA's...how big is our class nationwide?

Those stats are good, I actually have the same PFA score :eek:
 
That would appear right from a stat perspective, because it would be @ 55% and that has been the avg for yrs except for LY. LY there were dets that had mini-boards at the unit, thus, the pool size was much smaller.

4500 would also appear to be the right number since prior to the latest yr group cuts for ADAF, avg class size was about 5000. Back starting in 10 for 14 commissioning class they did some drastic cuts regarding scholarships, even canceling IS 3 yr AFROTC scholarship boards, and OCS one year.
 
Pima said:
Becks, it was not if posters, including me, did not believe you or were ignoring your post, but because of the TOS regs on this site you can't link, and other AF only forums have been stating those %, hence why I have always said talk to the det.

That being stated, the reality is as a C300/400 for AFSC that CC rec is going to drop radically, the AFOQT/TBAS. plus SFT ranking will take up a HUGE chunk for the OML.

You can't rely on your CC ranking next yr when it comes to your career aspirations regarding your future.

CGPA at such young age does not, will not equate success in the AF. What it does illustrate to the boards an ability to juggle work and play. Something they look at even when you are in HS. The military life is stressful, ROTC is their test drive.
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I wasn't aware we were supposed to site a source for everything we commented on. The information I posted was direct from the VERY latest version of the ROTC instruction, page 170 to be exact.
 
becks,

Nobody was asking you to "site" anything as in an essay. Site in this matter for my post = www.xyz as in a forum The TOS on this site does not allow posters to link other forum sites and posts from that site. You can link whatever AF site you want since that is not a forum nor against TOS. AF link would shut down the conversation to a bare min. by linking exactly what you just posted. This is a forum, and many posters belong to other AF forums where this exact issue is a topic. This isn't the only place where cadets "talk", thus why I stated talk to your det and always will say talk to your det.

Forums are not real time where people can read intonation or clarification compared to personal conversations. It is delayed, and we must/should acknowledge that it impacts the forum regarding the discussion at hand.

If it is on page 170 AFROTC instruction book that is great. There is the answer for everyone and now let's move on.

The subject should than move back to the OP's question and since 55% according to this water cooler conversation among C200's is the number for selection, is the OPs stats, especially with a 23 ACT high enough for a slot? Should they be worried even if they are top 1/3rd? Should they be worried with a low cgpa/ACT how academically they will rank out of SFT which will impact them for AFSC? Should they be concerned come next yr as a C300 how they can translate a 23 ACT into a strong AFOQT?

JMPO, but basically we are spinning wheels here regarding % for the WCS SFT. Honestly, at this late date, what is done is done, and very little can change dramatically in the next few weeks, esp. with a 50% CC rec.

What can change is the future, once selected. Studying for SFT will help. Studying for the AFOQT will be important. Pulling up the cgpa and the PFT may make or break any cadet.

The choice is simple. Worry about something that is basically out of your hands now because it is based on your past. OR start preparing for your future so you are never in this position again. :wink:

:wink: because no matter what, even the 4.0, DG SFT, #1 cadet in the det. will worry next yr when it comes to their AFSC, but the worry isn't a fear of not getting their AFSC, it is a fear of not getting their dream base assignment. The worry never will leave you no matter what, because as you move up the ladder so does the competition, but at the same time there are less opportunities, just like ROTC. Not everyone can be the CWC or CVWC!

Best wishes, hopes, thoughts and luck to AFROTC14 cadets for SFT selection.
 
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