I was just wondering if anyone knows whether or not the AFROTC program has summer training that involves aviation programs such as hands on or actual flight time programs, or if someone could give me a rundown about how the Air Force summer training works? Any info would be appreciated.
AFROTC Summer Training
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AFROTC used to have a few summer programs, but due to budget the have been discontinued. The only summer training we have is Field Training, which is mandatory for commission, and competitive.
Other than that, there are a few study abroad opportunities and internships available, but I'd ask your cadre about them!
Other than that, there are a few study abroad opportunities and internships available, but I'd ask your cadre about them!
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I agree with others, even when $$$$ was flowing the summer AFROTC flight programs were more on par with AFA cadets. They would go to an OPS base and shadow officers. They would get a sim ride or two and an incentive ride, but if you are looking to get flight hours that is not going to happen.
Fish Pod, aka Flight Screening Program {FSP) ended years upon years ago. It was replaced with what is now called IFS ( Initial Flight Screening)
My suggestion to you is save your money and pay for flight hours on your own. Do this for multiple reasons
1. The AFOQT and TBAS exams will be given, and your flight time will help regarding questions on the exam. AFOQT will be used for SFT/EA selection. As stated you cannot commission without attending SFT your rising 300 year (aka junior)
2. TBAS is used for the rated board. You cannot apply just pilot. You must put all 4 down. Flight hours are placed into the equation and you get a bump on points for hours, just like tech gets a bump over non-tech regarding a cgpa.
3. AF requires IFS prior to UPT/UNT. If you have a PPL the AFwill waive IFS graduation. IFS historically washes out 25% of student
There are other reasons why logistically flight school is not worth the cost from an AF perspective.
1. The summer that they could send a cadet would be their rising 400 year.
~ The problem is they send rated cadets to WPAFB for a 3 day FC1 physical. They send @ 800 cadets a year through this over a course of 8 weeks. Scheduling conflictions become an issue.
~ Rated cadets must go through a TS clearance. A TS clearance can take up to 6 months to process. The rated board results are released @ March.
Between these two issues it would not be cost efficient to send them to any training without knowing the results from either issue. Additionally, they would still send them to IFS anyway .
In the end, I stand by my position. Save your money and pay for flight hours now. Our DS had a job, and we made a deal with him his SR YR in HS. Every hour he paid for flight time we paid an hour. He flew every week for an entire year. We didn't pay out a lot. Birthdays, Christmas rolled around and that was not only our gift to him, but from every family member. He did not get his PPPL, but was short only the cross country flight. In college we actually gave him flight hours with a pilot that had a plane similar to IFS (stick)
I would also say to the OP that the AF flight program is different than the Navy. AF wings in 13 months, the Navy is close to two years. It is one of the reasons the AF stopped training pilots at Quoting with the Navy.
Fish Pod, aka Flight Screening Program {FSP) ended years upon years ago. It was replaced with what is now called IFS ( Initial Flight Screening)
My suggestion to you is save your money and pay for flight hours on your own. Do this for multiple reasons
1. The AFOQT and TBAS exams will be given, and your flight time will help regarding questions on the exam. AFOQT will be used for SFT/EA selection. As stated you cannot commission without attending SFT your rising 300 year (aka junior)
2. TBAS is used for the rated board. You cannot apply just pilot. You must put all 4 down. Flight hours are placed into the equation and you get a bump on points for hours, just like tech gets a bump over non-tech regarding a cgpa.
3. AF requires IFS prior to UPT/UNT. If you have a PPL the AFwill waive IFS graduation. IFS historically washes out 25% of student
There are other reasons why logistically flight school is not worth the cost from an AF perspective.
1. The summer that they could send a cadet would be their rising 400 year.
~ The problem is they send rated cadets to WPAFB for a 3 day FC1 physical. They send @ 800 cadets a year through this over a course of 8 weeks. Scheduling conflictions become an issue.
~ Rated cadets must go through a TS clearance. A TS clearance can take up to 6 months to process. The rated board results are released @ March.
Between these two issues it would not be cost efficient to send them to any training without knowing the results from either issue. Additionally, they would still send them to IFS anyway .
In the end, I stand by my position. Save your money and pay for flight hours now. Our DS had a job, and we made a deal with him his SR YR in HS. Every hour he paid for flight time we paid an hour. He flew every week for an entire year. We didn't pay out a lot. Birthdays, Christmas rolled around and that was not only our gift to him, but from every family member. He did not get his PPPL, but was short only the cross country flight. In college we actually gave him flight hours with a pilot that had a plane similar to IFS (stick)
I would also say to the OP that the AF flight program is different than the Navy. AF wings in 13 months, the Navy is close to two years. It is one of the reasons the AF stopped training pilots at Quoting with the Navy.
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That is no better than Del Rio at 100 degrees and 40% humidity, 20 mph winds or Columbus at 93 with 87% humidity and 3 mph winds. IFS is only 3 weeks, UPT is @ 55 weeks.
I'll take Pueblo over Columbus anyway of the week and twice on Sunday.
I will give you that the cross winds are a big problem at Pueblo for fliers that have little to no flight hours when it comes to landing compared to Columbus with 3 mph.
I am off to see the weather forecast for Fairchild because DS will be doing SERE next week for the next three weeks. Than he is off to Little Rock for RTU for 6 months, it is 93 degrees, 96% humidity 0 mph winds, low will be 73? Fun, fun, fun if you like sweating.
The fact is for the AF very rarely are OPS bases located somewhere you would willingly move to for the heck of it. Can you say Canon NM, Mt Home ID, Eilson AK, that is on top of Del Rio, Columbus, Dyess, etc. For every Elmendorf, Hickham Eglin, Shaw there are two bases like Pope, Seymour, McQuire.
You really have to love flying and the AF because if yoiu are a city person like me, beware the AF prefers to have bases in rural areas. Del Rio does not even have a Target. How is that possible in the 21st century?
I'll take Pueblo over Columbus anyway of the week and twice on Sunday.
I will give you that the cross winds are a big problem at Pueblo for fliers that have little to no flight hours when it comes to landing compared to Columbus with 3 mph.
I am off to see the weather forecast for Fairchild because DS will be doing SERE next week for the next three weeks. Than he is off to Little Rock for RTU for 6 months, it is 93 degrees, 96% humidity 0 mph winds, low will be 73? Fun, fun, fun if you like sweating.
The fact is for the AF very rarely are OPS bases located somewhere you would willingly move to for the heck of it. Can you say Canon NM, Mt Home ID, Eilson AK, that is on top of Del Rio, Columbus, Dyess, etc. For every Elmendorf, Hickham Eglin, Shaw there are two bases like Pope, Seymour, McQuire.
You really have to love flying and the AF because if yoiu are a city person like me, beware the AF prefers to have bases in rural areas. Del Rio does not even have a Target. How is that possible in the 21st century?
Went to NCO LS at Mt Home back in the early 80's - it was a CONUS remote assignment with the gate miles from the base itself and nothing to do but plink at gophers and make an occasional foray into town to eat at Scrubby's or the Sunset Cafe...
I was REALLY glad I wasn't stationed there...
I was REALLY glad I wasn't stationed there...