AFROTC Type 2 and 7 scholarships upgraded to Type 1 for ivy league

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Did anyone else get an email from AFROTC saying the Type 2 or Type 7 scholarship will be upgraded to Type 1 if the student gets and accepts admission to one of 16 colleges - the Ivy Leagues, Notre Dame, Vandy, UChicago, Rice.

I wish they had made this decision before application deadline to these schools :-(
 
Can you cut and paste this email as a reply to this?
 
Dear AFROTC Scholarship Designee,
We are delighted to inform you that AFROTC has established a new 4-year HSSP scholarship opportunity for all 2019-2020 HSSP scholarship cycle designees. All 2019-2020 HSSP scholarship cycle designees who are accepted to, and choose to attend, one of the following sixteen schools starting in the 2020-2021 academic year will have their Type 2 or Type 7 AFROTC scholarship offers upgraded to a Type 1 offer:

Princeton UniversityMassachusetts Institute of Technology
Harvard UniversityYale University
Columbia UniversityStanford University
University of ChicagoUniversity of Pennsylvania
Duke UniversityNorthwestern University
Brown UniversityJohn Hopkins University
Rice UniversityUniversity of Notre Dame
Cornell UniversityVanderbilt University

To qualify for this upgrade you must:
1) Accept your scholarship and upload your Letter of Admission (LOA) to one of these schools no later than 31 May 2020 through your online account at https://wings.holmcenter.com, and complete all scholarship checklist items prior to arriving at school for the Fall 2020 term,
AND​
2) Meet all scholarship activation requirements no later than the end of the Fall 2020 term, including obtaining a qualified Department of Defense Medical Examination Review Board (DODMERB) physical exam, meeting AFROTC height/weight (Body Mass Index (BMI)) standards, maintaining full-time college student status, and being a U.S. citizen.
Please be advised that if either of the above conditions is not met in the above timeframes, the HSSP Scholarship upgrade offer will be rescinded. If at any time a cadet disenrolls or transfers from any of these sixteen schools to a school not on the list for any reason, the HSSP Scholarship upgrade offer will be rescinded and will revert to the original scholarship type (Type 2 or Type 7) offered. To retain the scholarship, cadets must maintain all AFROTC scholarship standards throughout their academic career, to include G.P.A., physical fitness, and medical requirements, per their contract with AFROTC. Note this scholarship offer is an upgrade to your current HSSP offer, be it Technical, Non-Technical, or Foreign Language.
If you have any questions regarding this opportunity, please email your HSSP scholarship technician; if your last name begins with A-K, please email afrotc.hssp2@us.af.mil; if your names begins with L-Z, please email afrotc.hssp3@us.af.mil. You may also call at 866/423-7682 from 7:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Central Time.
Congratulations again on your selection as a 2019-2020 HSSP scholarship cycle designee. We look forward to seeing you this fall at whichever AFROTC Detachment you choose to attend.
 
Wow. But you're right, it's a little late to send it out. I'm surprised they didn't limit the recipients to those who selected these schools on their AFROTC app - I'm assuming from the tone of your email that you hadn't applied to these schools, maybe that's incorrect and AFROTC did limit their email distribution.
 
I did apply to Columbia as a stretch school - have no expectation of getting in as my SAT is only 1420 - but I was invited to apply without a fee so I figured I didn't lose anything by applying. I did not even consider these other schools because with a Type 2 scholarship, my out of pocket would have been about $40,000/year.
 
I did apply to Columbia as a stretch school - have no expectation of getting in as my SAT is only 1420 - but I was invited to apply without a fee so I figured I didn't lose anything by applying. I did not even consider these other schools because with a Type 2 scholarship, my out of pocket would have been about $40,000/year.
Well you might consider informing admissions at Columbia that you now have a full tuition scholarship for them if they accept you. At a minimum talk to the AFROTC unit there.
 
What do you guys think this means. Based on this I have a feeling they were able to get more Type ones in the stock so now they can give other folks more type 2s and 7s.
 
What do you guys think this means. Based on this I have a feeling they were able to get more Type ones in the stock so now they can give other folks more type 2s and 7s.
Well, the application deadline was January 17, so the timing is coincidental if nothing else.
 
Darn. We ripped up an application in progress. Long shot at mid 1400s 3.8.. but a legacy. (Little easier to get in those places back in the day ;).)

Wish we had sent it now.
 
Columbia AFROTC is crosstown with Manhattan College. So, I doubt the ROTC Unit is going to have any contact with Columbia admissions.
 
Columbia AFROTC is crosstown with Manhattan College. So, I doubt the ROTC Unit is going to have any contact with Columbia admissions.
Then I'd recommend figuring out a way to tell them yourself. You're now a full-pay $60k/year applicant to them.
 
I would say from first hand experience ..YES it makes a difference.. . Definitely tell them at the cadre of the school. My son already had a Type 1 scholarship prior to this upgrade For anonymity I wont be specific but my son was accepted early action to one of the big 3 (Harvard, Yale, Princeton) and I will say the local command was very active in notifying admissions. I will also say the the other two places have reached out to him asking him if he had any questions and encouraging him to consider their school AND they both have equally contacted the respective admission departments on his behalf. I actually expect he will gain admission to all 3 places. Granted he is a top student (1570 SAT 1/425 in class. 4.0 GPA etc) but they get 30000 applicants that look like that so obviously having the commander weigh in on admission decision gives you a boost! Go for it!

That said, any thoughts on why they decided to offer this? ( i think its great by the way). Lack of interest or available students at those type institutions? Desire to get more of this type student into the Air Force? Obviously this is being sent out after application deadline so no one who did not already apply will be able to..so it wont attract additional applicants. Perhaps the conversion rate, meaning the # of students who get into these schools who do not have a full type 1 scholarship is low? Perhaps students decline scholarship if they get in because they see themselves still having to pay such a large lump of money to attend these schools with only a partial scholarship and then the pay in the service is too low to justify taking on that debt load? Interested to hear others thoughts.
 
Another reason could be that the NROTC covers the full tuition for all scholarship recipients. So, if someone got into one of these schools and had to choose between NROTC and AFROTC, the choice is clear, and AFROTC was probably losing these top tier students.
 
I would say from first hand experience ..YES it makes a difference.. . Definitely tell them at the cadre of the school. My son already had a Type 1 scholarship prior to this upgrade For anonymity I wont be specific but my son was accepted early action to one of the big 3 (Harvard, Yale, Princeton) and I will say the local command was very active in notifying admissions. I will also say the the other two places have reached out to him asking him if he had any questions and encouraging him to consider their school AND they both have equally contacted the respective admission departments on his behalf. I actually expect he will gain admission to all 3 places. Granted he is a top student (1570 SAT 1/425 in class. 4.0 GPA etc) but they get 30000 applicants that look like that so obviously having the commander weigh in on admission decision gives you a boost! Go for it!

That said, any thoughts on why they decided to offer this? ( i think its great by the way). Lack of interest or available students at those type institutions? Desire to get more of this type student into the Air Force? Obviously this is being sent out after application deadline so no one who did not already apply will be able to..so it wont attract additional applicants. Perhaps the conversion rate, meaning the # of students who get into these schools who do not have a full type 1 scholarship is low? Perhaps students decline scholarship if they get in because they see themselves still having to pay such a large lump of money to attend these schools with only a partial scholarship and then the pay in the service is too low to justify taking on that debt load? Interested to hear others thoughts.

My theory is that the Air Force got more scholarship money to hand out meaning more type 1 scholarships to give and and those type 7s and type 2s would trickle down to others. So in a more simplified term more scholarships in the bucket.
 
My DD received the same letter yesterday. Our guess is that those places are hurting in numbers and they are hoping to "sweeten the pot" so that those who have applied will consider filing the paperwork to be assigned to those units.
 
My guess would be that, given the timing of this message, they are now perhaps forecasting anticipated leftover scholarship money and figured this would give them the biggest bang for the leftover buck. I'd further guess that it's effectively directed at non-tech recipients since tech recipients applying to these schools were probably awarded Type 1s already. This leads me to wonder whether it's really more directed to competing with AROTC recipients, or SA appointees, than NROTC recipients.
 
I can assure you of one DS who is kicking himself for not completing his Notre Dame app. :sadwavey:
 
Wow...wish they would have done this for my son last cycle....he's at one of those schools but with a converted Type 7 to a Type 2. :yikes:
 
Wow! I wish they had that when my daughter went through 2 cycles ago. It should help help Air Force compete favorably with Navy and Army at top private schools.

My DD had a Type 7 Air Force ROTC scholarship which as a parent I would not even let her consider using since she had Navy ROTC at Yale and Army ROTC at Princeton with acceptances to both. The math differential between the scholarships is mind boggling at a top private school and not worth pursuing in my opinion. The change now levels the playing field however.

My advice to future students / parents is to use the scholarship at a school that actually has that ROTC unit at the school / campus the student attends. Cross-town / Cross-city / Cross-state ROTC programs take too much valuable time away from the student's studies, quality of life, etc. and lead to much higher attrition rates from the ROTC programs. Enrolling in a ROTC program at a school that requires a long commute is not worth the risk if one has the option to go to another fine private school that has the same program on campus.
 
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