Yes. IMHO the local interview takes on too much weight for AFROTC. It leaves too much in the hands of the local interviewer and their judgment on the candidate.The interview is dispositive.
Great stats won't get you a Type 1. Mediocre stats won't preclude you from getting a Type 7.
The interview, Ben.
Mr. Maguire: There is a great future in acing your ROTC Scholarship interview. Think about it. Will you think about it?
Benjamin Braddock: Yes, I will.
Mr. Maguire: Okay. Enough said. That's a deal.
Unfortunately that's the way it is based off our algorithm. A good chunk of our applicants have perfect GPA / test scores. Our interview is what determines most of it.Yes. IMHO the local interview takes on too much weight for AFROTC. It leaves too much in the hands of the local interviewer and their judgment on the candidate.
I've posted my thoughts on this issue here: https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/overemphasis-on-the-detachment-interview-for-the-air-force-rotc-high-school-scholarship-hssp-progr.68757/
Do you use reddit?@AROTCPMS I can't seem to find the private message function in here, perhaps I am to infrequent a user to have earned such a function? Anyway, I would be glad to share a profile of our sons stats if you would like to PM me. I don't feel it's overly beneficial to put that in the public forum like this because I fear it becomes a yardstick by which other young candidates measure themselves and if they find that their numbers are slightly lower it only serves to invoke unneeded anxiety and worry. So for respect of the great candidates awaiting board decision I would be willing to share in PM. I think it reasonable to concede that the numbers are important but there are other factors unmeasured by SAT or GPA alone and these young folks shouldn't get too hung up on the stats.
Keep in mind these stats will decrease with later boards. Earlier boards are typically those who are trying for ED at their colleges and are Ivy League applicants.Thanks for the stats on Type 1 and 2 scholarship awards through the first two Boards. The SAT's for the Type 1 and 2 awards in particular appear significantly higher than recent years.
To me I would not say they are significantly higher than recent years. The stats I have seen in the past are in the 30-31 range for ACT and mid to high 1300s for the SAT for type 1 and 2. The last I saw a few yrs back was type 7 avg was 29 with a high 1200, almost 1300. Type 2 was 30 and mid 1300s. Type 1 was @31 and very high 1300, close to 1400.Thanks for the stats on Type 1 and 2 scholarship awards through the first two Boards. The SAT's for the Type 1 and 2 awards in particular appear significantly higher than recent years.
I would also think that many of those candidates also are trying for an SA appointment, since their (USAFA) system really pushes for the candidates files to be completed by Nov. 1st. Thus, many of those candidates will also try to complete everything by the end of the summer, which means they are going to meet the 1st few boards. They might as well if you think about it from applying for both an SA and ROTC scholarships.Earlier boards are typically those who are trying for ED at their colleges and are Ivy League applicants.
Glad to hear this for a variety of reasons.Unfortunately that's the way it is based off our algorithm. A good chunk of our applicants have perfect GPA / test scores. Our interview is what determines most of it.
For example, if we go majority by academic score -> the averages across all types would be high 3.9, and almost near perfect test scores. As much as academics is important, character is what we really look for. A lot of these students may only apply as a USAFA backup whereas someone who is definitely driven with same stats to do AFROTC will be picked.
I believe how you look that particular day illustrates a lot regarding character. I work mgmt for a national retailer. 1st impressions regarding how they dress tells me a lot about them. Did you put thought into what would occur today, or was this, oh well let me roll out of bed and grab something from my closet?At the end of the day, would you rather hire a leader that is concerned with how his/her hair looks that particular day
I'm curious if you know, but what is the percentage award rate for Type 2 for any major? I'm guessing it's smaller than for tech majors. Thanks!Keep in mind, this was the last FY. This year might be different as we are predicting more applicants. FYSA:
This year, we already have ~7K applicants and the deadline is in January 17.
|FY19 HSSP Results | SAT | ACT | GPA|
|Overall (2534 scholarships) |1366 | 30 | 3.78|
|Type 1 (284 / 11%) |1472 | 33 | 3.93|
|Type 2 (437 / 17%) |1404 | 31 | 3.87|
|Type 7 (1813 / 72%) |1342 | 29 | 3.73|