Am I able to join another ROTC program?

I have a certified DoDMERB.

I was disenrolled due to my performance in AFROTC and that I am a "questionable leader." If I join another ROTC program, will my past performance prevent me from being able to commission?
 
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AROTC-dad

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will my past performance prevent me from being able to commission?
Possibly.
When you were disenrolled, you likely received a code from your AFROTC advisor that flags your file for other commissioning programs including OCS/OTS.

Your best bet is to contact the recruiting officer (e.g. Army ROTC Recruiting Operations Officer or ROO) and ask if this is waiverable. It may be possible that they would allow you to "enroll" as a non-contract/college programmer ROTC participant and you could demonstrate how valuable you are and hope for the waiver.

All programs will ask if you have ever been dropped or disenrolled from a commissioning program and you had better answer yes due to future background checks for security clearances.

What ROTC program were you considering?
 
Possibly.
When you were disenrolled, you likely received a code from your AFROTC advisor that flags your file for other commissioning programs including OCS/OTS.

Your best bet is to contact the recruiting officer (e.g. Army ROTC Recruiting Operations Officer or ROO) and ask if this is waiverable. It may be possible that they would allow you to "enroll" as a non-contract/college programmer ROTC participant and you could demonstrate how valuable you are and hope for the waiver.

All programs will ask if you have ever been dropped or disenrolled from a commissioning program and you had better answer yes due to future background checks for security clearances.

What ROTC program were you considering?
NROTC Marine option.
 

AROTC-dad

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There are two ways to go.
  1. Speak to the NROTC/MO recruiting officer and put all your cards on the table. (You still need to be accepted to Advanced Standing).
  2. Contact the Marine OSO for PLC/OCS and do the same thing. (Not as good as #1, as PLC is the last source for officers and used to "top off" their recruiting mission)
Given the fact that the Corps is needing to increase its numbers, you might get an opportunity to show your stuff. But you can't do whatever you did before with the AF and expect them to give you one ounce of slack.

What was the cause of disenrollment? If it was a legal issue, it may be tougher to get through this.

Perhaps @NavyHoops or @kinnem will chime in as they are more expert on all things Marine.

Don't neglect considering AROTC as they have the largest recruiting mission to fill.
 
There are two ways to go.
  1. Speak to the NROTC/MO recruiting officer and put all your cards on the table. (You still need to be accepted to Advanced Standing).
  2. Contact the Marine OSO for PLC/OCS and do the same thing. (Not as good as #1, as PLC is the last source for officers and used to "top off" their recruiting mission)
Given the fact that the Corps is needing to increase its numbers, you might get an opportunity to show your stuff. But you can't do whatever you did before with the AF and expect them to give you one ounce of slack.

What was the cause of disenrollment? If it was a legal issue, it may be tougher to get through this.

Perhaps @NavyHoops or @kinnem will chime in as they are more expert on all things Marine.

Don't neglect considering AROTC as they have the largest recruiting mission to fill.
It was not a legal issue, I allowed others to mistreat me as a means of acceptance. Even though my DoDMERB is good, The Det. Commander does not think I have the capacity to serve as a commissioned officer.
 

AROTC-dad

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Is the gunny from NROTC/MO or the local recruiter? I would prefer you speak to the OSO or PNS.

Perhaps I am mistaken but I believe that Gunnys teach tactics and usually don't get involved with officer waiver procedures, especially involving disenrollments.

I encourage you to keep fighting for the waiver, but speak to the right staff.
 
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Is the gunny from NROTC/MO or the local recruiter? I would prefer you speak to the OSO or PNS.

Perhaps I am mistaken but I believe that Gunnys teach tactics and usually don't get involved with officer waiver procedures, esoecially involving disenrollments.

I encourage you to keep fighting for the waiver, but speak to the right staff.
When I went into the office, the secretary said he was the person to talk to in order to join the NROTC program. He told me I have to take a PT test in order to join.
 

AROTC-dad

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Yes, but does he know you were diserolled from AFROTC?
The gunny is just getting you ready to become a college programmer.

You could put in a lot of time and effort just to be informed that you are ineligible for advanced standing.
 
Yes, but does he know you were diserolled from AFROTC?
The gunny is just getting you ready to become a college programmer.

You could put in a lot of time and effort just to be informed that you are ineligible for advanced standing.
The first thing I told him was that I was just disenrolled from AFROTC and I gave him the reason. He then asked how many pull ups I could do & my run time. He then told me I have a PT test next week.
 

AROTC-dad

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Then you have done everything right.

Learn from your past mistakes, continue to be truthful, bust your butt, and hopefully the chips will fall in your favor.

Just remember that the waiver will likely come from the Marine Officer in charge although the gunny will have some input.

Good luck to you.
 

ProudDad17

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I'd like to add that you should be prepared to answer some questions, such as what led you to allow others to mistreat you for acceptance. I would expect that this behavior would be a huge red flag for an officer development program. In addition, you should be prepared to answer questions about what you have learned from this experience and what you have done to correct this issue. These will be huge factors in whether you get another shot. I would certainly expect that the Marines would not be any more tolerant of this behavior than the Air Force.
 
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