Appointment Insider Info - Read at your own emotional risk!

I have to agree on the "probably most of the slots are filled, but the candidates don't know yet" mindset. For West Point at least, as of March 1, I could see a TON of new "Appointment Offered" statuses on our database, but none of those candidates know yet (I've been in touch casually with some of them). I have to believe this is similar. Especially since my younger son just got an email from his ALO last week saying "They have offered 350 out of 1350 slots so far and will resume their offers in March so the other 1000 will be doled out. Just wanted to let you know the majority of offers will now be offered in March so no worries if you haven't heard anything yet". Also, I was at a conference with our State's ALO right around the same time and she also could tell a lot of the appointments but had showed me that a lot were still up in the air (as we were discussing various candidates who'd applied to both academies).

On a flip note, I just told my son who's at USAFA this info (that 2015 was filled) and his response was "woo! only 400 new freshman - nobody else needs to get cut!" :thumb:
 
Pima said:
4. He made a great point. For those of you who are holding onto an appointment you are impacting someone else's life.

Sooner or later you have to make a decision. The clock is ticking down. There is one thing if you are awaiting a result from another SA or ROTC, another if you still can't make the decision while holding all of the cards and say I have to X date and I am going to wait.
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I disagree.

Every candidate who has an appointment offer...

- whether they are waiting for their "#1 choice" SA appointment or not,
- whether they already have 2 or 3 appointments and are deciding between Academy A or Academy B,
- whether they have one Academy appointment and are unsure,

...has the right to use every day allowable to decide whether to accept or not.
 
Let me re-phrase that:

Don't hold the cards with a non-chalant attitude.

Yes, you have the right, but if your attitude is I'll think about it later because I don't want to think about it today, I think that is the wrong approach.

There are kids who need that time to weigh all options, there are also kids who are afraid to make the decision. They would prefer to not address it and put the decision off as long as they can. Thus, the clock is ticking remark.

I think we all have met kids like this. It isn't done out of malice, it is done out of fear that this is a life decision and one they are not ready to address.

A friend of ours went crazy because everyday she would ask so where are you going to go, only to get responses like:

I am busy making plans for spring break with my friends, after spring break I will decide.

That turned into after Prom

That turned into after the APs.

It was truly about the fear of saying "yes".

For others it is about this is my last spring break, my prom, I just want to enjoy life and no matter what they said I have until X date and I am not going to think about it until X date.

That is what I mean by non-chalant.
 
Bayview if your child has a principal and is 3 q the BFE is in the mail or will be soon. Like I said, it is pretty hard to mail out 1000 BFEs in one week.

I would be curious to find out from Fliegers POV, why it would be delayed as a principal once the application was considered complete.

Just curious, because the rule of thumb I knew was principal + 3 q = apptmt. Thus, the AFA would not have to wait until the entire slate needed a WCS before sending his BFE out.

Bayview when did he get 3 q? Did he only just get 3 q in Feb?
 
First let me say as a parent, I very much appreciate being able to lurk here and be nervous and wonder about the process in the company of other and to receive insights and information from others more knowledgeable and experienced. That said, I think I have 2 questions: first, on the academyadmissions.com site, there is a clarifying statement that an applicant will be considered a candidate* if he/she is deemed competitive by the AFA OR if he/she receives an nomination - so if a file says candidate, complete (paraphrased from memory) - that does not necessarily mean an automatic appointment for a Principal Nominee, correct?

Second, what is the typical timing for the notification of a Principal Nominee once the file is complete? In other words, my son completed his file in Jan, received his Principal Nomination in Dec, but was asked/given the opp to retake the CFA. The re-take of the CFA was good from what I have read here - all but one score at or well above average, and that one was only a little off. Those were submitted on Feb 25. So, I am assuming now that his form has been processed and his application once again says Complete, that the review committee will have to meet again to consider the new CFA scores to determine whether he is competitive? I also found this surprising considering the advice here regarding CFA scores being offset by varsity sports, etc. Apparently, that isn't always the case, my son had 4 years of varsity FB and 4 years of varsity LAX with boxing, powerlifting, track, cycling and more, but they still asked/offered the re-take on the CFA. According to the Congressional Guide on the AFA website, Principal Nominees are notified immediately if they are competitive. So, if we haven't heard, should we assume that my son isn't competitive? What order does the notification come? Website, MOC, BFE? or MOC, Website, BFE?
 
You can have a principal, but not be deemed to be competitive by the AFA. If they are not 3 q they will not appt.

I cannot and would not speculate on why an athlete like your DS needed to re-take the CFA.

The only thought is that the 1 part where he was low did not meet their mins. Remember, the AFA only posts max not mins. Fail just in one of them and it could mean not being CFA qual.

Agagles,

Actually yrs back they sent a post card. Due to fiscal times they may have stopped that this yr.

3 q
1. Academic (above 490 V or 24 E)
2. CFA
3. DodMERB

I am sure if your child contacts the regional they will tell you if you are 3 Q. You should be able to know 2 of the 3 without the phone call, only the CFA would be the unknown.

Remember if you don't have a principal or MOC doesn't use that method, and are 3 q, it is still going to come down to the WCS.

Other thing to remember, a candidate with a principal from Sen A, may have a principal to another SA. That means if they take the other SA, they will go back to the WCS or alternate (MOC).

Also to get this thread back on topic, it appears that Hornet's info was correct. Some ALO's are saying the bulk decisions were made last week, and the next batch will be held off until acceptances and rejections to get a handle on the number.

REMEMBER you can't process 1000 BFEs in a day or 2. Don't start getting heart attacks because you didn't get it yet...give it a few more days. If by the 15th you don't have a BFE remember the chances aren't over yet since traditionally they have a 25% rejection rate. Which means you will stay on the ride just a tad bit longer.
 
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I also have a principal nom and received a post card telling me I'm an official candidate. Then a week later, I received a letter telling me to re-take the CFA, which I did (my weak score improved, but everything else that I was above average on went down a little bit except the mile). To be honest, I'm just really confused at this point and I just want to find out.

I think all we 2015 hopefuls can do now is (try to) sit back and wait. There's nothing we can do but that. Now let's see if I can follow my own advice...
 
Pima said:
Actually yrs back they sent a post card. Due to fiscal times they may have stopped that this yr.
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Thanks Pima. As you are aware my son has an appointment. I was questioning whether and how anyone knows that the USAFA considers them "3Qd" other than their candidate status on the web portal. Does just having the "candidate" status equal 3Qd? (see above post)
 
I agree with your point to say, that people get confused in this walk of life.

Just because you get a nom, does not mean the AFA deems you 3 Q.

I have to say I am actually shocked how many posters are saying that they have been asked to re-take the CFA over. In the amount of yrs here, I would say that if you totaled the amount over the last 3 yrs that were given this option and the amount for this yr alone, this yr = more than the 3 previous yrs of posters summed up together.

I have never heard of a 3rd CFA. Kat take that as a feather in your cap because they really, really want you.

Again, with the fact that they reduced apptmts by 25% from ly or the yr before that, anyone who got the chance for a 2nd CFA was handed a gift. Something in your file is a WOW.
 
OK More information...

Hi folks,

This is a response from our AFA ALO. Just another data point. If folks are gathering info as well, please share. For the time being - let's step back from the ledge a bit and see what other sources can provide for us.

"I just verified with the admissions counselors and this rumor is false.
The main boards were only held last week (this is where the majority of the Candidates are selected) and those individuals should find out by the beginning of April for those going direct entry. Most people (including those not going direct entry) will be notified by the beginning of May."

If we can piece this all together, then we will have a better idea as to what is going on.

Cheers!
 
Thanks Falcon,

I just contacted our MOC's office (KY-3rd). The district is scheduled for two USAFA appointments this year and the MOC has not heard anything yet from Admissions. As you say, it seems that the bulk of decisions have been made but now we are waiting for the communications to occur.
 
falconfamily said:
those individuals should find out by the beginning of April for those going direct entry. Most people (including those not going direct entry) will be notified by the beginning of May.
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Well, that seems to be a much longer wait :bang:
 
I just called USAFA/RRS and confirmed this "rumor" is NOT TRUE!!!

As previously noted, the "main boards" have just started to meet...large numbers are now being reviewed and selected...the bulk of the class of 2015 is now being selected...this month.

The wait will continue...sorry folks.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
So does this confirm what DS's ALO shared with me today via phone: "notifications will go out the first week of April" ? Or as selections are made, will notification be on a rolling basis? Thanks for everyone's insight and best of luck to all.
 
I agree with TKUser21Mom, I see this as good news. Thanks to all who contacted ALO's etc. to give some insight. Frustrating to wait; yes. Can we be patient? Absolutely. Keep the info stream coming.......we all appreciate it.
 
Okay...

I called up to USAFA/RRS...they're the selection folks and explained what's going on here. After a discussion they agreed to tell me that the majority of appointments are being made NOW. The "main board" is now meeting (they would NOT tell me when, how often, etc.) and is making offers. They said that will go on most of the month, although depending upon "anything and everything" (my comment) it might take longer.

In other words...candidates will be hearing from now until April, as we've said all along.

There's no "set date" to receive notification, etc., it'll just "happen" or it won't.

I know, not the answer folks want to hear; ya'll want something definitive. Well, at the risk of sounding trite: get used to it, this is the military! :biggrin:

The wait, mailbox stalking, angst...continues.

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
"It ain't over 'til it's over."


Best quote I've found on this forum since I became a member, and I believe it applies to all of us candidates/parents who are anxious in regards to the admissions status.

Thanks so much for the update flieger83 - things are only starting up folks - lets keep our heads up and hope for that BFE in the days/weeks to come!!! :thumb:
 
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