Are my Academics good enough for West Point? Or I'm below the average?

There have been several threads here over the years from U.S or dual citizen applicants who lived outside the U.S. You may want to search across all forums, or use Google with “international applicant site:www.serviceacademyforums.com” in the search string.

Good luck to you.
My case is peculiar because I'm the only U.S. Citizen in my Family, my only link to the U.S. is my Citizenship (I think that the guy I talked to referred to the first case from my country in my "conditions")
 
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I find this hard to believe.

No one can accurately tell you what your chances are. The class specs showing academic standards for incoming classes are available for you to do some research. However bare in mind that these are only part of the equation.
My case is peculiar because I'm the only U.S. Citizen in my Family, my only link to the U.S. is my Citizenship (I think that the guy I talked to referred to the first case from my country in my "conditions")
 
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I never attended and American School, but by converting my grades,contextualizing and describing accurately the situation I hope to give them a clearer Idea (My math teacher said that here the program is 2-3 years ahead of the U.S. by watching samples of the SAT and official programs of U.S. High Schools). Obviously this doesn't mean that I will let my guard down and/or underestimate the SAT.
Maybe tell everyone your year in HS, what math classes you have taken (regular, AP, etc.), grades in those classes in order to get more feedback. The issue is not if you get in, its if you can succeed there.
 
If you are attending the best university in Europe why do you want to attend WP and become an officer in the US Army? What are your long term goals? Receiving an appointment to a SA is so much more complex than just being academically strong, ahead in Math or getting good SAT scores.

I have US and German citizenship (I was born and grew up in the US w/ American mother, German father). My German citizenship was practical when I lived in Germany in terms of having less bureaucracy to deal with but other than that it was "just on paper" and not in my heart. I don't FEEL German. I am an American. As a US citizen you are allowed to apply to WP but I do hope you FEEL American.

It is very difficult to get an appointment to any of the SAs. I am not an admissions expert so I have no idea if your unique background will make your application stronger or weaker than that of your competition. All applicants need to work on their plan B,C, D.... If your uni is one of the best in Europe it probably offers incredible exchange programs with other universities in the US and world wide.

(Also, do you have dual citizenship? You will have to renounce the citizenship of your home country if you get an appt at WP.)
 
If you are attending the best university in Europe why do you want to attend WP and become an officer in the US Army? What are your long term goals? Receiving an appointment to a SA is so much more complex than just being academically strong, ahead in Math or getting good SAT scores.

I have US and German citizenship (I was born and grew up in the US w/ American mother, German father). My German citizenship was practical when I lived in Germany in terms of having less bureaucracy to deal with but other than that it was "just on paper" and not in my heart. I don't FEEL German. I am an American. As a US citizen you are allowed to apply to WP but I do hope you FEEL American.

It is very difficult to get an appointment to any of the SAs. I am not an admissions expert so I have no idea if your unique background will make your application stronger or weaker than that of your competition. All applicants need to work on their plan B,C, D.... If your uni is one of the best in Europe it probably offers incredible exchange programs with other universities in the US and world wide.

(Also, do you have dual citizenship? You will have to renounce the citizenship of your home country if you get an appt at WP.)
Great point, you see in all these years despite having no one or anything connecting me whit the United States I always felt an American, I consider being a U.S. citizen as a privilege. I want to use this opportunity that life gave me to serve my country and prove that despite the distance being a citizen of the United States of America is an honor, like a fire that burns inside of you, a force that makes your heartbeat when you listen to The Star-Spangled Banner, something that makes you proud of being part of a country made of different people that despite their backgrounds, religion, gender or race share the same dream and work together under the same flag. I want to do a job where I move to different countries and I’m constantly challenged, where I work in team and I can use my passions and skills for the benefit of this country. If I will ever get in I want to pursue a military career, I already envision myself as a U.S. commissioned officer and a Cadet. I firmly believe in the sense of legality, justice, and democracy, for me, it is a mission to serve my country, I have made many sacrifices, and put myself through a lot of physical and mental stress, but always with the determination to never give up. Attending West Point would totally change my life, living in a totally different country, mentality and culture to the one I’m used to, and I’m very excited about this new adventure, even if I don’t get in, this experience made me mature a lot as a person. I read U.S. newspapers, watch TV, YouTube videos, and I’ve been constantly connected whit the U.S. and for me living there for real would feel both exciting and natural at the same time. As said before I sacrificed a lot of my free time, I had to argue a lot whit my parents (now they support me), I invested my pocket money to buy books or tools to be better prepared for the SAT and the CFA, I had to cope whit the constant fear that this work could vanish for some bureaucratic snags, but there has never been a moment I doubt about my decision because is this what I want to do in my life.

Ps: I have a plan B and C if I don’t get in. My father is in the Army so I’m already used to the “Military mentality” and to a strict discipline (EX: clean my room every morning and so on …..), I feel that I can survive West Point because I can adapt EX: I fail in my math class, I will use all my free time until I make it (I'm already doing this at school).
 
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If you are attending the best university in Europe why do you want to attend WP and become an officer in the US Army? What are your long term goals? Receiving an appointment to a SA is so much more complex than just being academically strong, ahead in Math or getting good SAT scores.

I have US and German citizenship (I was born and grew up in the US w/ American mother, German father). My German citizenship was practical when I lived in Germany in terms of having less bureaucracy to deal with but other than that it was "just on paper" and not in my heart. I don't FEEL German. I am an American. As a US citizen you are allowed to apply to WP but I do hope you FEEL American.

It is very difficult to get an appointment to any of the SAs. I am not an admissions expert so I have no idea if your unique background will make your application stronger or weaker than that of your competition. All applicants need to work on their plan B,C, D.... If your uni is one of the best in Europe it probably offers incredible exchange programs with other universities in the US and world wide.

(Also, do you have dual citizenship? You will have to renounce the citizenship of your home country if you get an appt at WP.)
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Great point, you see in all these years despite having no one or anything directly connecting me whit the United States I always felt an American, I consider being a U.S. citizen as a privilege. I want to use this opportunity that life gave me to serve my country and prove that despite the distance being a citizen of the United States of America is an honor, like a fire that burns inside of you, a force that makes your heartbeat when you listen to The Star-Spangled Banner, something that makes you proud of being part of a country made of different people that despite their backgrounds, religion, gender or race share the same dream and work together under the same flag. I want to do a job where I move to different countries and I’m constantly challenged, where I work in team and I can use my passions and skills for the benefit of this country. If I will ever get in I want to pursue a military career, I already envision myself as a U.S. commissioned officer and a Cadet. I firmly believe in the sense of legality, justice, and democracy, for me, it is a mission to serve my country, I have made many sacrifices, and put myself through a lot of physical and mental stress, but always with the determination to never give up. Attending West Point would totally change my life, living in a totally different country, mentality and culture to the one I’m used to, and I’m very excited about this new adventure, even if I don’t get in, this experience made me mature a lot as a person.
 
If you are attending the best university in Europe why do you want to attend WP and become an officer in the US Army? What are your long term goals? Receiving an appointment to a SA is so much more complex than just being academically strong, ahead in Math or getting good SAT scores.

I have US and German citizenship (I was born and grew up in the US w/ American mother, German father). My German citizenship was practical when I lived in Germany in terms of having less bureaucracy to deal with but other than that it was "just on paper" and not in my heart. I don't FEEL German. I am an American. As a US citizen you are allowed to apply to WP but I do hope you FEEL American.

It is very difficult to get an appointment to any of the SAs. I am not an admissions expert so I have no idea if your unique background will make your application stronger or weaker than that of your competition. All applicants need to work on their plan B,C, D.... If your uni is one of the best in Europe it probably offers incredible exchange programs with other universities in the US and world wide.

(Also, do you have dual citizenship? You will have to renounce the citizenship of your home country if you get an appt at WP.)
I read U.S. newspapers, watch TV, YouTube videos, and I’ve been constantly connected whit the U.S. and for me living there for real would feel both exciting and natural at the same time. As said before I sacrificed a lot of my free time, I had to argue a lot whit my parents (now they support me), I invested my pocket money to buy books or tools to be better prepared for the SAT and the CFA, I had to cope whit the constant fear that this work could vanish for some bureaucratic snags, but there has never been a moment I doubt about my decision because is this what I want to do in my life.

Ps: I have a plan B and C if I don’t get in. My father is in the Army so I’m already used to the “Military mentality” and to a strict discipline (EX: clean my room every morning and so on …..), I feel that I can survive West Point because I can adapt EX: I fail in my math class, I will use all my free time until I make it (I'm already doing this at school).
 
I never attended and American School, but by converting my grades,contextualizing and describing accurately the situation I hope to give them a clearer Idea (My math teacher said that here the program is 2-3 years ahead of the U.S. by watching samples of the SAT and official programs of U.S. High Schools). Obviously this doesn't mean that I will let my guard down and/or underestimate the SAT.
Please understand that the SAT is most definitely not indicative of the Math program in US High Schools. For example, the SAT does not include Trigonometry or Calculus while many American High School Students will study one or both of these while in High School.
 
I read U.S. newspapers, watch TV, YouTube videos, and I’ve been constantly connected whit the U.S. and for me living there for real would feel both exciting and natural at the same time. As said before I sacrificed a lot of my free time, I had to argue a lot whit my parents (now they support me), I invested my pocket money to buy books or tools to be better prepared for the SAT and the CFA, I had to cope whit the constant fear that this work could vanish for some bureaucratic snags, but there has never been a moment I doubt about my decision because is this what I want to do in my life.

Ps: I have a plan B and C if I don’t get in. My father is in the Army so I’m already used to the “Military mentality” and to a strict discipline (EX: clean my room every morning and so on …..), I feel that I can survive West Point because I can adapt EX: I fail in my math class, I will use all my free time until I make it (I'm already doing this at school).
You should consider enlisting to see what the US military is all about and you can still apply to WP from there. It would probably simplify the the application process. Good luck to you.
 
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Great point, you see in all these years despite having no one or anything directly connecting me whit the United States I always felt an American, I consider being a U.S. citizen as a privilege. I want to use this opportunity that life gave me to serve my country and prove that despite the distance being a citizen of the United States of America is an honor, like a fire that burns inside of you, a force that makes your heartbeat when you listen to The Star-Spangled Banner, something that makes you proud of being part of a country made of different people that despite their backgrounds, religion, gender or race share the same dream and work together under the same flag. I want to do a job where I move to different countries and I’m constantly challenged, where I work in team and I can use my passions and skills for the benefit of this country. If I will ever get in I want to pursue a military career, I already envision myself as a U.S. commissioned officer and a Cadet. I firmly believe in the sense of legality, justice, and democracy, for me, it is a mission to serve my country, I have made many sacrifices, and put myself through a lot of physical and mental stress, but always with the determination to never give up. Attending West Point would totally change my life, living in a totally different country, mentality and culture to the one I’m used to, and I’m very excited about this new adventure, even if I don’t get in, this experience made me mature a lot as a person.
I admire your patriotism and passion towards serving in the military despite living in a foreign country for that long. Good luck with your application and I hope you become a great officer in the United States Military
 
Please understand that the SAT is most definitely not indicative of the Math program in US High Schools. For example, the SAT does not include Trigonometry or Calculus while many American High School Students will study one or both of these while in High School.
Please understand that the SAT is most definitely not indicative of the Math program in US High Schools. For example, the SAT does not include Trigonometry or Calculus while many American High School Students will study one or both of these while in High School.
thanks for the information
 
I admire your patriotism and passion towards serving in the military despite living in a foreign country for that long. Good luck with your application and I hope you become a great officer in the United States Military
Thank you very much
 
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Great point, you see in all these years despite having no one or anything directly connecting me whit the United States I always felt an American, I consider being a U.S. citizen as a privilege. I want to use this opportunity that life gave me to serve my country and prove that despite the distance being a citizen of the United States of America is an honor, like a fire that burns inside of you, a force that makes your heartbeat when you listen to The Star-Spangled Banner, something that makes you proud of being part of a country made of different people that despite their backgrounds, religion, gender or race share the same dream and work together under the same flag. I want to do a job where I move to different countries and I’m constantly challenged, where I work in team and I can use my passions and skills for the benefit of this country. If I will ever get in I want to pursue a military career, I already envision myself as a U.S. commissioned officer and a Cadet. I firmly believe in the sense of legality, justice, and democracy, for me, it is a mission to serve my country, I have made many sacrifices, and put myself through a lot of physical and mental stress, but always with the determination to never give up. Attending West Point would totally change my life, living in a totally different country, mentality and culture to the one I’m used to, and I’m very excited about this new adventure, even if I don’t get in, this experience made me mature a lot as a person.
What’s your primary objective in life (you don’t have to answer this)? From your notes above, I’ve read, “my case is peculiar.” I think it’s also complex. If you really want to serve in the US Army as an officer, enlist. This will streamline you to the door, pass through the door, and become a US Army Soldier. There’s an Army Recruiter in your base. Only contract combat service support occupations not combat arms (chaplain assistant vs Airborne Ranger) to maximize your academic pursuits. Once settled, you have three options.
1. Green to Gold. This program allows you to participate in Army ROTC in the US. If accepted, you can report to the college in the fall or spring semester.
2. OCS. Officer Candidate School. Once you apply, you will be “boarded” by a panel of officers. If accepted, you will be scheduled for an OCS class in Fort Benning, GA.
3. US Military Academy Prep School (USMAPS). You have to apply for this school. Your unit commander has to sign the application.
All three options above require you to be an excellent Soldier... “go to” Soldier by your squad members, platoon leader, and company commander. How? Highly motivated, first in fitness, not late in formations, no DUIs. Don’t be like that movie character Forest Gump ... maybe LT Dan. With option 3, a Soldier in my unit reported to MAPS after returning from OIF 3. And during a patrol in SFQC, the instructor halted the patrol, told two teammates to shower, pack their bags, and report to MAPS. Hope this helps.
 
What’s your primary objective in life (you don’t have to answer this)? From your notes above, I’ve read, “my case is peculiar.” I think it’s also complex. If you really want to serve in the US Army as an officer, enlist. This will streamline you to the door, pass through the door, and become a US Army Soldier. There’s an Army Recruiter in your base. Only contract combat service support occupations not combat arms (chaplain assistant vs Airborne Ranger) to maximize your academic pursuits. Once settled, you have three options.
1. Green to Gold. This program allows you to participate in Army ROTC in the US. If accepted, you can report to the college in the fall or spring semester.
2. OCS. Officer Candidate School. Once you apply, you will be “boarded” by a panel of officers. If accepted, you will be scheduled for an OCS class in Fort Benning, GA.
3. US Military Academy Prep School (USMAPS). You have to apply for this school. Your unit commander has to sign the application.
All three options above require you to be an excellent Soldier... “go to” Soldier by your squad members, platoon leader, and company commander. How? Highly motivated, first in fitness, not late in formations, no DUIs. Don’t be like that movie character Forest Gump ... maybe LT Dan. With option 3, a Soldier in my unit reported to MAPS after returning from OIF 3. And during a patrol in SFQC, the instructor halted the patrol, told two teammates to shower, pack their bags, and report to MAPS. Hope this helps.
I will give it a look, but in my case, it will be difficult both due to the distance and the fact that I’m a civilian living hundreds of Km from the nearest U.S. military base in my country. One option I was considering if I don’t get into West Point is to do the OCS after University, but for now, I will focus on West Point.
Anyway, thank you for the information.
 
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