Army 4yr ROTC scholarship award

[Kapast74]

I am curious as to my son's chances of securing a 4yr scholarship award. Going into his high school senior yr. Here are his stats:
ACT 30
GPA 3.55
4yrs football(2varsity)
President of 3 clubs at high school
Boys State participant. Elected to 4 offices
Volunteers once a week at hospital
Volunteer work at V.A. Fresh. Yr
PT Test. 58 pushups 55 sit ups 6:30 mile
WANTS TO ATTEND :
VMI , CITADEL,TEXAS A&M, OR VIRGINIA TECH.
Thanks for input and advice

 

[MidCakePa]

No one here knows. Please sift through the many threads (there are a lot!) where candidates (or their parents) ask, “chance me, please.” You will see very consistent comments re “can’t tell you” and “zero chance if you don’t apply.”

So just two bits: (1) Look up USMA’s Class of 2022 profile and you’ll see stats that will give you a decent idea of how your son measures up. No, it’s not a perfect comparison, but remember that the vast majority of West Point cadets also applied for ROTC scholarships, and many received them. (2) Make sure that extracurriculars demonstrate “leadership impact,” not just titles, participation or volunteer hours.

Best wishes to you.

 

[FutureSoldier44]

I would say he has pretty good chances, however; it does vary on the year because the selection process relies on the Order of Merit List (OML). Which basically means that the scores necessary are different every year because it depends on the scores that the other candidates have. So the scores needed always vary based on the scores of the other candidates.

 

[Kapast74]

I would say he has pretty good chances, however; it does vary on the year because the selection process relies on the Order of Merit List (OML). Which basically means that the scores necessary are different every year because it depends on the scores that the other candidates have. So the scores needed always vary based on the scores of the other candidates.

Thanks!

 

[Kapast74]

I would say he has pretty good chances, however; it does vary on the year because the selection process relies on the Order of Merit List (OML). Which basically means that the scores necessary are different every year because it depends on the scores that the other candidates have. So the scores needed always vary based on the scores of the other candidates.

I understand. Thanks!

 

[hhucks4]

I would say he has pretty good chances, however; it does vary on the year because the selection process relies on the Order of Merit List (OML). Which basically means that the scores necessary are different every year because it depends on the scores that the other candidates have. So the scores needed always vary based on the scores of the other candidates.

I understand. Thanks!

I got a 4 year to Clemson, USC, and the citadel and I had the same act, a 3.4 with 71 push ups, 82 sit-ups and a 6:35 so I’d say you have a good chance. I played a ton of sports in high school like football, track and field, and golf, encourage him to give it his all, without affecting his grades that is, in sports because it makes a difference, for instance they ask if you won any awards or were all-region, lowerstate or state.

 

[Kapast74]

I would say he has pretty good chances, however; it does vary on the year because the selection process relies on the Order of Merit List (OML). Which basically means that the scores necessary are different every year because it depends on the scores that the other candidates have. So the scores needed always vary based on the scores of the other candidates.

I understand. Thanks!

I got a 4 year to Clemson, USC, and the citadel and I had the same act, a 3.4 with 71 push ups, 82 sit-ups and a 6:35 so I’d say you have a good chance. I played a ton of sports in high school like football, track and field, and golf, encourage him to give it his all, without affecting his grades that is, in sports because it makes a difference, for instance they ask if you won any awards or were all-region, lowerstate or state.

THANKS! I am glad to hear of this. My local university rep said the GPA for 4yr scholarship tend to be at or near 4.0. which caused me to second guess my chances. My son is athletic enough(quite physically fit) but does not excel in sports.
We are shooting for an interview 1st week of Sept to qualify for 1st board. Hopefully he can get a 3 or 4 yr. award in one of the three boards. Fingers crossed!

 

[hhucks4]

I would say he has pretty good chances, however; it does vary on the year because the selection process relies on the Order of Merit List (OML). Which basically means that the scores necessary are different every year because it depends on the scores that the other candidates have. So the scores needed always vary based on the scores of the other candidates.

I understand. Thanks!

I got a 4 year to Clemson, USC, and the citadel and I had the same act, a 3.4 with 71 push ups, 82 sit-ups and a 6:35 so I’d say you have a good chance. I played a ton of sports in high school like football, track and field, and golf, encourage him to give it his all, without affecting his grades that is, in sports because it makes a difference, for instance they ask if you won any awards or were all-region, lowerstate or state.

THANKS! I am glad to hear of this. My local university rep said the GPA for 4yr scholarship tend to be at or near 4.0. which caused me to second guess my chances. My son is athletic enough(quite physically fit) but does not excel in sports.
We are shooting for an interview 1st week of Sept to qualify for 1st board. Hopefully he can get a 3 or 4 yr. award in one of the three boards. Fingers crossed!

Interview is the most important part of the application in my opinion, if he does well in the interview it’ll really heighten your chances.

 

[MidCakePa]

More important than GPA is class rank. Your DS’s 3.55 or the university rep’s 4.00 are all relative. It’s best to be in top 10% of the class (there will be scholarship recipients who are lower, of course, but they will have compensating factors).

 

[Kapast74]

More important than GPA is class rank. Your DS’s 3.55 or the university rep’s 4.00 are all relative. It’s best to be in top 10% of the class (there will be scholarship recipients who are lower, of course, but they will have compensating factors).

No class ranking but it is a challenging high school top ten in New Jersey. Coursework is difficult.

 

[FutureSoldier44]

THANKS! I am glad to hear of this. My local university rep said the GPA for 4yr scholarship tend to be at or near 4.0. which caused me to second guess my chances. My son is athletic enough(quite physically fit) but does not excel in sports.
We are shooting for an interview 1st week of Sept to qualify for 1st board. Hopefully he can get a 3 or 4 yr. award in one of the three boards. Fingers crossed!

Also, do not get discouraged if not chosen for the 1st board. They only hand out about 200 of the roughly 2,000 scholarships in the first board, so you still have great chances of getting chosen in the second or third boards because they hand out the majority of the scholarships through there. I did not get chosen until the third round and ended up getting a 3 year but the University of Wyoming ended up paying for the first year. So once again, do not be discouraged if you do not get the first round.

 

[migs]

Good luck. He has solid resume but like many here have said it varies from year to year. One thing for sure, he has no chance if he doesn’t try!

 

[Dckc88]

OP - I noticed you brought it up already, the three year advanced designee is also an option besides the 4 year award, and the Army is handing more of those out these days and less 4 years. Another poster brought up campus based options as well. His schools are very popular for scholarship recipients, but as said before zero chance if he doesn’t apply. Another piece of the puzzle is the survey given to each candidate - it is a big factor. His file will definitely show a kid who has been very involved and successful in his involvement, which lends well tot he “whole person score” that is used to rank applicants. Because of this, the interview and the survey will be big factors too. Here is a blog post from a ROO who frequents this board that explains the whole person score. The breakdowns might have change, but it will really explain why NONE of us can truly tell you what his chance is.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/golden.../07/13/the-whole-person-score-what-is-it/amp/

A few years ago from reading the stats on this forum I really thought my diaghter had little chance, good thing the board scoring her file felt differently because she received a 3 year AD scholarship for AROTC on the 3rd board. Probably had a lot to do with those stats we cannot see, and that no one knows. She is a rising junior and definitely looking forward to her next chapter, however I remember clearly the anticipation, waiting and second guessing of the scholarship process very well! Good luck to you and your son and please keep us posted!

 

[CitadelN88]

Looks like a strong candidate - excellent taste in schools. Good luck.