Army Combatives Competition

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  1. USMCGrunt

    USMCGrunt 5-Year Member

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    Very interesting video on the Army's Combatives competition at Ft. Bragg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkzD3x4TN8o

    Brings to mind many of the boxing "smokers" I attended over the years. These events can be a great motivator and team builder for units.

    On the other hand, I was always a little conflicted when you pull guys out to focus solely on competition (rifle/ pistol teams, sports, etc). There has to be some balance on the goal of achieving elite competitors and unit/ branch pride and remembering the job everyone is ultimately training to do.

    I would rather see the skill (marksmanship, hand-to-hand, other) worked throughout the organization so that the entire organization rises in awareness and skillset. Have tournaments where the best compete but stop short of forming full-time competitors. Sure, the competition won't be as good but that shouldn't be the goal anyway.
     
  2. Jcc123

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    Agree to a point. Outfits like the marksmanship team at Benning or any of the WCAP teams are great recruiting tools, and the numbers aren't so great that it detracts from readiness. I always enjoy seeing athletes at the Olympics that are also soldiers. It showcases that we've got some pretty impressive talent in the ranks.
     
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    USMCGrunt 5-Year Member

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    Me too! That is why I am conflicted on this - I take great pride when I see a military member of the Olympic team or whatever. And it is great recruiting just like the bands, etc. - all of these showcase events appeal to a certain segment of the general population.
     
  4. -Bull-

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    I'm not quite sure about the combatives, but the Army marksmanship unit does quite a bit more than just shoot competitions, though I do understand what you were saying Grunt. The AMU does a lot of training soldiers, developing new techniques and weapon systems, and then recruiting.
     
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    Can't speak for the whole AMU, but I knew a AMU member, officer, that won an Olympic bronze medal, that had a normal military career. It's normal for Army officers to spent some time away from troops.
     
  6. MedB

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    Outstanding video, and outstanding competition. These are the types of athletic events in the military that should never be cut back due to funding issues.
     
  7. scoutpilot

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    Yeah, where would we be without our niche trophy competitions?
     
  8. MedB

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    More prepared to fight and win than if we only funded less role-relevant sports instead?

    In a perfect world with unlimited budgets we would want it all right? But I don't know many folks who live there. So if we have to make a choice , seems to me competitions like Best Ranger, Crossfit, Spartan Warrior, Combat Shooting, Adventure Racing, Combatives, etc etc should not be the ones on the chopping block.
     
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  9. scoutpilot

    scoutpilot 5-Year Member

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    If the choice is between operational capability, training dollars, or sports competitions, the latter of the three goes first.
     
  10. Ice64

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    Did you mean to say the "former". The latter would be sports competitions in your sentence if I correctly remember my grammar.
     
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    That's exactly what I meant. Sports competitions are the first to go.

    Though technically I should've said "among" and not between.
     
  12. Ice64

    Ice64 5-Year Member

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    I still need to learn how to read. I originally thought you were stating that sports COME first. I agree with you that sports have the least importance compared to the other two categories.
    I may swear off sports completely after enduring another Army fumble in a crucial situation last Saturday.
     

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