Army ROTC 2022-2023 2nd Board

[JohnMcLane]

If you are ecp you'll commission after sophomore year so you can't get an additional ROTC scholarship. You will likely be in the NG and might be able to get state tuition assistance but that might obligate you to the Guard which is great if you don't want active duty. There is also a GI Bill which may come into play. To get any benefits from the Guard you will likely have to attend your basic officer course which will make you miss at least a semester but put some cash in your pocket. If you have designs on Active Duty you will likely have to stay in the branch you went to basic in. This could be good but if you are trying for a popular branch like infantry or cyber and your file is anything less than stellar you could get rejected by that branch and miss Active Duty entirely. If anyone on this forum knows different please provide your thoughts.

You need to have some conversations with the Cadre and some grads from Valley Forge.

There are exceptions. I know someone who was ecp, resigned commission, went to West Point, and ultimately retired as a full bird colonel.....in the Marines!

 

[AAAdad]

Earned a 4 year to Texas A&M and Virginia Tech! I have already accepted my appointment to West Point though. Does anyone know if I’m allowed to still accept the scholarship in case of injury and then rescind after R-day?

If you have already accepted to USMA - and you are trying to use this as an insurance policy - I'm curious as to what injury / circumstance would preclude you from an academy and not still be considered as a similar challenge with ROTC?

I would not advocate for this route if you already accepted your appointment to USMA. If you are having second thoughts of USMA - that's different. But, it feels selfish to me when you know this is not your true intent.

Congrats on the USMA and on the 4-year - those are both outstanding accomplishments!

 

[NCL04]

If you have already accepted to USMA - and you are trying to use this as an insurance policy - I'm curious as to what injury / circumstance would preclude you from an academy and not still be considered as a similar challenge with ROTC?

I would not advocate for this route if you already accepted your appointment to USMA. If you are having second thoughts of USMA - that's different. But, it feels selfish to me when you know this is not your true intent.

Congrats on the USMA and on the 4-year - those are both outstanding accomplishments!

From what I understand, I can’t report to R-day with any injuries which would include but is not limited to broken bones and what not. My thought process was going along the lines of it I somehow get injured in the weeks/months leading up to R-day and cannot therefore show up, if I can still accept the ROTC scholarship because the injury has healed.

Not sure if you can follow my logic there but it really is just a backup plan in case something happens.

I’m having no second thoughts about USMA and am pumped to go, I just want to make sure in case something happens that I have a way towards service.

To reiterate, accepting the scholarship would be a backup plan and I would rescind my acceptance after R-day. My question was am I able to have the accepted scholarship and then rescind after R-day?

 

[ow_fish]

Question for anyone here who might know: if i accept my AROTC Scholarship to a specific school like required, will the other 2 schools be made aware I didn’t choose them? I’m talking to all 3 of my scholarship schools in different capacities than just ROTC, and I’m afraid if they see I didn’t choose them that might turn them off me a little bit.

 

[BackofBeyond]

My DS received a 4-yr Army ROTC Scholarship yesterday for VMI, The Citadel, and UTK (Univ of TN (Knoxville)). I'd call it the 2nd board...but he didn't have everything submitted early enough for the 1st board.

It's an honor (I'm combat vet) to see my DS achieve this. He's LOE/NWL West Point and all green for USAFA w/a MOC nom for both.

4-yr Army ROTC Scholarship is just as exciting and as big as an honor as entering one of our Service Academies.

Good luck to all of the ROTC scholarship recipients. You should all feel honored that this opportunity exists for you.

 

[KingZunzie]

My DS got a scholarship to participate in the ECP program (Ike Skelton scholarship) and to attend one of the 4 military Jr colleges. We have been doing some research on this program and it is not something that he is interested in. He has to decline or except before March 5, so before the 3rd board meets. If he declines does he still have a chance for a 3 or 4 year scholarship? I know he did not opt for this on his application.

Yes. His declining the ECP program has no bearing on his standing on the OML.

 

[Ranger1015]

I got a scholarship but my thing said “interview pending” the whole time.

Yes ours said interview pending, even though after the interview he was moved to board ready. The original banner did say dashboard updates were not being updated properly and to disregard.

 

[coloradoskier]

My DS awarded a 4-year to his 2 top schools, The University of Oklahoma and Embry-Riddle. Still waiting on decisions from all 3 SA’s.

I won a 3 year and will be attending University of Oklahoma next year!

 

[MohawkArmyROTC]

I was offered an ECP 4-year scholarship (tuition + R&B) to Valley Forge Military Academy!
Does that mean I will likely receive a regular 4-year next board, or does it mean I am not likely to? I am aware that the one I was offered is an amazing scholarship, and I feel very honored, but I am just wondering why did they offer me that instead of a regular 4-year at my intended university.
Also, if I now accept this offer, will I not be considered for a regular 4-year scholarship in the 3rd board?
Thanks for any info you guys can give on the topic.

The ECP scholarship is for 2yrs at a Junior Military college. You earn your associates and are commissioned into the reserve/guard after two years. You then have to complete your undergrad at another school. It is not likely to be able to go onto active duty as an ECP cadet. Only accept the ECP scholarship if you want to go to a junior military college and want to commission into the reserve.

No you will not be offered a 4YR scholarship after the 3rd board. The top 1000 get a 4yr, they next 1000 after them get a 3yr. Those offered an ECP are projected to fall short of the cutoff for a 3YR scholarship.

 

[MohawkArmyROTC]

After the board started in my application status I was boarded but two days ago I swapped from boarded to boarded/UC. Everything I’ve seen means that that means I didn’t receive anything and have moved onto the third board. Is there any way I could still receive a scholarship this board but it’s just taking time ? My stats are in line with other winners I’ve read about on here.

No, you did not get selected for a scholarship this board. All selectees were updated to "Winner" last THU. The portal can be wonky at times with the other status. Good luck on the selections after the third board.

 

[Momtomany]

The ECP scholarship is for 2yrs at a Junior Military college. You earn your associates and are commissioned into the reserve/guard after two years. You then have to complete your undergrad at another school. It is not likely to be able to go onto active duty as an ECP cadet. Only accept the ECP scholarship if you want to go to a junior military college and want to commission into the reserve.

No you will not be offered a 4YR scholarship after the 3rd board. The top 1000 get a 4yr, they next 1000 after them get a 3yr. Those offered an ECP are projected to fall short of the cutoff for a 3YR scholarship.

Can you please elaborate on what exactly you mean by “falling short”? Is it one particular area or overall? My ds was offered and declined this scholarship to keep himself in the running for hopefully a National Scholarship. The Roo at his # 1 school recommended he decline it as well as they told him they felt he was “competitive” for the National scholarship. Are there any stats on this at all? Thank you!!

 

[BMRSNR]

I won a 3 year and will be attending University of Oklahoma next year!

Congrats, Boomer!

 

[aetosArmy]

The ECP scholarship is for 2yrs at a Junior Military college. You earn your associates and are commissioned into the reserve/guard after two years. You then have to complete your undergrad at another school. It is not likely to be able to go onto active duty as an ECP cadet. Only accept the ECP scholarship if you want to go to a junior military college and want to commission into the reserve.

No you will not be offered a 4YR scholarship after the 3rd board. The top 1000 get a 4yr, they next 1000 after them get a 3yr. Those offered an ECP are projected to fall short of the cutoff for a 3YR scholarship.

Thanks for the info. I wonder though, how sure can you be that I won't be offered a 3-yr or 4-yr, because I've heard people say they were offered the MJC scholarship in the first board, and then in the second board got a 4-yr.
Just as a background, my Roo at my top school described my file as "incredibly competitive".
(SAT 1480, GPA 3.7)

 

[Momtomany]

Thanks for the info. I wonder though, how sure can you be that I won't be offered a 3-yr or 4-yr, because I've heard people say they were offered the MJC scholarship in the first board, and then in the second board got a 4-yr.
Just as a background, my Roo at my top school described my file as "incredibly competitive".
(SAT 1480, GPA 3.7)

Wondering the same! My ds was offered this after first board and was told similar by his #1 Roo. My son with pretty good stats too (3.92 unweighted gpa, 1370 SAT). We are holding out hope and he has been accepted to his #1 school as well…Good Luck to you!!

 

[aetosArmy]

Wondering the same! My ds was offered this after first board and was told similar by his #1 Roo. My son with pretty good stats too (3.92 unweighted gpa, 1370 SAT). We are holding out hope and he has been accepted to his #1 school as well…Good Luck to you!!

Thanks, best of luck to your son too!

 

[rotcmom2022]

Will the DODMERB info come by mail or will it be uploaded to the portal? How long does that process usually take to get medically cleared?

 

[BlueHen2005]

Will the DODMERB info come by mail or will it be uploaded to the portal? How long does that process usually take to get medically cleared?

1st step is ROTC requests a medical review to DoDMERB. This goes to DoDMETS which is the agency that organizes the medical questionnaire and exams. DODMets will send a link to your candidate instructing them to complete the medical packet. Once the packet is completed and signed, you then schedule your vision and medical exams at the sites chosen by DoDMETS. The physicians send their reports to DoDMETS. DoDMETS sends the reports to DoDMERB.

I can’t give you a good timeline, other than it took about two weeks from receiving the link from DoDMETS to DoDMETS receiving the exams. DD was stuck for at least two months because of the DoDMERB system crash.

 

[rotcmom2022]

1st step is ROTC requests a medical review to DoDMERB. This goes to DoDMETS which is the agency that organizes the medical questionnaire and exams. DODMets will send a link to your candidate instructing them to complete the medical packet. Once the packet is completed and signed, you then schedule your vision and medical exams at the sites chosen by DoDMETS. The physicians send their reports to DoDMETS. DoDMETS sends the reports to DoDMERB.

I can’t give you a good timeline, other than it took about two weeks from receiving the link from DoDMETS to DoDMETS receiving the exams. DD was stuck for at least two months because of the DoDMERB system crash.

Thank you! But we should keep an eye put for the link to get the process started?

 

[MohawkArmyROTC]

Thanks for the info. I wonder though, how sure can you be that I won't be offered a 3-yr or 4-yr, because I've heard people say they were offered the MJC scholarship in the first board, and then in the second board got a 4-yr.
Just as a background, my Roo at my top school described my file as "incredibly competitive".
(SAT 1480, GPA 3.7)

@AetosSA @Momtomany

I am not here to burst bubbles, but I am a pragmatic person and want to provide realistic expectation management. I can be very sure, in that the Scholarship Program Manager at Cadet Command briefs the ROOs in my BDE every year on the National HS Scholarship Process. Typically, the top 1000 students get a 4yr, the next 2000 are offered a 3YR, then the next 1000 are offered a 2yr MJC scholarship. Offers made prior to the 3rd board, are based on your projected place on the OML based on historical numbers. If offered a 2yr scholarship, you are projected to have a lower OML score than those who will receive a 3YR offer. However you could be high enough that when all applicants are boarded, that you actually had a score high enough for a 3yr scholarship, just as some 3YR offers will be upgraded to a 4YR, as they actually placed in the top 1000. Based on this, I find it extremely unlikely that anyone offered a 2YR has later been offered a 4YR scholarship.

The GPA/SAT scores you have listed are highly competitive compared to the past winners. However, that is only one small portion of the Whole Person Score (WPS) that is used for scholarship selection. The WPS breaks down as follows:

Board: 350 (25%)
SAT/ACT: 249 (18%)
Cadet Background Experience Form (CBEF): 250 (18%)
Extracurricular Activities (SAL): 201 (14%)
PMS Interview: 200 (14%) [GPA + SAT account for either 0, 20, or 40 pts of these 200, you would've received the full 40 on your scores]
Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA): 150 (11%)

When it comes down to it, GPA+SAT only accounts for around 25% of the WPS. So there are many candidates with excellent academic achievements that do not receive a scholarship offer. The PMS interview tends to have a significant influence in overall OML results in that tends to be the tie breaker among candidates, plus the PMS selects whether to recommend the applicant for a scholarship or not, and that PMS interview influences the scholarship board members in the points that they assign to the applicant.

I do hope that you end up being high enough on the OML to get a 3yr scholarship, but my goal on these forums is to provide accurate, unbiased information. Makes sure you are in contact with the ROO at the school you want to attend, as some schools are given a hip pocket 3yr scholarship after the board process to give it out to whomever they want. I tend to give my hip pocket scholarship to a non-selected national applicant that I have been in good communication with, as they have the interest and I already have access to all of their relevant information. I am sure other ROOs do the same.

 

[JohnMcLane]

@AetosSA @Momtomany

I am not here to burst bubbles, but I am a pragmatic person and want to provide realistic expectation management. I can be very sure, in that the Scholarship Program Manager at Cadet Command briefs the ROOs in my BDE every year on the National HS Scholarship Process. Typically, the top 1000 students get a 4yr, the next 2000 are offered a 3YR, then the next 1000 are offered a 2yr MJC scholarship. Offers made prior to the 3rd board, are based on your projected place on the OML based on historical numbers. If offered a 2yr scholarship, you are projected to have a lower OML score than those who will receive a 3YR offer. However you could be high enough that when all applicants are boarded, that you actually had a score high enough for a 3yr scholarship, just as some 3YR offers will be upgraded to a 4YR, as they actually placed in the top 1000. Based on this, I find it extremely unlikely that anyone offered a 2YR has later been offered a 4YR scholarship.

The GPA/SAT scores you have listed are highly competitive compared to the past winners. However, that is only one small portion of the Whole Person Score (WPS) that is used for scholarship selection. The WPS breaks down as follows:

Board: 350 (25%)
SAT/ACT: 249 (18%)
Cadet Background Experience Form (CBEF): 250 (18%)
Extracurricular Activities (SAL): 201 (14%)
PMS Interview: 200 (14%) [GPA + SAT account for either 0, 20, or 40 pts of these 200, you would've received the full 40 on your scores]
Physical Fitness Assessment (PFA): 150 (11%)

When it comes down to it, GPA+SAT only accounts for around 25% of the WPS. So there are many candidates with excellent academic achievements that do not receive a scholarship offer. The PMS interview tends to have a significant influence in overall OML results in that tends to be the tie breaker among candidates, plus the PMS selects whether to recommend the applicant for a scholarship or not, and that PMS interview influences the scholarship board members in the points that they assign to the applicant.

I do hope that you end up being high enough on the OML to get a 3yr scholarship, but my goal on these forums is to provide accurate, unbiased information. Makes sure you are in contact with the ROO at the school you want to attend, as some schools are given a hip pocket 3yr scholarship after the board process to give it out to whomever they want. I tend to give my hip pocket scholarship to a non-selected national applicant that I have been in good communication with, as they have the interest and I already have access to all of their relevant information. I am sure other ROOs do the same.

Question: DS has a friend who is exceptionally well-qualified but who apparently did not complete an application for a 4-year national scholarship BUT (and this is hearsay from my DS) the ROTC unit at the school she is planning on attending has offered her a 3-year scholarship. Does this sound right? Insight into this particular process would be appreciated.