ARMY ROTC scholarship

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My daughter has these stats:
1. SAT 1430
2. Weighted GPA 4.15, unweighted 3.8
3. Good essay with extra activities. Run sports club since 9th grade.
4. Physical test scores - ROTC
sits up: 61 in 1 min
push-ups: 21 in 1 min
Mile run: 8.03

Which schools are good for her for the ROTC scholarship?
 
2023 said:
My daughter has these stats:
1. SAT 1430
2. Weighted GPA 4.15, unweighted 3.8
3. Good essay with extra activities. Run sports club since 9th grade.
4. Physical test scores - ROTC
sits up: 61 in 1 min
push-ups: 21 in 1 min
Mile run: 8.03

Which schools are good for her for the ROTC scholarship?
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The scholarship possibility and schools are two separate choices. A scholarship winner can apply the scholarship anywhere that has ROTC program. Choosing a school is a personal choice.
 
gooseblitz said:
A scholarship winner can apply the scholarship anywhere that has ROTC program
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Lest someone misunderstand this true statement, let me expand on it.

AFROTC - you CAN actually use it at any college with an AFROTC program to which you've been accepted.

NROTC & AROTC - You can use it at one of the assigned school(s) to which you've been accepted. The schools are selected from the applicant's preferred list of schools. You can attempt to transfer the scholarship to another college.
 
gooseblitz said:
The scholarship possibility and schools are two separate choices. A scholarship winner can apply the scholarship anywhere that has ROTC program. Choosing a school is a personal choice.
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Thank you Gooseblitz and Kinnem.
I forgot to mention one point, my daughter already got Westpoint LOE as well. What are the chances that she would make it to USMA with above credentials?
 
kinnem said:
Lest someone misunderstand this true statement, let me expand on it.

AFROTC - you CAN actually use it at any college with an AFROTC program to which you've been accepted.

NROTC & AROTC - You can use it at one of the assigned school(s) to which you've been accepted. The schools are selected from the applicant's preferred list of schools. You can attempt to transfer the scholarship to another college.
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Thank you Gooseblitz and Kinnem.
I forgot to mention one point, my daughter already got Westpoint LOE as well. What are the chances that she would make it to USMA with the above credentials?
 
Well, I personally don't give a lot of weight to an LOE. It means she's competitive, but so are most applicants. It's a good sign, but it's a long road. Keep pushing on all fronts.
 
Your daughter would not have gotten the LOE if she were not competitive. So much depends on your state and district as to West Point Admission. DS is at West Point and had a 1300 SAT and 3.9 unweighted GPA and had significant leadership and athletic accomplishments. He also received an LOE. That said, he did not get a nomination from his congressman or from one of our Senators. He finally received a nomination from the remaining Senator the last 2 weeks of January. As Kinnem said, keep pushing and tend to alternate plans. She is competitive. Good luck!
 
2023 said:
Thank you Gooseblitz and Kinnem.
I forgot to mention one point, my daughter already got Westpoint LOE as well. What are the chances that she would make it to USMA with the above credentials?
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Your daughter sounds competitive with respect to gaining an appointment to USMA. Nobody can tell you her chances except to say that you should compare her to the published statistics. Given that she seems competitive, she should use the LOA (if feasible given your family situation) and she should visit overnight. She'll get a much better idea if WP is a good fit.

Applying and obtaining an appointment is a marathon. Don't expect to find out how it will turn out early - though you never know. Also, you should advise your daughter to continue training for the CFA so that she can score competitively. Her run time and push ups scores seem low. Upper body strength (pull ups) are also important with respect to the CFA. We obviously can't see that from her ROTC testing. Good luck to your daughter.
 
Allectus said:
Your daughter would not have gotten the LOE if she were not competitive. So much depends on your state and district as to West Point Admission. DS is at West Point and had a 1300 SAT and 3.9 unweighted GPA and had significant leadership and athletic accomplishments. He also received an LOE. That said, he did not get a nomination from his congressman or from one of our Senators. He finally received a nomination from the remaining Senator the last 2 weeks of January. As Kinnem said, keep pushing and tend to alternate plans. She is competitive. Good luck!
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Thank you Allectus.
 
dddad said:
Your daughter sounds competitive with respect to gaining an appointment to USMA. Nobody can tell you her chances except to say that you should compare her to the published statistics. Given that she seems competitive, she should use the LOA (if feasible given your family situation) and she should visit overnight. She'll get a much better idea if WP is a good fit.

Applying and obtaining an appointment is a marathon. Don't expect to find out how it will turn out early - though you never know. Also, you should advise your daughter to continue training for the CFA so that she can score competitively. Her run time and push ups scores seem low. Upper body strength (pull ups) are also important with respect to the CFA. We obviously can't see that from her ROTC testing. Good luck to your daughter.
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Thank you dddad.
 
As my kid (the above-mentioned kid) is in a highly competitive school district. So may be not in the top 10% of the class, and not sure about the top 20-25-30-35% of the class. So, would there be any chance?
What if the kid doesn't get the congressman/senator nomination? Still, Can a kid go to a service academy without a nomination?
 
2023 said:
As my kid (the above-mentioned kid) is in a highly competitive school district. So may be not in the top 10% of the class, and not sure about the top 20-25-30-35% of the class. So, would there be any chance?
What if the kid doesn't get the congressman/senator nomination? Still, Can a kid go to a service academy without a nomination?
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I believe a nomination is one of those essential parts of the application that without it, your overall application profile is incomplete. Except in a couple of circumstances, a nomination from congressman, senator, vp is a requirement for the service academies.
 
A nomination is required to be appointed to WP. It may be possible to get a prep school slot without a nomination--not sure. Army Rotc is a good backup plan to a Service Academy. DS wanted a service academy type of experience and applied to The Citadel and VMI--both small schools very focused on a cadet military experience. DS received an Army ROTC scholarship and was deciding between The Citadel and VMI when he received his appointment to West Point. Army ROTC pays tuition and you can apply it to the college who wish to attend that has an Army Rotc unit. I would think your DD would be very competitive for the scholarship. She could then go to a college of her choice and end up in exactly the same place as a Service Academy grad--a Second Lt.
 
With regards to an AROTC scholarship, my son has been accepted to his top choice school and is still waiting on national board scholarship results for this year (did not get selected first board review). How important is it for him to apply/ be accepted to all of the schools on his list? If he were to be so lucky to get a scholarship, do they typically assign it to your first choice school? He is deciding on whether to spend the additional application fees to apply (and likely get into, but still extra money and work) the other schools on his list, or can he skip applying to those schools if he knows he wants to go to his top choice? Do they actually let you switch your scholarship to another school on your list that is preferred if you get one and it’s not to your top choice? I hope this makes sense and thanks so much in advance!!
 
Momtomany said:
With regards to an AROTC scholarship, my son has been accepted to his top choice school and is still waiting on national board scholarship results for this year (did not get selected first board review). How important is it for him to apply/ be accepted to all of the schools on his list? If he were to be so lucky to get a scholarship, do they typically assign it to your first choice school? He is deciding on whether to spend the additional application fees to apply (and likely get into, but still extra money and work) the other schools on his list, or can he skip applying to those schools if he knows he wants to go to his top choice? Do they actually let you switch your scholarship to another school on your list that is preferred if you get one and it’s not to your top choice? I hope this makes sense and thanks so much in advance!!
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Typically those chosen during the first board are offered their top 3 schools. As the results come out for the 2nd and 3rd boards, you may find that they don't always get an offer to their top schools - They may or may not. If they receive the scholarship and are not given an option to the top school, I would NOT assume they can transfer the scholarship to the college they requested but were not given an offer to. When my DS got the AROTC scholarship, it was offered to her #1, #3 and #4 college. At the time she was working out her options as to where she would go and which scholarship offer she would take, she was thinking she really wanted to go to her #2, where she was also offered a full tuition academic scholarship, to see if she could still find a way to have her AROTC transferred there. She was told that she could not. If it were my kid, I would ensure they have applied to at least 3 of the schools on their list, unless son will ONLY go to his top college with or without a scholarship.
 
The assumption of the AROTC decision-makers is that the candidate will have applied to all the schools they listed on the scholarship application. This gives AROTC flexibility to assign the scholarship to any of those schools. The later you receive the scholarship, the less likely it’ll be assigned to your top school choice, due simply to capacity constraints.

A scholarship recipient can request that the assigned school be changed. Makes sense, since there won’t always be a match between assignments and acceptances. Anecdotally here on SAF, those requests are typically granted.
 
USMAROTCFamily said:
Typically those chosen during the first board are offered their top 3 schools. As the results come out for the 2nd and 3rd boards, you may find that they don't always get an offer to their top schools - They may or may not. If they receive the scholarship and are not given an option to the top school, I would NOT assume they can transfer the scholarship to the college they requested but were not given an offer to. When my DS got the AROTC scholarship, it was offered to her #1, #3 and #4 college. At the time she was working out her options as to where she would go and which scholarship offer she would take, she was thinking she really wanted to go to her #2, where she was also offered a full tuition academic scholarship, to see if she could still find a way to have her AROTC transferred there. She was told that she could not. If it were my kid, I would ensure they have applied to at least 3 of the schools on their list, unless son will ONLY go to his top college with or without a scholarship.
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Just a question- if #2 school offered a full tuition academic scholarship and this is DS school of choice, why not take the academic scholarship and drop the ROTC scholarship? DS can always enroll in AROTC w/o a scholarship and have complete flexibility with no obligation (and no risk of a medical issue or physical injury causing him to lose the scholarship over 4 years). Just interested in decision process.
 
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