Discussion in 'ROTC' started by Azmomm, Jul 4, 2011.
Anyone hearing anything from their colleges yet on when to report?
Yes my son got a packet from his AROTC PMS with details of early dorm check in, orientation, PT tests etc., that was 3-4 weeks ago.
Wow - Im disappointed that we havent received any official info. Yesterday, via info from another cadet, we heard that orientation starts on Aug 22. No official word. My D sent email to ROO and is waiting to hear. The two other scholarship cadets she knows, NY and CO, both have not heard either.
BTW, thanks for the reply. Happy 4th
DS received email from PMS regarding HOW to report but there is no need to report early. PMS related that because anticipated personnel needs will be decreasing based on present worldwide events that those who don't show up physically fit could be shown the door sooner than later. PMS basically said there is no reason to coddle anyone that doesn't present in great shape as this will be a very easy way for them to judge your commitment to the program. Also reminded them that readiness is in the control of the student and this first impression will be lasting. PMS very much painted picture such that DS could read. PT three mornings a week at 5:50am.
So.... Two mile run Thursday besides 1 hour playing hockey, 5 hours of teaching tennis and two hours playing tennis. Two mile run Friday even when friend didn't wake up and show up to run - friend said, "You still parked in my driveway and went without me?" Two mile run today, while on vacation. DS knows there's no reason he can't max the PT test and why he shouldn't shoot for the top of the chart for his first impression. Encourage others to do the same.
Heck with the extended scale he should shoot for more than the max. I want my first pt test to be a 305. right now I am at 60 pushups, 85 situps, and 14 min 2 mile. I can do it!
You Go for it!!
DS does know about extended scale but also knows that first timers run up against the higher army standards for form, especially for those push ups and sit ups. You will be a great leader if you can encourage people to push the limits by both example and words. I can hear such encouragement in your "voice" even now.
SaltLife- one way to ensure that you get all sorts of attention is to talk about your performance before hand. The US Merchant Marine Academy shares a motto with the 22d Infantry- in Latin: "Acta non Verba"- in English: "Deeds not Words".
It's good to have goals- it's better to be quiet about them before hand and then demonstrate your performance with little commentary. A 14 min 2 mile is fairly pedestrian and it's a minute slower than the max (13:00)- which is still about a minute slower than the average time my staff was running which took into account a lot of much older officers and NCO's. 60 Pushups is a long way from 75 (22-26 max) and as Paradoxer has pointed out form matters and on your first APFT- form will be everything. don't be surprised if you hear the count sounding something like : "one, one,one one, two, three, three" etc...
Not trying to be a jerk, just a little friendly advance warning.Regardless of whether you are going to NCState, VMI or USMA or anywhere else in the Army world- a new Cadet would do well to stay fairly lowkey about what they "will do". Do your best, set aggressive personal goals and demonstrate a team attitude that doesn't include talking a lot about yourself.
Just a word on "orientation". Some schools may not have an ROTC orientation. They may expect you to show up for school and roll right into ROTC class along with your regular schedule. Some schools may give you your first PT test during the first week of school, thus not requiring you to come to school early. The syllabus for ROTC class doesn't include an orientation, so if your school has one great, but if you school doesn't you shouldn't be panicking.
At the Golden Knight Battalion I'm going to try a full up 1/2 day orientation for all incoming freshmen (scholarship and non scholarship). We'll see how it goes.
Call Fordham at 718-817-4878. They will probably not call you.
First of all, Happy 4th to all of you!
Bruno, I hope the cadets/applicants can take your advice to heart without getting their egos bruised. DS attended his first National Guard drill weekend last week, told him, keep your mouth shut, eyes forward and just DO IT. He got along fine and saw some really crazy new recruits break some basic military rules(like yelling across the room at their Sgt./recruiter "Hey so and so", guess flutter kicks are the new push up for stupidity).
But about the orientation.... DS's school simply had all the ROTC/SMP cadets attend the same school orientation date and they will hold their meeting and first unofficial APFT after the school's normal program is over. It helps that this is a day and a half program w/overnight. I personally like that there is a parent meet/greet and FAQ time.....so many details.....
Well, off to watch some fireworks and have a few beers with friends, the home of the free because of the brave - thanks to all who help make it happen
You are not being a jerk at all, you know more that I do and you are trying to help me. Thank you If I could not take a little constructive criticism then I would not be involved with the military. By the way, what is the form for the push ups? Is it simply going down until your arms are 90 degrees or is there some change up?
GREAT attitude!! There are some links(somewhere) or google for Army APFT videos, DS used a few or if you know someone recently at basic training(DS's good friend went last summer and was VERY helpful for form). It sounds like you have the basics, but everyone has warned about counts being reduced due to improper form so follow up on this!
DS is like you, not able to max out - yet - but training hard all summer to show his committment to the ROTC program when he shows up this fall(or actually later this month he has an unofficial APFT during orientation as mentioned).
It is wonderful that you already know constructive criticism isn't meant to tear you down - but build you up
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