AROTC Scholarship Payments Delayed indefinitely

[Jcleppe]

Are you sure that is the way it works, could it be that is how it is required for them to do it, but maybe one school had less on scholarship, thus they were able to submit the group much faster than a school with many on scholarship.

I am just asking.

The battalion can submit the contracting paperwork at any time, they don't have to wait to bundle them. If they wait say a couple months so they can have more cadets it s really unfair to the cadet that met the requirements on time, that cadet loses those 2 months of stipend. That's not the way to run a ship so to speak.

 

[Aglahad]

I lost book money and 2 months of stipend as a freshman because of HR mishandling, my guidance was to suck it up buttercup....Sometimes they can do back pay sometimes they can't if it is passed the FY or the money isn't there.

Besides drill pay I haven't been paid correctly once so seeing or hearing this situation going on doesn't surprise me. The bureaucracy of it all will be the biggest headache the cadets will experience and it doesn't stop, I hope the scholarship issues are handled quickly but as for the stipends I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[cjs]

My son is a MSIV and as he uses his scholarship money for room & board. I do hope that they pay later this month or early December for this current semester.


(Using the scholarship money this way has always made it paid this time of year ever since he was a MSI.)

 

[ernrun]

My DD continues to get her stipend and latest posted November 1st. She got her book money back in September and contracted 2nd week of September, signed paperwork and sworn in so she could get half her stipend for September. Security clearance was done a couple weeks later so they could do it as one big group for all 12 newly contracted cadets. Stipends and book money being paid but no tuition money as of yet and no reimbursement for airfare to school for initial contracting as per 4 year scholarship award. Just sitting tight and waiting. No contact from school yet asking for money. Just hoping this gets cleared up soon. Certainly a mess as it seems different cadets are having different issues. Makes no sense but has any government action made sense lately?

 

[armydaughter]

It's amazing how different each battalion is.

DS contracted mid September. Tuition was paid almost immediately (48 hours). First stipend (prorated Sept) and book stipend paid at the end of Sept. His first half of Oct was paid late but his second half on Oct. 31. I didn't know about the airfare reimburesement but it might be tempting fate to try to initiate that paperwork now.


edit: I just checked son's account. His spring tuition/fees have already been paid by ROTC but they paid $400 less this semester than last. It looks like they paid the tuition and one of the fees but not two other fees that were paid last semester. Curious. (but still VERY grateful)

 

[cajuncarrier]

edit: I just checked son's account. His spring tuition/fees have already been paid by ROTC but they paid $400 less this semester than last. It looks like they paid the tuition and one of the fees but not two other fees that were paid last semester. Curious. (but still VERY grateful)[/QUOTE]


Checked DS's account today. All stipend money has been paid on time. Still have yet to receive reimbursement for book or tuition/room and board. We're taking the room and board option. Congrats on being ahead of the game. More waiting for us.

 

[cjs]

It's amazing how different each battalion is.

DS contracted mid September. Tuition was paid almost immediately (48 hours). First stipend (prorated Sept) and book stipend paid at the end of Sept. His first half of Oct was paid late but his second half on Oct. 31. I didn't know about the airfare reimburesement but it might be tempting fate to try to initiate that paperwork now.


edit: I just checked son's account. His spring tuition/fees have already been paid by ROTC but they paid $400 less this semester than last. It looks like they paid the tuition and one of the fees but not two other fees that were paid last semester. Curious. (but still VERY grateful)

I'm confused about your "edit" on your post. Your son's spring tuition/fees have been paid?

 

[cjs]

edit: I just checked son's account. His spring tuition/fees have already been paid by ROTC but they paid $400 less this semester than last. It looks like they paid the tuition and one of the fees but not two other fees that were paid last semester. Curious. (but still VERY grateful)

Checked DS's account today. All stipend money has been paid on time. Still have yet to receive reimbursement for book or tuition/room and board. We're taking the room and board option. Congrats on being ahead of the game. More waiting for us.[/QUOTE]

You won't get reimbursement for room & board until very late November or early December. The first semester my son was actually already done with the semester and home before we received it.

It's this way for my son and many other cadets that I know who go to various schools and use their scholarship for room and board. I don't quite understand why ROTC is willing to pay the tuition charges so quickly and not the room and board charges in the Fall semester. They do pay it quickly in the Spring semester.

 

[paradoxer]

Actually might not be

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Checked DS's account today. All stipend money has been paid on time. Still have yet to receive reimbursement for book or tuition/room and board. We're taking the room and board option. Congrats on being ahead of the game. More waiting for us.

You won't get reimbursement for room & board until very late November or early December. The first semester my son was actually already done with the semester and home before we received it.

It's this way for my son and many other cadets that I know who go to various schools and use their scholarship for room and board. I don't quite understand why ROTC is willing to pay the tuition charges so quickly and not the room and board charges in the Fall semester. They do pay it quickly in the Spring semester.[/QUOTE]

It may be that the school credited his account and not that the funds actually were paid by the military, there's a difference obviously. Depends on the school policy but I'm thinking it's more likely that the school issued the credit trusting that the payment would come in the future.

 

[armydaughter]

I'm confused about your "edit" on your post. Your son's spring tuition/fees have been paid?

Yes. They posted right after the "charge" on the bursars account. I wonder if the HRA put in both semesters' of paperwork at the same time.

For fall, the ROTC payment was just in the notes section until he contracted. But for spring it is listed as an actual payment.

 

[cjs]

Yes. They posted right after the "charge" on the bursars account. I wonder if the HRA put in both semesters' of paperwork at the same time.

For fall, the ROTC payment was just in the notes section until he contracted. But for spring it is listed as an actual payment.

This must be something new because I have never read about the Army paying for the next semester during a current semester.

It may just be how the burser's office is listing it for next semester as the actual amount that will be paid vs projected.

 

[cajuncarrier]

ok site must be acting up today. I hit quote to respond to army daughter and it didn't show up that way. And I posted


Checked DS's account today. All stipend money has been paid on time. Still have yet to receive reimbursement for book or tuition/room and board. We're taking the room and board option. Congrats on being ahead of the game. More waiting for us. not cjs. Whatever..

Thanks for the info concerning the room and board reimbursement. That's good to know. I'm sure it will be coming.. one day

 

[ernrun]

Checked with my DD tonight on how things were going. Upon talking we looked at the dates and found that her paperwork was submitted pre-government shutdown, and the hold up now is probably her security clearance. She said she was told that it could take 45-60 days post submission of security clearance info before tuition is paid. This holds in line with some other posts that stated tuition being paid late in the semester such as around december, especialyy for newly contracted cadets. Since her security info was submitted first week of October this would put payment of tuition at around mid-November or early December if it happens. Probably why school still shows a credit for ROTC on her account. But on her resource page the credit is listed as estimated and there is no posting in the actual payment side as it has been since she contracted.

 

[cravius]

Checked with my DD tonight on how things were going. Upon talking we looked at the dates and found that her paperwork was submitted pre-government shutdown, and the hold up now is probably her security clearance. She said she was told that it could take 45-60 days post submission of security clearance info before tuition is paid. This holds in line with some other posts that stated tuition being paid late in the semester such as around december, especialyy for newly contracted cadets. Since her security info was submitted first week of October this would put payment of tuition at around mid-November or early December if it happens. Probably why school still shows a credit for ROTC on her account. But on her resource page the credit is listed as estimated and there is no posting in the actual payment side as it has been since she contracted.

I contracted and recieved tuition and stipend well before I submitted my security clearance.

 

[Pima]

Educational lesson here, even if it diverts the topic for a second, but does AROTC require ALL cadets to complete a security clearance as a freshman?

If not, than why would it hold up a ROTC scholarship cadet's payment.

Remember, I am an AFROTC poster, and for them you don't do the clearance until at the earliest rising senior yr in college.

I am not trying to ruffle feathers, just trying to understand if every cadet has to go through it as a freshmen, and from a budget perspective, wouldn't they save tens of thousands waiting until the point of no return from a commissioning perspective?
~~~ Honestly,what are they taught their 1st yr. that needs to get them a security clearance to be in ROTC?

No flaming, just trying to understand the reason behind it.

 

[Jcleppe]

Educational lesson here, even if it diverts the topic for a second, but does AROTC require ALL cadets to complete a security clearance as a freshman?

If not, than why would it hold up a ROTC scholarship cadet's payment.

Remember, I am an AFROTC poster, and for them you don't do the clearance until at the earliest rising senior yr in college.

I am not trying to ruffle feathers, just trying to understand if every cadet has to go through it as a freshmen, and from a budget perspective, wouldn't they save tens of thousands waiting until the point of no return from a commissioning perspective?
~~~ Honestly,what are they taught their 1st yr. that needs to get them a security clearance to be in ROTC?

No flaming, just trying to understand the reason behind it.

Not really sure why they do it but once the cadet contracts they are handed the paperwork to fill out and submit. There may be some battalions that give the paperwork along with the contracting paperwork.

I agree with Cravius, the clearance is not part of the contracting in regard to stipend and tuition payments.

 

[sheriff3]

DS was contracted and paid well before security clearance even started. DS did show up with SF-86 form completed on the first day but I do not believe it factored into the contracting equation at all. On a side note... DD enlisted in AF and was going through EOD school. That school requires a top secret clearance, it was starange getting calls at home from 2 different invesigators on 2 different kids regarding 2 seperate branches for 2 levels of clearance. Lots O questions for sure.... Sorry I digress..

 

[ghost_rider]

Security clearance is definitely not required to contract or receive pay. I was contracted in my first month as an MS 1 and paid for years before even beginning my security clearance process as an MS 3.

We were told later that the process should have been started within 90 days of contracting, but nobody told us that at the time. Most of us did not even know we needed a clearance to be commissioned yet.

As far as the Army paying out, I have heard very little at my school about this happening, but it would not surprise me in the least.

 

[cajuncarrier]

DS in AROTC called the other day asking for specific items for his security clearance. So I know that it is mandatory for him. He said it was a stack of paper work. He contracted in Sept. but it was delayed with the shutdown. Haven't heard if it was completed on their end or not. And have not received any calls on that either.

oh and he is a MSI

 

[cravius]

DS in AROTC called the other day asking for specific items for his security clearance. So I know that it is mandatory for him. He said it was a stack of paper work. He contracted in Sept. but it was delayed with the shutdown. Haven't heard if it was completed on their end or not. And have not received any calls on that either.

oh and he is a MSI

The unit may require them to start it after contracting, but it has no bearing on scholarship payments.