AROTC Scholarship Second Board?

JoeNavy89 said:
I disagree - I see a lot of leadership. Most defensive lineman aren’t running 6 minute miles. I like your chances on 3rd board. I was awarded a 3 year 28 ACT 3.4 unweighted, 8 AP classes, offered Norwich, Wheaton and U of San Diego. I had Auburn as my #3, but got the Schnide from War Eagle nation.
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It was 8:04, that pace is a fail on the run of the APFT. Doesn't look good to a LTC on the board.
 
Montana State Army ROTC said:
It was 8:04, that pace is a fail on the run of the APFT. Doesn't look good to a LTC on the board.
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I agree the pace is not awesome, but might I suggest we be a bit realistic here, and I believe a LTC on the board may share this thinking. He's a defensive lineman on the football team. In today's HS football programs, student athletes have been almost excessively indoctrinated into their respective positions on the team. I remember even in my Pop Warner days, coaches would encourage outside development in speed, muscle, or other athletic advancements depending on the position we played. I think the PMSs may look at the 8:04 mile time with suspicion, but his defensive lineman accomplishments may provide context to why his time may be lower than others. The other thing is, the points for his time can be made up in other areas of his application. I can't find it at the moment, but UW-Milwaukee AROTC had the PFA score chart on a PowerPoint of theirs (maybe someone can repost it here). Again, I would suggest working on improving the test scores, but if you can get another PFA in, to work on cardio a lot to improve the mile time. Good luck!
 
@JBfortunecookie1 - I think you are putting way too much thought into this. First of all, my guess is that @Montana State Army ROTC has a little more insight into the AROTC Boards than most of us. Secondly, the PMSs are reviewing hundreds of applications per day. My opinion is they don't have enough time to do the in depth analysis regarding the accomplishments as an "offensive lineman". ACT, GPA, PFA - quick ways to segregate the candidates. Again - Just my 2 cents! BTW -congrats on your scholarship and your perseverance with Cadet Command!
 
JBfortunecookie1 said:
I agree the pace is not awesome, but might I suggest we be a bit realistic here, and I believe a LTC on the board may share this thinking. He's a defensive lineman on the football team. In today's HS football programs, student athletes have been almost excessively indoctrinated into their respective positions on the team. I remember even in my Pop Warner days, coaches would encourage outside development in speed, muscle, or other athletic advancements depending on the position we played. I think the PMSs may look at the 8:04 mile time with suspicion, but his defensive lineman accomplishments may provide context to why his time may be lower than others. The other thing is, the points for his time can be made up in other areas of his application. I can't find it at the moment, but UW-Milwaukee AROTC had the PFA score chart on a PowerPoint of theirs (maybe someone can repost it here). Again, I would suggest working on improving the test scores, but if you can get another PFA in, to work on cardio a lot to improve the mile time. Good luck!
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Amazing to see the quick body transformation of a family friend at the USNA after Plebe Summer and 1st semester a lot of cardio. From a bulky middle linebacker in HS with large biceps and tree trunk size legs to a mere shadow of himself as a very slender and fit midshipman.
 
@EEBTTF I agree I probably put too much thought into it 😅 . I just know that in my case I didn't have a stellar mile time, but still performed well on pushups and situps. I was under the impression that a decent PFA performance point wise wouldn't necessarily hold this applicant back from some form of a scholarship. I totally respect @Montana State Army ROTC 's perspective, and was just looking for ways the applicant could improve the OML score in any way possible. Cheers!
 
JBfortunecookie1 said:
@EEBTTF I agree I probably put too much thought into it 😅 . I just know that in my case I didn't have a stellar mile time, but still performed well on pushups and situps. I was under the impression that a decent PFA performance point wise wouldn't necessarily hold this applicant back from some form of a scholarship. I totally respect @Montana State Army ROTC 's perspective, and was just looking for ways the applicant could improve the OML score in any way possible. Cheers!
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Total point wise it can balance out. But the board may penalize for a low event which can seriously hurt a candidate. Physical fitness is huge in ROTC and the Army. Don't go to the board thinking one low item won’t hurt. There are hundreds if not thousands of HS seniors with great scores all around.
 
Montana State Army ROTC said:
Total point wise it can balance out. But the board may penalize for a low event which can seriously hurt a candidate. Physical fitness is huge in ROTC and the Army. Don't go to the board thinking one low item won’t hurt. There are hundreds if not thousands of HS seniors with great scores all around.
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I was unaware of the penalization for a low event. I knew however that since my mile time was just a bit better than this applicant, it was still a possibility for him to get some kind of scholarship. Thanks for the information!
 
JBfortunecookie1 said:
I was unaware of the penalization for a low event. I knew however that since my mile time was just a bit better than this applicant, it was still a possibility for him to get some kind of scholarship. Thanks for the information!
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The board looks at the whole file and votes. You get rewarded at the board for good scores (which gives you a double bump) and “punished” for low scores (which double penalizes you). Hence- go to the board with your best file. Double hence- my original statement of a quick look holds true that low scores hurt him.
 
BreacherUp2020 said:
I have been reading through several forums and see that some will not be awarded until February 1st but have also seen that many people have been awarded scholarships since this past Thursday. I was boarded on the first board but did not receive an offer from it.
I am a Varsity Football player, co-captain, and all city defensive lineman. I am also my AFJROTC's unit commander and have held high leadership positions since my Sophomore year. On top of that, I do theatre for my school and hold a part-time job. My PT scores are all satisfactory, with 50 pushups, 54 sit-ups, and an 8:04 mile run (which I know is not great, but I ran the test during the season and was not in great long-distance running shape). I have a 3.53 GPA and a 27 composite ACT.
I know that the pool is extremely competitive, but I feel as though I have a fairly competitive file. Can anyone tell me if I am lacking somewhere or if all of the scholarships for the second board have been awarded? My file has been in the "boarded/under consideration" category since the start of the first board. The site is also down for maintenance so I cannot currently access my application.
My top three schools are Auburn, Alabama, and Texas A&M, will these being more popular schools affect my chances? I have been accepted to both Auburn and Alabama.
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I have very similar stats to you, I had 53 pushups, 50 situps, along with a 7-minute mile. I carry a 3.8 GPA along with an 1170 SAT. I was a 3-year varsity player for football where I received First Team All-State, All-Area, and All-Conference selections back to back years after my junior and senior seasons. I also received a number of other awards but that is just an outline. There were four captains selected on the team out of 70 members, I had received the most votes out of any other player to be captain. I help create the first student-lead politics club at my school, which I still participate in today, I have worked a job every summer since freshman year and also worked a full-time job near 40 hours a week this past year. I have received academic honors and have taken over five AP/honors courses over my high school career. I also play varsity hockey. The biggest thing that I was told that separates me is the fact that I carry over 7 scholarships from schools around the country for football. They are all D1 and to give some background a few of them include ivy league schools (ivy league can not give money but help you get into the school). I have officially turned down all the scholarships due to my main dream of pursuing a career in the military (The fist singing period was in December and the next is in February, but just a few days ago I turned down all scholarships because I am so passionate about joining ROTC). I understand it would be extremely difficult for me to focus on ROTC while playing D1 football, therefore I am worried about not being able to develop fully as a cadet if I am spending all my time with football. I had a great interview, the PMS I interviewed with said he was impressed with my file and would be surprised if I didn't get at least a 3-year scholarship. Here I am, now moving onto the 3 board without a scholarship. It is definitely disappointing, but I have told myself to not worry about the scholarship because at the end of the day I am still going to participate in ROTC. I understand my SAT is not very high and hurts me, but I think my GPA makes up for it somewhat. All I can say is to keep working and pray that we get a scholarship on this last board. There is nothing we can do about it now and worrying about it will make it 100 times worse. I wish you the best of luck from one football player to another.
 
CH2331 said:
I have very similar stats to you, I had 53 pushups, 50 situps, along with a 7-minute mile. I carry a 3.8 GPA along with an 1170 SAT. I was a 3-year varsity player for football where I received First Team All-State, All-Area, and All-Conference selections back to back years after my junior and senior seasons. I also received a number of other awards but that is just an outline. There were four captains selected on the team out of 70 members, I had received the most votes out of any other player to be captain. I help create the first student-lead politics club at my school, which I still participate in today, I have worked a job every summer since freshman year and also worked a full-time job near 40 hours a week this past year. I have received academic honors and have taken over five AP/honors courses over my high school career. I also play varsity hockey. The biggest thing that I was told that separates me is the fact that I carry over 7 scholarships from schools around the country for football. They are all D1 and to give some background a few of them include ivy league schools (ivy league can not give money but help you get into the school). I have officially turned down all the scholarships due to my main dream of pursuing a career in the military (The fist singing period was in December and the next is in February, but just a few days ago I turned down all scholarships because I am so passionate about joining ROTC). I understand it would be extremely difficult for me to focus on ROTC while playing D1 football, therefore I am worried about not being able to develop fully as a cadet if I am spending all my time with football. I had a great interview, the PMS I interviewed with said he was impressed with my file and would be surprised if I didn't get at least a 3-year scholarship. Here I am, now moving onto the 3 board without a scholarship. It is definitely disappointing, but I have told myself to not worry about the scholarship because at the end of the day I am still going to participate in ROTC. I understand my SAT is not very high and hurts me, but I think my GPA makes up for it somewhat. All I can say is to keep working and pray that we get a scholarship on this last board. There is nothing we can do about it now and worrying about it will make it 100 times worse. I wish you the best of luck from one football player to another.
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Best of luck to you! I am going to 3rd Board as well. Fingers crossed for both of us.
 
Status change today:

This applicant was boarded by one of our first two Selection Board and did not receive an offer from those boards. This applicant remains eligible to receive an offer from our final Selection Board scheduled to convene 23 MAR 20.
 
Jarhead713 said:
Status change today:

This applicant was boarded by one of our first two Selection Board and did not receive an offer from those boards. This applicant remains eligible to receive an offer from our final Selection Board scheduled to convene 23 MAR 20.
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Same status as me.....
 
Jarhead713 said:
Status change today:

This applicant was boarded by one of our first two Selection Board and did not receive an offer from those boards. This applicant remains eligible to receive an offer from our final Selection Board scheduled to convene 23 MAR 20.
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What was your PFT scores?
 
Keep your heads up fellas! There are still plenty of scholarships left this third board. If there are any areas that are weaker in your app (ie PFA, test scores, etc) take care of that now. You all are qualified in your own unique ways for a scholarship, but might need improvement in that one area to boost your OML ranking. Good luck to you all for the third board!
 
Per the U.S. Army Cadet Command (ROTC) FB Page: (Posted Jan 24/Fri) "Today, #ArmyROTC is also one of the largest sources of merit-based scholarships in the nation. This week, U. S. Army Cadet Command offered 991 high school seniors 3- and 4-year scholarships worth over $75 million dollars." My DS also did not receive an offer after being boarded well ahead of the 1st Board. He had been working on the application since it opened June 12. He has dreamed of being in the Army since he was 8yrs old and his Uncle served in Desert Storm. I hope Board #3 is the magic # for all of you sharing this dream to serve.
 
Jarhead713 said:
41 pushups 50 situps and like a 7 minute mile
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Have you thought about maybe re taking your ACT. I believe you have time to take in feb and scores come out 2 weeks later. I believe we are from the same area. PM me and I can give you the name of DS tutor. You can focus on a couple of areas to improve and your score coming up a point or two could help.
My sons super score went from 28, to 30 to 32. You would have to get to it though to give you time to practice.
 
MNRC2018 said:
Have you thought about maybe re taking your ACT. I believe you have time to take in feb and scores come out 2 weeks later. I believe we are from the same area. PM me and I can give you the name of DS tutor. You can focus on a couple of areas to improve and your score coming up a point or two could help.
My sons super score went from 28, to 30 to 32. You would have to get to it though to give you time to practice.
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Maybe @Montana State Army ROTC or @clarksonarmy can chime in on this.. My understanding is that once you are boarded - you are boarded and placed on the OML. I was not aware that you could re-submit scores to improve your standing on the OML.
 
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