At the Risk of Sounding Sarcastic.......

Well, i am going to go against the grain here. These are 17 at best 18 years olds who know nothing about the real world, applications or anything else. I am a CPA and if i can describe what i am an expert in, the best words would be taxes and filling out forms. I have clients crying every year because they cant figure out the FASFA forms and have me to do or at the very least give them the answer to many of the questions. These are men and women over 40 years old with college degrees with most of them being professionals.. So i am not surprised that people freak out when filing out forms, don't really understand what the forms mean and how to proceed when the forms are accepted. It doesn't help that most forms seem to be written by lawyers with only lawyers really understanding what they say. So an 18 year or their parents not understanding is to me normal.
 
This thread is hysterical but I have to say it is also a little frustrating since my son knew exactly what he was applying for and did not receive the scholarship! He will be going the college programmer route and now realizing that maybe if he worked harder on his grades during high school we would not be in this position. It is scary to me that kids apply for a scholarship through a branch of the military and have NO clue what they are signing up for!
 
NROTC_27 said:
This thread is hysterical but I have to say it is also a little frustrating since my son knew exactly what he was applying for and did not receive the scholarship! He will be going the college programmer route and now realizing that maybe if he worked harder on his grades during high school we would not be in this position. It is scary to me that kids apply for a scholarship through a branch of the military and have NO clue what they are signing up for!
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Yeah, I have DS #3 as an HS junior....he will be a close call for ROTC Scholarship from what I know and will need to improve his SAT to do it. I already have a 4-year winner in the family in DS#2. My youngest is very dialed in, 3.9 unweighted, and a superior athlete, and leader to his older brother....hoping his SAT can be improved so he gets a shot at his dream.
 
Gnarlygoat27 said:
Same!
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x2. Though I am starting to see glimmers of understanding and comprehending in these forms/life in my DS. The fog of male teenagery may be lifting. Though I do not expect to see it gone until the end of freshman year. 2 semesters of ROTC & college curriculum will likely blow it away.
 
gooseblitz said:
Yeah, I have DS #3 as an HS junior....he will be a close call for ROTC Scholarship from what I know and will need to improve his SAT to do it. I already have a 4-year winner in the family in DS#2. My youngest is very dialed in, 3.9 unweighted, and a superior athlete, and leader to his older brother....hoping his SAT can be improved so he gets a shot at his dream.
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If the SAT is the only real weak link in the chain, it can be overcome with a strong interview, good to excellent AFA, and plenty of leadership demonstrations in a range of collateral duties or sports. But if the SAT is well below average, I tend to recommend the NPP program. The universities available for this are quite good, and they go out of their way to get the students in a collegiate mindset.
 
NTAG did a press release on my DD and it was picked up by the local TV station and 'liked' over 2,000 times. What can I say...it's small town, rural America! Some of her peers question why she got a 'check' for $200,000 (and she literally got a huge presentation check). Trying to explain the scholarship and all that is entails is frustrating. If they get it, they get it.

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St. Peter senior is awarded NROTC Scholarship

Raina Roemhildt, a St. Peter senior is set to receive a Naval Reserve Officers Training Corps (NROTC) scholarship worth approximately $200,000.
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GWU PNS said:
If the SAT is the only real weak link in the chain, it can be overcome with a strong interview, good to excellent AFA, and plenty of leadership demonstrations in a range of collateral duties or sports. But if the SAT is well below average, I tend to recommend the NPP program. The universities available for this are quite good, and they go out of their way to get the students in a collegiate mindset.
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Yes! Our son is a good example. I posted on this earlier this cycle so I will not repeat. Thank you GWU PNS for reinforcing.
 
GWU PNS said:
If the SAT is the only real weak link in the chain, it can be overcome with a strong interview, good to excellent AFA, and plenty of leadership demonstrations in a range of collateral duties or sports. But if the SAT is well below average, I tend to recommend the NPP program. The universities available for this are quite good, and they go out of their way to get the students in a collegiate mindset.
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DS3 had an 1100 on his first try and has the summer to prep for a second and if needed a third go round. DS3 is a 3 sport athlete, a Spartan Race competitor, and USPSA competitive shooter, elected student gov. for 4 years, and a member of Keystone Boys State. DS2 is a Ranger Challenge member as an MS1 with a 565 on his latest PT score and would not be able to keep up with DS3 in PT. I realize the importance of the interview and will really coach him before that. I would love to see him pick up 200 points on that SAT. DS3 is more in tune with a soldier/officer career path whereas DS2 was more Doctor/Soldier at this stage. DS3 did say he'd go as a programmer if he doesn't get scholarship. I don't think DS2 would have.
The information I get here is a big help! Thanks
 
gooseblitz said:
DS3 had an 1100 on his first try and has the summer to prep for a second and if needed a third go round. DS3 is a 3 sport athlete, a Spartan Race competitor, and USPSA competitive shooter, elected student gov. for 4 years, and a member of Keystone Boys State. DS2 is a Ranger Challenge member as an MS1 with a 565 on his latest PT score and would not be able to keep up with DS3 in PT. I realize the importance of the interview and will really coach him before that. I would love to see him pick up 200 points on that SAT. DS3 is more in tune with a soldier/officer career path whereas DS2 was more Doctor/Soldier at this stage. DS3 did say he'd go as a programmer if he doesn't get scholarship. I don't think DS2 would have.
The information I get here is a big help! Thanks
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Has he taken the ACT? Both my kids did much better on the ACT than the SAT.
 
gooseblitz said:
DS3 had an 1100 on his first try and has the summer to prep for a second and if needed a third go round. DS3 is a 3 sport athlete, a Spartan Race competitor, and USPSA competitive shooter, elected student gov. for 4 years, and a member of Keystone Boys State. DS2 is a Ranger Challenge member as an MS1 with a 565 on his latest PT score and would not be able to keep up with DS3 in PT. I realize the importance of the interview and will really coach him before that. I would love to see him pick up 200 points on that SAT. DS3 is more in tune with a soldier/officer career path whereas DS2 was more Doctor/Soldier at this stage. DS3 did say he'd go as a programmer if he doesn't get scholarship. I don't think DS2 would have.
The information I get here is a big help! Thanks
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Sounds like you are blessed with great kids and that your sons have a lot to offer as future military leaders.
Quick recommendation is your DS may wish to utilize Khan academy for free SAT prep - practice 30 mins a day all summer and 2 full practice tests a week. Establish a baseline, and then see if it helps. If that does not pretty quickly show results, then seek more personalized tutoring.
Also, a series of mock interviews with a couple of different people I think help the young adult candidate prepare/ get comfortable, and opinions vary as to necessity but IMO dressing up for the interview made a positive impression.
Best of luck!
 
Newport122 said:
NTAG did a press release on my DD and it was picked up by the local TV station and 'liked' over 2,000 times. What can I say...it's small town, rural America! Some of her peers question why she got a 'check' for $200,000 (and she literally got a huge presentation check). Trying to explain the scholarship and all that is entails is frustrating. If they get it, they get it.

www.keyc.com

St. Peter senior is awarded NROTC Scholarship

Raina Roemhildt, a St. Peter senior is set to receive a Naval Reserve Officers Training Corps (NROTC) scholarship worth approximately $200,000.
www.keyc.com www.keyc.com
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I love this and I wish this was uniform across all NTAG's but it is not. Especially in a metro area of 5.5 million people. My DS' graduating class last year had 1 USMA, 1 USNA, 2 AROTC, and 1 NROTC, 1 AFROTC and it was "Crickets".
 
Jimdlt19 said:
I love this and I wish this was uniform across all NTAG's but it is not. Especially in a metro area of 5.5 million people. My DS' graduating class last year had 1 USMA, 1 USNA, 2 AROTC, and 1 NROTC, 1 AFROTC and it was "Crickets".
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I posted a video last summer from my older sons HS Scholarship Ceremony.....It was about 2 hrs long but had notes of the portions for military recognition. They recognized everyone from the class enlisted or ROTC bound on stage which drew a standing ovation that was proud emotional moment for sure. HS Orchestra played Warriors LEgacy and then a local PMS LTC came to present 2 checks to ROTC winners. There was an audible gasp from the crowd when she presented the big $240,000 check to my son. If you ask I believe most ROTC battalions will do this.
 
gooseblitz said:
I posted a video last summer from my older sons HS Scholarship Ceremony.....It was about 2 hrs long but had notes of the portions for military recognition. They recognized everyone from the class enlisted or ROTC bound on stage which drew a standing ovation that was proud emotional moment for sure. HS Orchestra played Warriors LEgacy and then a local PMS LTC came to present 2 checks to ROTC winners. There was an audible gasp from the crowd when she presented the big $240,000 check to my son. If you ask I believe most ROTC battalions will do this.
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Our graduation usually has a short speech about military service and recognizes everyone enlisting or going into ROTC one by one at the ceremony. Myself and two of my best friends who got NROTC scholarships are receiving our checks at our academic awards/scholarships night, so I think it just depends on what your school or ROTC technician can get scheduled.
 
USMC8995 said:
I get the frustration of dealing with this. Did you read the application? Um, application? :rolleyes:

Now.... Why oh why does this whole process send emails to the candidate with critical information, must-do's, etc... DS's email is flooded (10,000+ emails in the last few months) right now with college recruiting offers, high school activities, advertising SPAM, tik tok notices, ugh everything and oh wait, there's an email from 3 weeks ago with links and info on how to start the DODMERB process. Woops! I never thought I'd have to teach the younger generation how to filter emails and ensure critical information is screened out. That said, I'd think a mailed letter would be better suited for official business request like this. Maybe use both email and snail mail. :bang:
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This is the reason I had my DD create and use a different email just for the nrotc/SA applications years ago. ;) But I get it, there are thousands of emails being sent to college seniors this time of year daily!
 
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