Benefits of SMC vs ROTC?

Then why do Rotc if you can commission without dealing with it. Not trying to be pain, just curious how it works

You cannot attend an SMC and also commission without ROTC. You can join the Corps of Cadets and live a military lifestyle without participating in ROTC.

For example, let's look at VMI: (From Wikipedia)
While over 50 percent of VMI graduates are commissioned each year, the VMI Board of Visitors has set a goal of having 70 percent of VMI cadets take a commission. The VMI class of 2017 graduated 300 cadets, 172 (or 57 percent) of whom were commissioned as officers in the United States military.
 
Question then, if you are in the Corp but not in Rotc, what happens when you graduate? Do you commission or it is bascially having a military life four years while at school but when you graduate you enter the civilian world?
Norwich is very popular with those seeking to enter the law enforcement profession in New England.
As is The Citadel for future engineers in South Carolina.
 
Norwich is very popular with those seeking to enter the law enforcement profession in New England.
As is The Citadel for future engineers in South Carolina.

Why one would want to go through that experience and NOT commission, though, is beyond me. Believe me-- I've met them and they are fine people, but I do not understand it.

Then why do Rotc if you can commission without dealing with it. Not trying to be pain, just curious how it works

For one, if you don't do ROTC then you can't be on an ROTC scholarship. If you're not on an ROTC scholarship, then you need to find an alternate way to pay for that SMC (and keep finding an alternate way each year)-- not something I'd want to do while in a Corps of Cadets. Finding, winning, and maintaining scholarships and grants takes away from valuable sock-shaving and towel-edge-aligning time your first few years. ;)
 
Why one would want to go through that experience and NOT commission, though, is beyond me. Believe me-- I've met them and they are fine people, but I do not understand it.
Such folks, at least at Virginia Tech and I assume other SMCs, are enrolled in special leadership programs only available through the Corps of Cadets at those institutions.
 
Why one would want to go through that experience and NOT commission, though, is beyond me. Believe me-- I've met them and they are fine people, but I do not understand it.
Such folks, at least at Virginia Tech and I assume other SMCs, are enrolled in special leadership programs only available through the Corps of Cadets at those institutions.

Great point, and I get that. However, there are programs like that at non-SMC schools that are just as rigorous, yet offer a lot more flexibility and freedom than an SMC, especially at the freshman/sophomore phase. Different priorities for different folks, I suppose. I know if I did the SMC route, I would definitely want a commission waiting at the end of it. :)
 
Norwich Corps graduates receive two diplomas, one from Norwich University and another from The Military College of Vermont.
 
Then why do Rotc if you can commission without dealing with it. Not trying to be pain, just curious how it works

You cannot attend an SMC and also commission without ROTC. You can join the Corps of Cadets and live a military lifestyle without participating in ROTC.

For example, let's look at VMI: (From Wikipedia)
While over 50 percent of VMI graduates are commissioned each year, the VMI Board of Visitors has set a goal of having 70 percent of VMI cadets take a commission. The VMI class of 2017 graduated 300 cadets, 172 (or 57 percent) of whom were commissioned as officers in the United States military.
That was my confusion. You cant commission without Rotc. I thought I read from another person that you could commission as member of the corp but not a member of Rotc
 
What are some benefits of going to SMC other than guaranteed commissioning and Corps of Cadets?

Its now been over 10 years since I started my freshman year at a SMC, so my experience has become a bit dated. But I feel like it also gives me a perspective to look back with 6+ years in the military, several PCSs, deployments, ups, downs, etc. My bottom line: its all about what you want out of the college experience.

From a purely professional sense as a military officer...coming from an SMC gives you absolutely nothing over a traditional ROTC program. I know that may upset some people who are overly invested in SMCs, but it's the simple truth. I've had the opportunity to serve with officers from service academies, SMCs, traditional ROTC programs, and OTS/OCS. I have seen outstanding officers come from all of these programs. I have also seen terrible officers come from all of these programs. Performance/competence always comes down to the individual.

My advice to any high school student these days is to consider what you want out of college...you only get to be 18-22 years old once. If you want a pseudo-military lifestyle in college, look at the service academies, VMI, the Citadel, Norwich, etc. If you want a traditional college lifestyle, look at traditional ROTC units. If you want a hybrid of the two, then look at Virginia Tech or Texas A&M. All of these options will lead to the same end goal: a commission in the military. In 6+ years of active duty, no one has ever cared about where I received my commission...which is a good thing IMO. You will be judged on your performance as a Lieutenant/Ensign, regardless of where you graduated. And frankly, that is how it should be.

Looking back, I can think of two distinct advantages that came from my attending a SMC. First, I developed very close friendships with my classmates...much more so than you can expect at a traditional ROTC unit. Going on 10+ years, these friendships are as close as ever. Second, I started my active duty career with a much better understanding of the other services than my USAFA/ROTC peers. I spent four years living with Army/Navy/USMC cadets and interacting with their ROTC units. This helped me understand the differences between the services in terms of roles, organization, culture, etc. As a junior officer, I had the opportunity to deploy in joint environments...and being able to "speak" Army, Navy, or USMC (even at a very basic level) helped a great deal in developing relationships.

Take it FWIW. I wish all of the young folks here on this forum the best in their future endeavors!
 
What are some benefits of going to SMC other than guaranteed commissioning and Corps of Cadets?
If you want a pseudo-military lifestyle in college, look at the service academies, VMI, the Citadel, Norwich, etc. If you want a traditional college lifestyle, look at traditional ROTC units. If you want a hybrid of the two, then look at Virginia Tech or Texas A&M.

Everybody always forgets UNG....

Excellent post!
 
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