C+ in AP Calculus!

I think there is a recognition by the admissions board that, though excellence is to be expected of anyone who wishes to attend USMA, perfection is unattainable--we are only human. A C+ isn't the end of the world in an honors level class, especially with a perfect record prior to it. They look at the whole person, not one isolated incident of inadequacy. A similar thing happened to me and I am unconcerned and even optimistic about my chances of admission. See your kid at R Day.
 
i want to say my son, a firstie now, had a D seventh semester, for an overall C it was year long class in Block scheduling. Never heard anything about it.

My son says without the hard calculus then, he wouldn't have passed USNA Calc.

His teacher taught out of the same book they use at Airforce
 
Good to hear. Hopefully everything works out for the best. She's still in such a state of shocked, even asked her teacher for some extra credit to bring up the grade but he said she only knows 78.64 percent of the math and that's all she's getting. He's right about that.
 
Good to hear. Hopefully everything works out for the best. She's still in such a state of shocked, even asked her teacher for some extra credit to bring up the grade but he said she only knows 78.64 percent of the math and that's all she's getting. He's right about that.
Very tough for the high school level, but good preparation for what to expect at USMA.

There is no "close enough" at USMA. You either meet the standard or you don't. When you barely finish ahead of a classmate in class rank and get the assignment you both wanted, you know it wasn't because someone threw you a few extra points along the way. You earned it.
 
Does USMA Require 7th semester grades to be submitted? USNA does not, it only on special request.

Some high schools will automatically send 7th semester grades to all colleges that you have applied to. If USMA does not need these grades you may want to insure that they are not sent.

https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/7th-semester-grades.52756/
from the USNA website:

NOTE: If your High School transcript is forwarded prior to the completion of the first semester of your senior year, it is your responsibility to ensure that your high school forwards an updated transcript to the Naval Academy.
 
from the USNA website:

NOTE: If your High School transcript is forwarded prior to the completion of the first semester of your senior year, it is your responsibility to ensure that your high school forwards an updated transcript to the Naval Academy.
Thanks for the update. That is different than last years process.
 
Then there are some kids that don't get to take AP Calculus. Mine will only reach AP Pre-Cal because unless you take Algebra 2 and Geometry concurrently, there is no way to fit it all in how our district does their graduation requirements.
She is doing a STEM endorsement, so hopefully that coupled with her EC/Varsity sport, she will have enough. (Honestly I think she will kill it in the interviews for nominations because she's pretty charismatic).
 
seacadetmum,

My DD wasn't interviewed by two of of three of the MOCs, even though she received all three nominations. Make sure your DD's resume is perfect and her essays are strong just in case she doesn't get the chance to dazzle at an interview.
 
My DD finally has a complete application except now they're requesting 7th semester grades with her C+ in AP Calculus. She has an explanation set to go when they receive it. The only C on her transcript. She finally admitted yesterday she did not manage her time well last semester. Completely got away from her as she says. She learned from it. Better now then freshman year in college!
For future AP Calculus takers, it's a very time consuming class. Sometime several hours to master one problem! No joke. That's where DD slipped up.
 
She has an explanation set to go when they receive it.

What is there to explain? And, frankly, I highly doubt the RC is going to inquire and ask why?

It is what it is.

Now, if the explanation was some type of personal or family turmoil, then I would proactively let RC know. Otherwise, it's simply a C+ in AP calc. In my book that's a B+ (at least) in regular calc and there are many applicants who aren't taking AP calc. In fact, there are many candidates who have only gotten as far as pre-calc. At this point it is outside anything you can control, so don't sweat it.
 
What is there to explain? And, frankly, I highly doubt the RC is going to inquire and ask why?

It is what it is.

Now, if the explanation was some type of personal or family turmoil, then I would proactively let RC know. Otherwise, it's simply a C+ in AP calc. In my book that's a B+ (at least) in regular calc and there are many applicants who aren't taking AP calc. In fact, there are many candidates who have only gotten as far as pre-calc. At this point it is outside anything you can control, so don't sweat it.
I think she was worried that because it was her first C that they may wonder what happened. She took it pretty hard and wanted to explain that she learned something about herself and managing her time. I'm assuming it wouldn't hurt. Might make her feel better to get it off of her chest.
Thanks for the feedback
 
from the USNA website:

NOTE: If your High School transcript is forwarded prior to the completion of the first semester of your senior year, it is your responsibility to ensure that your high school forwards an updated transcript to the Naval Academy.

5Day, could you please point out where exactly this is on the website? We don't find it, and we're getting conflicting advice from the moderator on the USNA forum. Thanks!
 
5Day, could you please point out where exactly this is on the website? We don't find it, and we're getting conflicting advice from the moderator on the USNA forum. Thanks!
I did a quick search and I couldn't find it either. However I'm fairly confident 5Day is correct. In any case I feel the extreme urge to make a few points, not neccesarily for you, but for all lurkers who read this thread:
1. USMA is not USNA. Academies operate differently, even in their admissions process
2. USMA admissions would have the authoritative answer on this. They are just a phone call away.
3. Sometimes the way I make decisions on this sort of stuff is to figure out, if I make a mistake or error, which way do I want to err? Barring some grade issue, would I rather unnecessarily send in a transcript, or not send what might be a needed transcript? I'd opt for the former myself.
Good luck!
 
Thanks, kinnem. We know USMA requires it; we are getting conflicting advice from the USNA forum. I don't know what son's 7th semester grades look like yet, but there is a thread on the USNA forum saying don't send the 7th semester grades unless either (i) they are specifically requested, or (ii) the candidate knows they will improve his/her chances; it points out a case where 7th semester grades dropped and hurt a candidate. For this reason, it's not necessarily something I would suggest a candidate raise with admissions directly. Also, as here, where we encourage people to read prior threads, I hesitate to tell a candidate to call admissions to ask a question if the directions are available on the website.
 
I did a quick search and I couldn't find it either. However I'm fairly confident 5Day is correct. In any case I feel the extreme urge to make a few points, not neccesarily for you, but for all lurkers who read this thread:
1. USMA is not USNA. Academies operate differently, even in their admissions process
2. USMA admissions would have the authoritative answer on this. They are just a phone call away.
3. Sometimes the way I make decisions on this sort of stuff is to figure out, if I make a mistake or error, which way do I want to err? Barring some grade issue, would I rather unnecessarily send in a transcript, or not send what might be a needed transcript? I'd opt for the former myself.
Good luck!



https://www.usna.edu/Admissions/Candidate-Instructions.php
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Schools Attended
Instructions from page:
List all high schools, civilian post-high school preparatory schools, and colleges attended after eighth grade. If Home-Schooled, enter High School for School Type and Home School for the School Name. Complete all the information on each school.

If you did not complete High School, indicate reason in Remarks section.

After grades have been posted, ensure that transcripts of each of the schools attended, whether or not credit was earned, have been forwarded by each school to the Admissions Office of the Naval Academy.

NOTE: If your High School transcript is forwarded prior to the completion of the first semester of your senior year, it is your responsibility to ensure that your high school forwards an updated transcript to the Naval Academy.

School Type: List the type of school attended. The pull down menu contains the required categories. Answer "High School" if you are home-schooled at a high school education level.
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I read a post which a USNA BGO posted that 7th semester transcripts are not required to send in unless specifically requested by the Admissions Board of USNA...
 
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