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Tds411

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Last week I received a call from both my senator, and congressman, both whom I received a nomination from. The calls were only about 20 minutes apart. They each said they were notified that admissions had now gotten all of my information, even though I finished the application in mid-December. Also, they said that my application is now in front of the review board. What does this mean? Should I be hearing from USNA soon?
 
Tds411 said:
Last week I received a call from both my senator, and congressman, both whom I received a nomination from. The calls were only about 20 minutes apart. They each said they were notified that admissions had now gotten all of my information, even though I finished the application in mid-December. Also, they said that my application is now in front of the review board. What does this mean? Should I be hearing from USNA soon?
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It means they have submitted their slates and that your completed package is now being reviewed.
If they did not tell you that you have an appointment, then it's time to join the waiting game with the rest of us.
If USNA appoints you, you will likely get a call from your Senator or MOC letting you know.
Good luck
 
Tds411 said:
And by slates you mean what?
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How does the MOC nomination process work?

Each MOC decides how to run his/her nomination process. What is described below is how MOST do it. However, this is by no means universal and you may find that one or more of your MOCs does things differently.

MOCs posts nomination application instructions online. Most request items similar to what you provide to the SA – grades, test scores, activities, etc. Many also want you to complete one or more essays. MOCs set their own application deadlines and some can be VERY EARLY (i.e., Sept. 30). There is generally no advantage to turning in your application early (other than it's done). However, do NOT be late as that is the easiest way for the MOC to reject your application.

Most MOCs use “nominating committees” made up of citizens, military personnel, and government leaders from the MOC’s state or district. These individuals are volunteers and generally have some tie to one of the SAs. Less populous states/districts may have a single committee handling all SA noms; other states/districts have separate committees for each SA. It’s up to the MOC.

The committee reviews the application packages. Some MOCs make their decision entirely based “on the paper,” meaning they do not conduct interviews with candidates. However, many MOCs conduct interviews; the interviews are almost always with the committee personnel. Based on the information from the package and the interview (as applicable), the committee recommends a “slate” of nominees to the MOC, who makes the final decision.

This is from a "sticky note" in the nominations forum, where FAQ's can be answered.
 
Tds411 said:
Last week I received a call from both my senator, and congressman, both whom I received a nomination from. The calls were only about 20 minutes apart. They each said they were notified that admissions had now gotten all of my information, even though I finished the application in mid-December. Also, they said that my application is now in front of the review board. What does this mean? Should I be hearing from USNA soon?
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I have never of heard this before. Do the academies really call the MOC's to let them know a candidates application is complete and let's them know when it is going before the review board?? I know in our area, we were told the MOCs only get notified if someone is getting ready to receive their appointment....hmmm.
 
A slate is the commonly used term for the list of nominees the MOC submits to a SA. The list contains between one and ten nominees for each vacancy the MOC has that year (typically one, occasionally two).

I would find it hard to believe that USNA regularly updates each of 535+ MOCs about each of their 10 nominees. It would be more than a full-time job. My guess . . . and it's only that . . . is this reflects one of three things. First, perhaps USNA recently sent out a mass mailing to MOCs stating that something along the lines that all packets that haven't already been acted on will be reviewed in the next month. Or, the MOCs know their slate has been submitted and that USNA typically reviews all records not already reviewed in January/February. A third option is that one of the MOC's staff contacted USNA about his/her slate, learned the obvious (that your record is in the process of being reviewed) and shared the info with the other MOC who gave you a nom.

Essentially, every record that was submitted around the time of the OP's (shortly before the holidays) is probably being reviewed about this time. I wouldn't read much into the calls other than your MOCs obviously take an active interest in their nominees, which is nice.
 
Agree with usna1985. I am guessing they probably called all their nominees and the staffer who called read a script someone prepared with pretty generic language. You could be hearing something any day or as late as April or May in a rare case. Take a look at last year's threads and you can see folks started to hear now and a few were waiting until the very end. Congrats on the Noms and Good luck!
 
Not all MOCs call. This is especially true right after an election where there are a lot of brand new MOCs who are very busy getting settled into office -- and calling SA appointees may not be high on their priority list.
 
So is it true that each MOC only has one person receive an appointment, despite nominating 10 or so people? I have never understood this.
 
Tds411 said:
So is it true that each MOC only has one person receive an appointment, despite nominating 10 or so people? I have never understood this.
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No MOC can have up to 5 slots. It all depends on how many mids there are under him since each MOC can have 5 mids at USNA at a time. For example my MOC has 2 slots open for appointees. Again all depends on how many are there and how many graduated from the year before.


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I've been wondering about the MOC limits. Is it by District or actual Representative? For example…my Representative was just elected in November so does she have 5 open slots or do the mids already at the Academy from our District count since they were appointed by her predecessor?
 
NavyFam said:
I've been wondering about the MOC limits. Is it by District or actual Representative? For example…my Representative was just elected in November so does she have 5 open slots or do the mids already at the Academy from our District count since they were appointed by her predecessor?
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No, she does not have 5 open slots. It is based on the district count!
 
How do you find out how many current mids are charged to your District? I know of one for sure.
 
Potentially all 10 of the MOC's nominees could receive appointments but only one would be slotted/charged to the MOC. The others will be charged to other sources. If you want additional details, check out the Sticky in the Nominations Forum.

You don't find out how many mids are currently charged to your district . . . at least not on your own. You could ask the SA coordinator for your MOC; that information may or may not be provided. Remember that the total of 5 includes those currently at USNA and the vacancies the MOC will fill this year. Most years, MOCs have one vacancy; occasionally, they have two. If they don't "manage" their slots properly, they could end up with three . . . or zero in a year. Both are discouraged for obvious reasons.
 
usna1985 said:
Potentially all 10 of the MOC's nominees could receive appointments but only one would be slotted/charged to the MOC. The others will be charged to other sources. If you want additional details, check out the Sticky in the Nominations Forum.

You don't find out how many mids are currently charged to your district . . . at least not on your own. You could ask the SA coordinator for your MOC; that information may or may not be provided. Remember that the total of 5 includes those currently at USNA and the vacancies the MOC will fill this year. Most years, MOCs have one vacancy; occasionally, they have two. If they don't "manage" their slots properly, they could end up with three . . . or zero in a year. Both are discouraged for obvious reasons.
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Yep! That happened in OH (Senator Brown). They did not have a slot for any AF Academy nominations. Sad thing was, that they did not let the candidates know until AFTER they did all the work for the nomination submission.... Wow!! BAD planning on their part:(
 
So i have an obivious question. If a MOC does not have a slot available for USNA abailable , would they not nominate anyone for the upcoming year?


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That is true of Brown. A real disappointment but Portman didi a second slate. The entire process for Brown was messed up. D travelled more than 2 hours for the interview. When the next week they had a session less than 7 minutes away. Planning was awful. usnadad10, the answer is no. NO opening no slate.
 
There is no reason/excuse for a sitting MOC to have zero vacancies to any SA in a given year. The SAs work with MOCs to try to make sure it doesn't happen. There are various reasons it happens but it shouldn't.

And, if there are no vacancies, there are no noms. A very sad state of affairs.
 
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