Can I get into West Point or Annapolis?

South Hudson Institute of Technology is something that's made the rounds over the years.
 
1mountaintop said:
60 % of your acceptance score is based on GPA and ACT/SAT. Take the tests early and as many times as you can afford. West Point super scores so you can send in multiple tests.
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Not exactly. It's Class Rank that trumps GPA every day of the week. That, along with your standardized test scores comprise most of.

Also keep in mind that your academic profile also consists of the strength of classes and types of classes you've taken (AP, 4 math, chem, physics, 4 English, etc.), your High School profile, etc. Of course GPA is part of this but you can't have a high class rank without a high GPA...you get the picture.
 
5Day said:
The only way you will know is to apply. If you don't apply, I can guarantee you won't get in.

Attend Boys State.
Continue to look for leadership positions. Most impressive is to an elected president.
Captain of sports teams, which you have
Varsity sports letters.
But most important is great academic achievement (class rank and ACT/SAT) in the most challenging classes. Work on improving those ACT scores.
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^^ I agree, SA's value Boys/Girls state since there is (or at least used to be) a selection criteria of who gets chosen to attend. If it becomes something where you just pay a fee and attend, perhaps its value will be re-evaluated. SAME sounds like a fine organization, but attending seminars and net-working isn't the type of 'leadership' that SA's look for in your application.
 
Sydney C. said:
Not exactly. It's Class Rank that trumps GPA every day of the week. That, along with your standardized test scores comprise most of.

Also keep in mind that your academic profile also consists of the strength of classes and types of classes you've taken (AP, 4 math, chem, physics, 4 English, etc.), your High School profile, etc. Of course GPA is part of this but you can't have a high class rank without a high GPA...you get the picture.
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Seriously... the two things you can control are GPA and the test scores. And exactly how is your class rank calculated? through your GPA. Taking harder classes that weight your score is a given.
 
Wellllllll, kinda. Many schools across the US do not offer AP or IB level classes. These college level classes are factored into your "weighted" GPA. So those schools that do not offer the higher level course work would have a lower GPA in comparison, "non-weighted" GPA. Even though SA do not consider AP and IB classes and rely on class ranking, I will not discourage a student from taking them. You still need those classes for two reasons: You will develop a better foundation of that subject and you will be better prepared for college even if its your Plan B.

Class ranking and GPA are like, fraternal twins.

Math, Chem and Physics are well known to be Plebe killers. However, the world is very hungry for those who are strong in the hard sciences. If you have that talent, exploit it!

Push Hard, Press Forward
 
fencersmother said:
What should be your goal???? Please dear poster, READ what's already here. When you do so, you will see that your goal should be 800/800 on your SAT and 36 on your ACT. Yes, that should be your GOAL. Will you achieve this goal? Maybe, maybe not. But you should STRIVE for that.

We simply cannot even begin to "chance" you. What AP/IB/Dual enrollment courses have you taken? All sorts of blanks here.

Now, you have your GOAL.
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I have taken all honors classes throughout my High School career, plus AP Euro History (soph), APUSH and AP Chem (JR), next year I will be taking AP Econ, AP French, AP Gov't, AP Literature, and AP Bio. My school did not offer any AP classes freshmen year, and they only offered AP European History sophomore year.
 
tug_boat said:
Wellllllll, kinda. Many schools across the US do not offer AP or IB level classes. These college level classes are factored into your "weighted" GPA. So those schools that do not offer the higher level course work would have a lower GPA in comparison, "non-weighted" GPA. Even though SA do not consider AP and IB classes and rely on class ranking, I will not discourage a student from taking them. You still need those classes for two reasons: You will develop a better foundation of that subject and you will be better prepared for college even if its your Plan B.

Class ranking and GPA are like, fraternal twins.

Math, Chem and Physics are well known to be Plebe killers. However, the world is very hungry for those who are strong in the hard sciences. If you have that talent, exploit it!

Push Hard, Press Forward
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I've seen this written in the forums before and don't understand what is meant by "SA's don't consider AP and IB classes". We were told from the get-go from USNA, "Take the hardest courses available to you AND do well in them. Rigor of courses is very important." Shoot, my kiddo attended a gifted school (which was the most rigorous program available) on that advice, hoping it would better his chances. So, that statement about "not considering AP/IB" throws me for a loop each time I read it.
 
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Letsdothis said:
I've seen this written in the forums before and don't understand what is meant by "SA's don't consider AP and IB classes". We were told from the get-go from USNA, "Take the hardest courses available to you AND do well in them. Rigor of courses is very important." Shoot, my kiddo attended a gifted school (which was the most rigorous program available) on that advice, hoping it would better his chances. So, that statement about "not considering AP/IB" throws me for a loop each time I read it.
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Its really quite simple. Not all high schools provide AP/IB class work. So would that be fair to exclude someone from that congressional area? But they demonstrated a solid understanding of the subject through ACT/SAT test scores, they may survive college level work.

Push Hard, Press Forward
 
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