CFA Test Results

[Rocko]

I run a 4.41 official 40 yard dash with a 1.48 10yard dash. I also run track.

Your 10 yard dash = 1.48 Seconds X 4 = 5.92 Seconds

Your shuttle time is 5.90 seconds (40 yards).

Shuttle run = 10 yards, stop, touch line, reverse directions and repeat 3 more times....

So your 10 yard average is faster if you stop, touch the ground and reverse directions 3 times?

I'm going to assume your ACT math scores are low so you are shooting to maximize your CFA scores!

 

[BoLwife]

I suppose the very worst thing you can do for someone seeking attention, is to give them more, but I feel compelled to point out that over on another thread you were asking people to tell you "why" you should consider USMA, and then in this thread, you say that you've already determined that it is the best fit for you. This seems odd. Also, my husband, an Academy grad, who played football at USAFA and played high school football and track said that if your numbers were legit, you'd be a blue chip athlete recruited by everyone from sprinting coaches to football coaches. The fact that, as you say, you've only gotten "worthless" offers, also seems odd. If you're going to invent a story, at least make it a little more believable, or if the stories are true, be willing to explain all the inconsistencies to people.

 

[mom3boys]

We have a board game called "Fact or Crap." I'm gonna have to go with the others and play the "crap" card here.

 

[IcedZealot]

Actually, the quickest time for the shuttle run is 7.8 seconds. Average is 8.9 seconds. And to be able to do a 5.9 shuttle run means that you can run 30 feet in 1 second, and 1/2 second to stop, touch, and turn around.

 

[jackiejyp7]

If these are not your times or if they are, they will be checked by the academy. They can call your test administrator to verify your scores and probably will. Your test administrator must, at least for West Point, put in the scores themselves and send it. So it's not possibly to lie and get away with it. Whether those are your scores, just know they can and will be checked.

 

[Cidgrad130]

Perhaps the OP has confused the CFA shuttle with the "pro-shuttle" that is used at football combines? That is a 5-10-5 shuttle...but for someone with a 4.4 in the 40, he would most likely be running about a 5.2 pro shuttle. So either way, something strange with his self-reported results.

These "rate my chances" threads with out-of-this-world results (academic, athletic, or EC's) always come off as narcissistic to me. All these folks have to do is spend about 15 minutes searching to find out how their objectives rack and stack.

 

[Jspar16]

Perhaps the OP has confused the CFA shuttle with the "pro-shuttle" that is used at football combines? That is a 5-10-5 shuttle...but for someone with a 4.4 in the 40, he would most likely be running about a 5.2 pro shuttle. So either way, something strange with his self-reported results.

These "rate my chances" threads with out-of-this-world results (academic, athletic, or EC's) always come off as narcissistic to me. All these folks have to do is spend about 15 minutes searching to find out how their objectives rack and stack.

I agree, but also as i candidate i find it more comforting to have other people verify that my scores are competitive, rather than a chart. I dont think most people looking to see their chances are trying to brag, but are rather just looking for someone else to say that they are good to go

 

[hawk]

Great CFA results, but the CFA only accounts for 10% of your whole candidate score. And from what I've heard, the CFA is a pass or fail type test so as long as you pass, your scores don't matter.

CFA is not "pass/fail", it is a scored event that has minimums for each section. Yes, "only" 10% of WCS, but in competitive districts even a point or two can make the difference between slot winner, appt from NWL, and QNS.

As one rep put it, you do not want to leave points on the table!

We need to drop the "pass/fail" CFA thinking as it really only applies to heavily recruited candidates.

Its also one entirely within your control. It is possible to significantly improve your scores in 2-3 mths of focused effort. Much harder to impact any of your other WCS areas other than standardized testing late in the process.

 

[ca2midwestmom]

hawk - we have always been under the impression the CFA is pass/fail. In correspondence my DS received last May, it specifically says "You must pass each of the six events to pass the CFA." "If you fail an event, we will notify you and if authorized, you will have to retake the entire test." His initial BB throw score was below the average and probably at or close to the minimum. He was authorized to retake the CFA. (He changed his technique on the BB throw and it became easier.) Soon after submitting those scores he received an appointment (in Jan). He is not a recruited athlete. He did not have a Principal nom.

 

[Stevewar2]

P/F

It is very much Pass/Fail. However, for those people needing every point - it could make a difference. I'm sure that you get more points the closer you get to a MAX score. My DD just need to pass and she was GTG. Others may need a really good score because they are in a competitive district or are weak in some area (no varsity letter or sports etc...).

 

[hawk]

Pass/Fail is normally used to describe tests which result only in a Pass or Fail score. Not a numeric score. Yes, USMA only indicates "At Risk / Not at Risk" to the candidate, but it's still a numeric score which is part of your WCS.

So the CFA is only "Pass/Fail" only in the same sense that SAT/ACT is.... there is a minimum score or you are disqualified.

So unless something has changed recently, it's a scored test, but with disqualifying minimums. But every bit of higher score up to the max will help improve your WCS. Which most candidates need, every point!

Consistent RC and FFR input: Don't leave points on the table!

Your individual candidate may not need the points, and will be told just to "pass" the CFA. Might even be common for recruited candidates. (Athletics and URM)

But that is not the norm, nor does it make the test unscored.

We also received strong input there is a subjective aspect to the CFA in the boards... if you have weaker athletics, a strong CFA performance proactively addresses the question "Can this candidate handle the physical aspect?".

Others on the forum who have board experience can comment better, but that's what RC and FFR types indicated. Very clear input, and consistent across academies.

So our conclusion, it's very risky as a candidate to assume the CFA is pass/fail, just get close to the average, try to guess the minimums, etc.

Competitive candidates in our area are maxing many of the CFA items, and we tell them not to stop trying to improve until they are at least well above average for any they did not max.

But we are a very competitive state, with a large number of candidates and cadets.

I'll also say that every year we see cadets (and cadet candidates) in our state who were borderline CFA but recruited otherwise drop out due to the physical aspect.

Point being: If you can't beat the averages on the CFA, you are probably going to be very challenged at USMA in Beast, CFT, and your ongoing APFT's. (For all but the BB throw, anyway!)