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Hello!

I've seen this question in a few other threads, but I can't find a direct answer.

What does the "Total Score" CFA status refer to? (Naval Academy portal)
My "Total Score" is 357.98. I have no idea what that means. How does this score affect my profile? Is my total score bad?

While I'm technically "qualified", I'm wondering if my total score isn't competitive? I didn't fail the CFA but my scores are definitely not high. I've heard a lot of people say a lot of different things about the importance of the CFA in general, is it worth retaking the test or should I spend my time improving other areas of my profile?

Thanks in advance!
 

Fmbr

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That score also appeared in my portal. I read online all six events are scored out of 100 points and the sum is your “total score.” A 600 would be a maxed out CFA, for reference.
 

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I don't know what your score means, but CFA is about 25% of what they look at. With a 358/600 I would probably retake it, or at least work on improving. Academics are 50% though, so if your grades will suffer for you to train your body, then focus on academics.
 

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I don't know what your score means, but CFA is about 25% of what they look at.
Do you have a source for this statement ? I've been a BGO for almost 20 years, gone through several training programs, and have never heard (or seen) this statement before. If you heard this for USAFA or USMA, it does not necessarily apply to USNA.

While I'm technically "qualified", I'm wondering if my total score isn't competitive? I
For USNA , CFA is pass or fail. If you pass, you can compete for the Appointment within your nomination pool. USNA does not necessarily compare how well you did on CFA with those you are competing with. It can , of course, and I have heard of Noms and Appointments taking it into consideration, so you want to do as well as you can on CFA, but your CFA score isn't going to make or break your application.
 
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That score also appeared in my portal. I read online all six events are scored out of 100 points and the sum is your “total score.” A 600 would be a maxed out CFA, for reference.
Thanks for your reply and CONGRATS ON YOUR APPOINTMENT!
 
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Do you have a source for this statement ? I've been a BGO for almost 20 years, gone through several training programs, and have never heard (or seen) this statement before. If you heard this for USAFA or USMA, it does not necessarily apply to USNA.


For USNA , CFA is pass or fail. If you pass, you can compete for the Appointment within your nomination pool. USNA does not necessarily compare how well you did on CFA with those you are competing with. It can , of course, and I have heard of Noms and Appointments taking it into consideration, so you want to do as well as you can on CFA, but your CFA score isn't going to make or break your application.
I didn't know that. Thank you for your reply!
 
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I don't know what your score means, but CFA is about 25% of what they look at. With a 358/600 I would probably retake it, or at least work on improving. Academics are 50% though, so if your grades will suffer for you to train your body, then focus on academics.
Thank you for the reply :)
 

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Do you have a source for this statement ? I've been a BGO for almost 20 years, gone through several training programs, and have never heard (or seen) this statement before. If you heard this for USAFA or USMA, it does not necessarily apply to USNA.


For USNA , CFA is pass or fail. If you pass, you can compete for the Appointment within your nomination pool. USNA does not necessarily compare how well you did on CFA with those you are competing with. It can , of course, and I have heard of Noms and Appointments taking it into consideration, so you want to do as well as you can on CFA, but your CFA score isn't going to make or break your application.
Many of the for-profit SA consulting firms post tables estimating the points breakdown for various aspects of the evaluation of an applicant’s package, by SA. They are careful to note the information is derived from publicly accessible sources such as GAO reports and other research, and often give a +/- percentage error estimate. Of course, none of those unofficial sites can post a direct link to an actual SA website that posts the current algorithm of how an application is scored. They take the best estimate they can derive from open source analysis. Nothing wrong with that, but I think candidates find these sites and take it as primary source, official material.
 

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It's also important to keep in mind that SAs may view certain elements of the CFA as more important than others. Historically, USNA has focused on crunches, push-ups and the mile run because those used to be the elements of the PRT (with 1.5 mile run). Now the PRT has somewhat different -- but analogous -- events. Word is that the Bball throw is important for USMA (along with other events). The CFA is also looked at in combination with your sports. For example, a nationally ranked swimmer might be cut a bit of slack with the mile run, assuming it was good enough to ensure that person could handle PS and pass the PRT. If someone isn't particularly active in sports, the CFA takes on greater importance.
 

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It's also important to keep in mind that SAs may view certain elements of the CFA as more important than others. Historically, USNA has focused on crunches, push-ups and the mile run because those used to be the elements of the PRT (with 1.5 mile run). Now the PRT has somewhat different -- but analogous -- events. Word is that the Bball throw is important for USMA (along with other events). The CFA is also looked at in combination with your sports. For example, a nationally ranked swimmer might be cut a bit of slack with the mile run, assuming it was good enough to ensure that person could handle PS and pass the PRT. If someone isn't particularly active in sports, the CFA takes on greater importance.
To echo this, my BGO officer for this years application cycle heavily stressed my mile run time.
 

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Where do you see a CFA score in the portal? Mine just has a checkmark under the 'complete' heading for the CFA. My application status is has been 'complete - pending review' for a few weeks now.
 

JetGirl2022

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Where did you guys see the score on your portal. All I see is qualified? Can I calculate my score myself with some algorithm?
 

Fmbr

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Where did you guys see the score on your portal. All I see is qualified? Can I calculate my score myself with some algorithm?
The score was only on there for a couple of days about a month ago—I think it was a mistake. If you're qualified I'm sure you're fine CFA wise.
 
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