CFA vs AFA results

[Big Ugly]

Good evening future Mid parents:


I was hoping a few of the group had already come across this question and could offer their latest insight-

Can the results of the Candidate Fitness Assessment (CFA) used for the Naval Academy application be submitted in place of the NROTC Applicant Fitness Assessment (AFA) or is the applicant required to take both tests?


Hang in there you hard working parents.

 

[NJROTC-CC]

https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/usna-nrotc-fitness-test.56837/

 

[Holden100]

Good evening future Mid parents:


I was hoping a few of the group had already come across this question and could offer their latest insight-

Can the results of the Candidate Fitness Assessment (CFA) used for the Naval Academy application be submitted in place of the NROTC Applicant Fitness Assessment (AFA) or is the applicant required to take both tests?


Hang in there you hard working parents.

Good evening future Mid parents:


I was hoping a few of the group had already come across this question and could offer their latest insight-

Can the results of the Candidate Fitness Assessment (CFA) used for the Naval Academy application be submitted in place of the NROTC Applicant Fitness Assessment (AFA) or is the applicant required to take both tests?


Hang in there you hard working parents.

DS was allowed to submit his CFA from the summer seminar for his NROTC application. We’re hoping that’s sufficient.

 

[CrewDad]

The tests are different, CFA vs PRT. PRT has 1.5 mile run and CFA tests 1 mile. Cannot be the same. All tests are done sequentially. It’s a different test even though they test similar strengths. In 2017, my DS did them separately for USNA/SAs, NROTC, AFROTC, AROTC, USCGA. They were required to be performed separately for each program. I would double and triple check this. It is an important part of qualifications. You get 2 chances to submit improved test scores. PRT tests are also changing for the services. Army has already changed theirs. And so is Navy soon to change theirs.

 

[justdoit19]

DS was allowed to submit his CFA from the summer seminar for his NROTC application. We’re hoping that’s sufficient.

DS and myself were at a college admissions tour and met with NROTC during part of that. DS asked the exact same question (can CFA from summer seminar be used for NROTC fitness test) and they chuckled, made fun of the basketball throw and said no. Offered to do it when he came for his officer interview.

Additionally, when big brother competed for both NROTC and USNA, he wasn’t able to use USNA CFA either. Had to perform and submit the NROTC test. So I would expect to have to perform it even though CFA has been submitted. Perhaps it’s kind of an FYI thing for your recruiter to look at, but not an official part of your submitted application. Have you already hit “submit”, done the interviews and completed your statements of understanding?

 

[THParent]

...DS asked the exact same question (can CFA from summer seminar be used for NROTC fitness test) and they chuckled, made fun of the basketball throw and said no...

Yeah. I think the basketball throw is pretty laughable, myself.

 

[NJROTC-CC]

[QUOTE="THParent, post: 682513, member: 39391]Yeah. I think the basketball throw is pretty laughable, myself.[/QUOTE]

I tend to agree. If a candidate can do 75 pushup and 18 pullups, I would say they have plenty of upper body strength. But then, if they just learn the correct technique and practice a bit, the basketball throw should be no problem. Others have said: seeing whether a candidate takes the time to research, figure out and practice the basketball throw (which requires a technique that is not intuitive for most) is all part of the "test" to see who is thoughtful and diligent enough to learn how to accomplish the mission of acing the test.

 

[Holden100]

DS was allowed to submit his CFA from the summer seminar for his NROTC application. We’re hoping that’s sufficient.

DS and myself were at a college admissions tour and met with NROTC during part of that. DS asked the exact same question (can CFA from summer seminar be used for NROTC fitness test) and they chuckled, made fun of the basketball throw and said no. Offered to do it when he came for his officer interview.

Additionally, when big brother competed for both NROTC and USNA, he wasn’t able to use USNA CFA either. Had to perform and submit the NROTC test. So I would expect to have to perform it even though CFA has been submitted. Perhaps it’s kind of an FYI thing for your recruiter to look at, but not an official part of your submitted application. Have you already hit “submit”, done the interviews and completed your statements of understanding?

Thank you, I’ll let him know to follow up with his recruiter. When he last checked his portal the only items remaining to be processed were the guidance counselor eval and math teacher eval. He had his officer interview a couple weeks ago. I’m not sure if they discussed his CFA/AFA, but he should follow up with him as well. He’s also applied AROTC & West Point, so knows he’s gonna have to redo & video some when the 2nd step kit opens up for WP.

His biggest issue at the moment is getting his GC to submit those evaluations for both USNA & NROTC. He had a counselor change and was told about it just last week, so had to have those emails changed & re-sent. His BGO wanted all that done before their interview, so he’s just waiting...(and should probably get back to practicing that basketball throw, lol)!

 

[Old Navy BGO]

Yeah. I think the basketball throw is pretty laughable, myself.

Long, long ago....past recent memory, someone told me that the purpose of the basketball throw was confirm the absence of some shoulder condition , like rotator cuff , problems. The explanation was that there was no way to pass the throw if that condition was present. (Take that story for what its worth --pass the throw and its a non issue !)

It is also kind of a test of motivation --it's not something kids do on a regular basis (or ever !), and they have to practice.

 

[Big Ugly]

It’s damn right a measure of motivation.


I would love to see a show of hands at I-day of how many parents were at the receiving end of those basketball throws; retrieving the ball in the snow or fielding it before it went down the driveway and the golden retrievers squirreled it away.


Without the practice or technique most kids will not excel and they will be missing the point of the exercise.

 

[Holden100]

It’s damn right a measure of motivation.


I would love to see a show of hands at I-day of how many parents were at the receiving end of those basketball throws; retrieving the ball in the snow or fielding it before it went down the driveway and the golden retrievers squirreled it away.


Without the practice or technique most kids will not excel and they will be missing the point of the exercise.

11 PM one night in the middle of our street trying to measure in the dark. Much easier (on his knees especially) the next day at the HS football field. Once he had the technique down he was good to go, but it was a struggle.

 

[NJROTC-CC]

someone told me that the purpose of the basketball throw was confirm the absence of some shoulder condition , like rotator cuff , problems. The explanation was that there was no way to pass the throw if that condition was present. (Take that story for what its worth --pass the throw and its a non issue !)

That would be a good test for only the throwing arm. I have problems with the rotator cuff on my catching arm that I think I got while coaching baseball and reaching up with my glove hand way over my head to stop a rocket that almost took my arm off