Discussion in 'Coast Guard Academy - USCGA' started by Luigi59, Jun 6, 2011.
All without the need for Congressional nominations. Pretty impressive.
Nice job, Admissions Office!
An article in yesterday's Navy Times also mentioned that one-third of the incoming USCGA class was made up of minorities. Interestingly, it contained the following quote: "The academy has developed several programs meant to help retain those incoming minority students, especially during their “fragile first year,” Stosz said. This summer, minority cadets will be able to get acclimated to the academy a few days before the rest of the class arrives June 27." What does that mean? Surely it is not implying that minority recuits will have a different R-Day experience than non-minorities?
Wow. No fair.
I know my daughter's friend (who received an appointment) was invited to come up early. He is going to be at the Academy close to the the 22nd for a "minority" thing. He didn't give us more details... We were curious as well....
Maybe someone could explain this in more detail?
As an alum, I find that statement by RDML Stosz disturbing. If they can't cut it, it's not because of the color of their skin. There is not "special program" for minorities in the fleet who can't cut it like the majority....they find the door the same one someone in the majority world.
Ladies and gentlemen, we not introduce the watering down of the Coast Guard Academy in order to get different skin colors throught the door....the only color that they should recognize is BLUE, because they all bleed BLUE.
The two retention programs were introduced last summer. Here is the press release:
Couldn't agree with you more!
I agree as well that standards should not be compromised, but the descriptions of the new programs don't seem to lower the Academy's standards.
No, but it excludes the rest of the incoming class which smacks of reverse discrimination....shouldn't these resources be made available to ALL incoming cadets???
The way I read it the resources are available to all incoming cadets. The only advantage these cadets will have is that they are getting a special introduction to them.
Special introduction implies that somehow these kids need things presented differently and separately from their peers. Is this really true? I doubt it. If I were a minority cadet I would HATE to think that anyone might think that I needed "special" treatment. These kids are the best and the brightest...stop treating them with kid gloves and EXPECT them to meet and exceed the expectations set forth at the academy.
Separate but equal.
It saddens me greatly to read this thread. It is the first I have heard of this. My DD received no special invitation to arrive early to be acclimated in advance. Is she any less important? Not to me...
Good afternoon all:
I completely understand how this news might be disheartening to some. And while it might not seem fair, and perhaps, indeed is not fair, the world our children grow up in, is not fair.
Our daughter did not get an Academy appointment. Like many of your sons and daughters, she worked very hard to get to the Academy, but in the end -your brightest and best won out. It broke her heart, but not her spirit. Try not to get mired down in this. Maybe this advance orientation will work, maybe it won't but contempt prior to investigation does not do any good to anyone. The Academy is doing what they need to do faced with pressure from multiple touchpoints. On June 27, you will see your son and daughter on R-day. We will not. Hopefully that puts things in perspective.
The academy is doing what they feel is necessary to ensure that more URM cadets are graduating, not just being appointed.
Otherwise, it's just lip-service to the diversity issue.
Their data shows that the retention rates in the "URM group" are below the level of "other groups," therefore, the two retention programs are currently targeted only at them, but as stated, they hope to make these programs available to all in the near future.
Getting them to the door is nice, but these acclimation programs may make the difference in whether or not they stay.
I'm more concerned with 4 years from June 27....when my classmates are faced with leading kids who wouldn't handle the pressures of "that tough first year" like other kids could. There are many kids who won't be there on June 27. They're none of my concern....after this 4 year "experience" however, they pop out on the other side of a factory less prepared....all in the name of diversity, and all with lives on the line.
I couldn't care less about the pressures applied by a fat minority who represents a district in the state of Maryland...I'm am concerned about the force that feels the need to recruit people who NEED that extra help to get through a program tens of thousands have been through before them.
Getting through the door isn't the feat. If URM's can't make it through the same program that everyone else can, likely society should have prepared them better....that is not on the service after 17-23 years of their lives.
Well, that was mean spirited. I don't think you really meant, as an officer in the service, that my daughter is none of your concern, did you?
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