Chances for appointment to the USMMA! Any tips?

Usnavy2019

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Hello,

I am seeking an appointment to the USMMA for the Class of 2019. I would like to know how competitive I am. I am a male who is 16 years old.

School is a competitive private college prep school. You have to apply and be accepted to the school and you have to take an entrance exam. I was the minority in this process because I came from a public school where the majority of applicants coming from Catholic schools. I have just finished sophomore year.

Weighted GPA: 3.2 (4.0 scale)

Class Rank* 100 out of 250 (Approximate) (Top 40%)
* School does not rank students, ranking based of test scores

Pre ACT: 21 (Composite, Scale out of 32) (Tp 16% in the nation for Sophomores sitting for exam)

Pre ACT to ACT: 26 (Composite)

Will take both ACT and SAT Next Year

Starting SAT and ACT Prep Class in Fall

On Honor Roll for each semester attended

Clubs:
Aviation Club Instructor (Officer)

Sports:
Freshman Year: Frosh/Soph Men's Volleyball, Scholar Athelte, played Libero and Defensive Specialist

Sophomore Year: Junior Varsity Men's Volleyball, 2nd Runner-Up for Most Improved, played Libero and occaisionally Defensive Specialist

Extra-Cirricular Activities:
Boy Scouts (2008-Present)

Eagle Scout (Earned February 2013)

Eagle Project was buliding dog agility equipment for the local SPCA shelter.

Earned 25 Merit Badges

Graduated from National Youth Leadership Training (Fenruary 2010)

Staffed National Youth Leadership Training (February 2011)

Senior Patrol Leader (Highest Youth Leader in Troop, Led around 40 boys, Responsible for conducting troop meetings, planning troop meetings, leading the leadership team, working with the Scoutmaster on running the troop, planning outings, and instructing the new people in leadership positions on how to do their job )

Assistant Senior Patrol Leader (Assisted Senior Patrol Leader, Second Highest Youth Leader)

Patrol Leader (Led 6 boys and reported to SPL)

Den Chief (mentored Cub Scouts through the process of becoming a Boy Scout)

Librarian (Maintained Troop's Merit Badge Book Library)

Will become Junior Assistant Scoutmaster in December (JASM is like an Assistant Scoutmaster, just you are not 18 yet.)

Trail Maintenance Crew

Led Color Guard for past 4 years at 4th of July Parade

Helped Build Storage Boxes for Local High School Music Teacher

Helped Build planter boxes for local Middle School Science Teacher

Built Shed for an Abused Women Shelter

Order of the Arrow (Boy Scout's National Honor Society) (2011-Present)
Elected into the Order in March 2011

Passed Ordeal In August 2011 (Ordeal is physical labor that lasts all day. Scant food is provided and you must stay silent the enitre day.)

Became a Brotherhood Honor Member in June 2012 (Brotherhood is the second-highest honor one can earn.)

Chapter Vice Chief (Second in Command of all OA activites for four cities.)

Lodge Trading Post Manager (Responsible for selling patches and apperal and managed inventory for the three counties the Lodge covers.)

Assistant CVC for Administration for Section Meeting. (Second in Command of Administration Staff for event that hosted OA members from all of Northern California and Northwestern Nevada.)

Assistant to the Western Region Chief at Section Meeting (Responsible for managing the youth in charge of all Order of the Arrow activities of the entire Western Region*.)

*Western Region Includes: All U.S. Pacific Territories, Councils in Asia (Military children), Hawaii, Alaska, West Texas, West South Dakota, West Nebraska, Colorado, and All States West of the above named states.


Sea Scouts (Nautical Branch of Boy Scouts) (2010-Present)
Unit is the 2013 National Flagship (Unit is the best in the nation, ranking is based on youth members' accomplishments)

Selcted to Sail aborad the USCGC Barque Eagle this summer (National Competition based on merit. Merit decided upon academic, scouting, extra-cirricular, and community service activities and accomplishments. The best 6 applications are selected.)

Apprentice (1st rank, requires basic seamanship skills)

Ordinary (2nd Rank, regarded as the hardest rank to earn, although not the highest. Regarded as the hardest becuase you have to learn a plethora of new skills and use them competently. Advanced Seamanship is needed for this rank.)

Working towards Able (Third rank, refining skills learned into an art. A samll increase of seamanship is needed)

Quartermaster should be completed by Senior Year or by the end of Freshman Year (Quartermaster is the highest rank achievable. Only those who show expert seamanship and leadership are given the award. The award is equivalent to Eagle Scout. The final requirement for the rank is to become the CO of your unit's vessel for 48 hours and serve as the CO underway.)

Yeoman (Administration and Logistics Officer)

Crew Leader (Leads crew of 6-7 crewmen)

Candidate for Boatswain's Mate (Similar to XO/ASPL [described above])

Unit Award for Heroism (Saved woman from being crushed by her boat after she fell overboard. Two crewman and I pulled her out of the water, pushed the boat away, alerted the operator to cut the engines, and then treated her for hypothermia. She fully recovered.)

Received Small Boat Handler Award (Given to those who can competently operate and command a small vessel. Assesment included an oral review and an underway exam.)

Crew Leader's Course Graduate (One Course)

Crew Leader's Course Instructor (Three Courses)

Boatswain's* Course Graduate

* Boatswain is similar to SPL (described above)

Venturing Bronze Award for Sea Scouting (Venturing is the High-Adventure branch of Boy Scouts. Earned for achieving Ordinary.)

On the Unit's Unarmed USMC Regulation Drill Team for past two years (Being on the drill team is a coveted position in the unit. The 9 most elite crewmen are selected each year. The unit has 20 crewman in it. I would like to participate on the Drill Team at USMMA.)

On Ceremonial Color Guard for Unit (Would like to be on the Color Guard at USMMA)

Long Cruise Badge (Given to crewmen who show competency underway for 14 days of more)

Coastal Clean-Up for Local Marina

Refurbished Docks and Gangways at Regional Park's lagoon

Park Clean Up at Regional Park

Pressure Washing Docks at Local Marina (every 3 months)

Helped replant Local Marina's garden

Placed flags along parade route for 4th of July Parade.
Coxswained Scuttlebutt event during this year's competiotion season. (Scuttlebutt is an event at Sea Scout competitions where you hoist a 55 gallon metal barrel with the top open. You hoist the barrel up 3 feet. You use three spars, a line to tie a knot around the barrel, and blocks and tackle[pullies and rope] to hoist the barrel. You put the spars in a tripod and bring the tripod up. You hoist the barrel and then bring down the tripod. The barrel is filled with water 3 inches from the top. Nothing can touch the water and no water can be spilled. You cannot talk in this event except for the Coxswain, which is me. I give all the commands and make sure everything is going fast as possible and that everything is safe. I led the team to a new record of 45 seconds. 2 minutes is a good times and a great time is 1:30.)

Community Service:
Altar Server for past 5 years

Lead Altar Server for 2.5 years (Leads Alta Serving Crew on altar and conducts Altar Server training.)

Part of Catholic Teens in Action (Youth Group that meets monthy and performs monthly service projects around the community)

Served Meals at St. Anthony's Dining Room to the less fortunate in the Tenderloin (poorest) District of San Francisco.

Publiciy Assistant Chair for School's Cereal Drive

Collected Donations for the Get on the Bus Program (Get on the Bus Program allows kids to visit thier parents in prison. Donations were for entertainment devices for the kids so they can have something to do during the long bus ride.)



Why I want to go to USMMA: I have always wanted to do something near the water. I never went boating but ships and the ocean fascinated me. When I joined Sea Scouts, it was the perfect porgram for me. It combines what I want to do, which is boating, with the military. Sea Scouts teaches you things such as drill and military bearing. We even wear Navy uniforms. My ultimate goal would to become an active duty Navy officer. I would love to be a pilot. I have also looked into becoming a Surface Warfare Officer. Also, I love the majors that KP offers. Marine Transportation looks like the one for me. I really enjoy charting and deck work. I enjoy everything about it from actually plotting the course and steering the ship, down to docking the ship working with the mooring lines. I plot courses, steer, and handle mooring line on a regular basis for Sea Scouts. Why not major in what you love to do. I know I will be successful at KP because my passion for my chosen major as well as my motivation to become an active duty officer in the Navy.
 
From what I know and have seen, you look competative but the areas of focus should be ensuring you end up wit very solid standardized test scores (either ACT or SAT) and your 3.2 GPA - you don't mention any AP courses, etc so the most you could do to improve your chances are likely in those two areas.

Good Luck!
 
Alright. I would also like to know if athletic recruiting helps. I would like to compete on the Offshore Sailing Team. Should I contact the coach?

BTW How important are extra-cirricular and community service? Does it help that I have seamanship skills from Sea Scouts?

Thanks!
 
You note that your goal is to be a Naval officer. Don't you think that Annapolis would be a better choice?
 
I volunteer as an admission field rep in my home area, and from what i have seen you appear to be competitive, but make sure the standardized test scores come in solid and make sure you are taking advanced math classes through high school.

OK, as to the career aspirations...the Merchant marine Academy's stated goal is to graduate MERCHANT SEAMEN...Deck and Engineering Officers first and foremost. You really should consider that in your statements to the academy when applying and you should think about it prior to applying. Now, that being said...many a Kings Point grad goes on to a fine career in the US Navy. It is certainly not out of the question. But, graduating Naval Officers is the primary function of the US Naval Academy...not Kings Point.

Good luck to you, Sir. Should you be fortunate enough to attend Kings Point you will be one of the very lucky few who graduated from this nations premier merchant marine academy!
 
I volunteer as an admission field rep in my home area, and from what i have seen you appear to be competitive, but make sure the standardized test scores come in solid and make sure you are taking advanced math classes through high school.

OK, as to the career aspirations...the Merchant marine Academy's stated goal is to graduate MERCHANT SEAMEN...Deck and Engineering Officers first and foremost. You really should consider that in your statements to the academy when applying and you should think about it prior to applying. Now, that being said...many a Kings Point grad goes on to a fine career in the US Navy. It is certainly not out of the question. But, graduating Naval Officers is the primary function of the US Naval Academy...not Kings Point.

Good luck to you, Sir. Should you be fortunate enough to attend Kings Point you will be one of the very lucky few who graduated from this nations premier merchant marine academy!

Kram1,

Are you saying that if an applicant puts in his statements that his/her desire is to be a Naval Officer, than USMMA will likely pass on admission? In the recruiting emails sent by USMMA, it clearly states that is one of the options on graduation. I just wonder if that is an applicants aspirations, and that is in line with the recruiting literature, why would that work against an applicant? Just wondering what your thoughts are as a representative.
 
No, not saying that, but it is always wise to remember what the stated purpose of any institution is during the application and admissions process. When I speak with potential candidates for the first time I am always struck in a positive way by those who understand the primary purpose of the academy.

My son is a 2001 grad of Kings Point. He sailed with the merchant fleet for several years then went to med school with the Navy and serves as a Naval Medical Officer currently...so, no, I was not saying that, just adding a bit of caution to all potential applicants to be sure and understand the point of the Academy's being in the first place.

Good luck to you...
 
I always suggest that it never hurts to contact the coach and make your desire to participate in/on a team known Even if you aren't a targeted athletic recruit, it may help for them to pair you up with someone from that team when you do an overnight visit (which if it is possible I always recommend.) Athletic recruiting counts but in smaller, more competative classes it counts less.

As for Sea Scouts, etc. the leadership positions and your Eagle Scout are likely to be thought of more highly. That said, your particpation and continued interest in Sea Scouts shows a clear interest for andin the sea and that will likely be well considered.

Note, the competition for spots at USMMA is getting tougher and tougher, as it is for all the Federal Academies. I mention that because as I and others said before the weakest things on the current status you listed is your GPA (again with no mention of AP courses or advanced mat track). Additionally, doing well on your standardized test scores is key; and making sure you do well in one or the other is important.

Good Luck!
 
Thank you for all of the replies so far. I am taking an SAT prep course this summer, so hopefully this allow me to do well on the SAT. Could I ask for a prep appointment if my grades are what keep me out of the academy? I would be willing to take that appointment if it means I would be able to go to USMMA. Also, what is the difference between a principle and alternate nomination?
 
I do not think anyone tells you specifically what caused you to be principle, alternate or declined. In general, as previously stated they are looking for the following in a candidate :
In no particular order....

-Can articulate in writing why you want to be a merchant mariner

-Have challenged yourself academically (particularly math and science) throughout your HS career.

-Have achieved a competitive GPA

-Performed well on standardized tests

-Have participated in extra curricular activities

-Have been busy OUTSIDE school...work, clubs, volunteered services.

KP demands the highest level of multi-tasking, and performing well under pressure in a dynamic environment.

Good luck!
 
Ok. Thank you. I think I will do well on the SAT with the prep class. Kram1, the reason I am really attracted to Kings Point because of the options. I know that it is the Merchant Marine Academy. I see your POV and I agree to with it. However, there probably wouldn't be the option to commission into the armed forces if they soley wanted to produce Merchant Marine Officers. There are people that graduate and commission into all branches, even the Army and Air Force, who do not even have ties to the sea. My first choice would be to become an AD officer in the Navy. That doesn't mean I would have a problem going merchant fleet. I have been considering the Military Sealift Command as well. I have also considered the Coast Guard and the Marine Corps. I really love the options it gives me. Since my grades are my weakest part of my application, could I ask for a prep appointment when I apply? I am willing to do this if it means I can attend USMMA. Does anyone have any guidance on this or has been in this situation before? Also is the admissions office willing to answer the questions I have, or should I keep my questions on the forums? Should I do both?
 
Hello all,

Just an update on my stats:

I raised my GPA to a 3.3 and I got a 3.78 last semester. I currently have a 4.0 and my PSAT scores were 61 CR 64 M and 51W. For Senior Year, I will be taking Pre-Calc, Honors Physics and hopefully AP Gov or AP Psych.

Any feedback is appreciated!!
 
Great work getting your grades up! I am currently seeking an appointment for the C/O 2018 USAFA. My GPA is 3.9 and my SAT scores are only slightly higher. The portion of your resume that I would boost would be the leadership activities within your school and community. It's hard to give a clear cut answer to how competitive you are, but I would say if you really focus on this goal you can achieve it.

Are you captain on any team sports?
 
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