Cheating probe initiated

Discussion in 'Air Force Academy - USAFA' started by rjb, May 24, 2019.

  1. rjb

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    Oh my. Here we go again. It must be USAFA’s turn in the hot seat for this kind of issue. It looks like the preliminary stages, so there will be more to the story.

    “The best of the best” often have toes, feet and shins of clay, and cadets and mids who never would have done this in HS, or had no need to, will bamboozle themselves into thinking it’s all right to do X because everyone is doing it, or outright do X because of the pressure and “it’s not that big a deal.”

    Here’s hoping it’s not one of those sweeping ones where seniors get derailed from graduation and parents, instead of celebrating starting today through 30 April, aren’t up in the air with worry about their DD or DS and them being degreeless, commissionless and owing 6 figures to Uncle Sam.

    I hope it comes to nothing, or that it’s in the lower classes, which might have fewer repercussions.
     
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    "Scores of freshmen."

    Sounds like a lot.
     
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    Considering all freshmen must take or validate Calc 1 and Calc 2, they tend to be rather large classes. So "scores" is a relative term.
    I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds.
     
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    The airforcetimes just updated their story. Now there are 10 cadets under suspicion.

    Far fewer than scores.
     
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    10? That's barely a Gaggle.
     
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    Just two handfuls.
     
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    I wouldn't even consider 10 a plethora.
     
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    In a famous speech from the 19th century (see Lincoln, A.), it was established that a score equals 20.
     
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    Four score must be eighty. Then add seven.
     
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    Unbelievable! How can this happen at one of the best & prestigious institutions?

    I recall that one engineering student at Stanford used his friend’s coding assignment. Of course, he revised it nicely but the department’s software detected that the modified and compiled coding assignment had very similar memory allocations with another student although overall coding structures looked different.

    Based on the school’s Honor Code, the student was suspended for several months. I believe that he left the Farm eventually. Even one compromise on Honor was not tolerated at all. There was no exception.

    Honor is the basic and vital factor required for a future leader.

    It’s all about Accountability. They must face it per USAFA Honor Code.
     
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    The Honor Code is taken seriously. A sanctions review panel considers time under the honor code, egregiousness of the offense, forthrightness of the accused cadet(s), and type of report when making a recommendation. We do not know the entirety of this situation. Rehabilitation (with punitive measures) is not out of the question.

    You can read the Air Force Cadet Wing Honor Code Reference Handbook here: https://www.usafa.edu/app/uploads/AFCW_HCRH_Jun17.pdf
     
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    My class at USNA had a similar headline in the media. Speculation all over. In the end there wasn’t any cheating. It was a mandatory class the entire class was taking at once. Professors ended up ‘over sharing’ finals prep. When you combine that across tons of Mids as you prep we pretty much ended up with the entire final. No professors had said we could not prep and study together. We all had to retake the final in the end, but there was no cheating scandal as headlines indicated. This doesn’t appear to be that, but the headlines and media are very vague. Let the process play out.
     
  18. Devil Doc

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    Media sources of all stripes are too quick to put out a story before the event becomes a story. Publishing outright lies is always overcome by the news cycle which demands another story with numerous clicks within hours of the last. The outlet doesn’t even have to apologize and rarely puts out a correction.
     
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    Yep the “news” of today, is not the “news” of our yesterday’s. It’s evolved into a whole different thing. Hopefully users are also evolving....and don’t take stories at their word.
     
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    I’m a ravenous consumer of information. I use numerous sources and still try to verify through other means.

    Yellow Journalism though is not a new thing. The literature shows slanted news stories and agendas originating from New York and affiliated with a political party. I’d bet yellow journalism happened before then, but modern media and its influence on public policy and electoral decisions is recent but has long existed in the short history of the American experiment.