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DD has been boxing for some time but was recently told to focus more on close quarters combat skills such as mma, jiu jitsu, or Krav Maga as close quarters combat is taught on multiple occasions throughout time at usma or usafa? Can any current cadets or others confirm/verify? Thank you!
 
Boxing class is required plebe year. There will be combative during Beast. There are company athletics that include grappling or other fighting techniques. I wouldn’t over think it. They will get necessary instruction.
 
I'll emphasize dddad last sentence. They'll get the necessary instructions. Many cadets haven't had any contact at all with this kind of stuff.
 
I see that your DD received an offer of appointment-Congratulations to her! Unsolicited advice if/when she accepts is to continue to work hard of PT/grades, no senioritis, & just as importantly enjoy the last months of her HS senior year. You only get 1 senior yr. & the upcoming summer academy experience is intense which is an understatement. Memories made from now until then, hanging out with friends, weekend trips w/family, A DAD/daughter or Mom/daughter, visits to grandparents, etc. can provide unbelievable value in bolstering morale during Beast. It did for my DD. Best of luck to her whichever path she chooses!
 
Boxing and wrestling are done at USNA in plebe year. DD said, “Sometimes I rocked the other girl. Sometimes they rocked me.” One thing she hated was when two girls went into the sparring round with almost an understanding that they’d go soft on each other. I don’t think she went soft on anyone, because she didn’t expect anyone to go soft on her.
 
There are a lot of combatives clubs here. We do combatives in summer training but also take it as a DPE class and have the opportunity to receive Army Combatives Level 1, 2, and 3 certifications. If it is something she is interested in, there are definitely opportunities here. If it's not something she genuinely likes to do, there is no point in practicing it before getting here.
 
CO2024 said:
DD has been boxing for some time but was recently told to focus more on close quarters combat skills such as mma, jiu jitsu, or Krav Maga as close quarters combat is taught on multiple occasions throughout time at usma or usafa? Can any current cadets or others confirm/verify? Thank you!
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West Point has a National Championship winning Judo Team. They are very, very good....
 
Uncle Sam will teach you what you need to know. I do think your DD will be ahead of the curve from the standpoint of knowing what it is like to stand toe-to-toe with someone and take a punch to the nose. Unlike my generation, today's no-tolerance rules means that there are a lot less dust-ups than there were years ago. Kids that box, wrestle, martial arts, etc are familiar, at least, with the ability to function after being hit.
 
USMCGrunt said:
Uncle Sam will teach you what you need to know. I do think your DD will be ahead of the curve from the standpoint of knowing what it is like to stand toe-to-toe with someone and take a punch to the nose. Unlike my generation, today's no-tolerance rules means that there are a lot less dust-ups than there were years ago. Kids that box, wrestle, martial arts, etc are familiar, at least, with the ability to function after being hit.
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I disagree with this. The history of the US military is replete with examples of military personnel being ill or unprepared for combat in almost every conflict since the revolution. If this was the case we wouldn’t have had a Kasserine Pass, Task Force Smith, the attack on the 507th Maintenance Company. The list is endless of military personnel poorly prepared for the rigors of combat.
Anything a person can do to help prepare themselves for military service is a bonus. Be it combatives, exercise, marksmanship, etc.
 
UHBlackhawk said:
Anything a person can do to help prepare themselves for military service is a bonus. Be it combatives, exercise, marksmanship, etc.
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@UHBlackhawk - I agree and wasn't trying to say otherwise. I was hoping to make a point about the experience of taking a hit. I certainly agree that personal prep is a bonus.

Thankfully, history is also filled with an endless list of scenarios where military personnel rose to the occasion due to personal and institutional training, ingenuity and grit.
 
USMCGrunt said:
@UHBlackhawk - I agree and wasn't trying to say otherwise. I was hoping to make a point about the experience of taking a hit. I certainly agree that personal prep is a bonus.

Thankfully, history is also filled with an endless list of scenarios where military personnel rose to the occasion due to personal and institutional training, ingenuity and grit.
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I figured as much. We seem to see eye to eye on most of this stuff.
 
Army combatives is not as good compared to the techniques you could learn from Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, MMA, or muay thai. Army combatives is a more watered down version of these martial arts due to the high numbers of people needed to be trained in hand to hand combat. It's the same reason WTF Taekwondo and Karate are crap. If you want to get started learning a (real) martial art, it never hurts to start now despite only having a few months before beast. Do you need to be a BJJ black belt to be successful? of course not. However, if you are interested in knowing a more comprehensive art of fighting, do martial arts!
btw ive been doing martial arts for five years so dont @ me
 
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