Coastal Science and Math graduate - Navy / Coast Guard

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I am a female graduating in May in Coastal Environmental Science and Math. I am looking at OCS Navy or Coast Guard but do not have any idea where to start other than researching online. Trying to avoid simply walking into a recruiting office in a strip mall but want to learn what career paths are available to me. Suggestions on what my next step should be? Thanks.
 
Officer recruiters will not be at the local strip mall office. The fine folks in there are focused on enlisted recruiting.

Try the link below to find a Navy officer recruiter to discuss OCS.

https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/nstc/otcn/contact.aspx

That phone conversation will likely lead to a meeting with the officer recruiter for your geographic area.

If you haven’t already, read everything you can on Navy primary sites about officer career paths.

Your STEM background is a good thing. An officer recruiter will discuss the physical and other requirements.

Please realize that any OCS/OTS program is highly competitive. The Services use these to adjust new officer intake numbers, depending on what they are getting from USNA, NROTC and other commissioning paths. They can afford to be highly choosy. Very strong GPA, excellent performance in STEM courses, able to pass the military physical entrance standards, etc.

Comb through link below to find CG officer recruiter.
https://www.gocoastguard.com/active...unities/programs/officer-candidate-school-ocs

Down the road, starting OCS in summer in Newport, RI, is better than starting in fall and spending time outside in the winter adjacent to Narragansett Bay. I can attest to this.
 
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Would suggest considering enlisting and then applying for OCS as well. The civilian OCS process can extend years sometimes, especially if you aren't picked up for a seat right away. My bet is that this FY is already full and FY20 boards are probably already rolling. Both enlisted and officer accession have a lot of overlap (security clearance, medical, etc), so you wouldn't be wasting time.

Just another avenue to explore if it is looking like you wouldn't get a seat until 2020...
 
Thank you for the links to use as a starting point. I am planning to read all I can before I make the first call but will move along quickly so I can learn what my options and chances are. Any other suggestions are welcomed!
 
“A recruiting office in a strip mall” sounds so dirty. Oily. Yuk

My son’s OSO years ago was in a nice suburban office establishment. Much more fitting for an officer.

The three office unit shared a head with the psychiatrist next door.

The potential Marine officer candidate had a choice. Which door? Marines or nut house. Is there a difference?
 
Would suggest considering enlisting and then applying for OCS as well. The civilian OCS process can extend years sometimes, especially if you aren't picked up for a seat right away. My bet is that this FY is already full and FY20 boards are probably already rolling. Both enlisted and officer accession have a lot of overlap (security clearance, medical, etc), so you wouldn't be wasting time.

Just another avenue to explore if it is looking like you wouldn't get a seat until 2020...

Enlisting & then applying for OCS could take as long, or longer, than applying for OCS as a civilian. And with no guarantees of getting accepted.
 
Would suggest considering enlisting and then applying for OCS as well. The civilian OCS process can extend years sometimes, especially if you aren't picked up for a seat right away. My bet is that this FY is already full and FY20 boards are probably already rolling. Both enlisted and officer accession have a lot of overlap (security clearance, medical, etc), so you wouldn't be wasting time.

Just another avenue to explore if it is looking like you wouldn't get a seat until 2020...

Enlisting & then applying for OCS could take as long, or longer, than applying for OCS as a civilian. And with no guarantees of getting accepted.

Yes, I recognized that in my original post. However, during that time:
  • Security clearance is processed
  • Member is regularly paid and begins accruing leave and retirement points
  • TRICARE benefits are rolling
  • Technical training is accomplished
  • Member is no longer considered a civilian applicant to OCS
  • Member is acclimated to military life
 
... and member is enlisted and committed with no guarantee on outcome. You have to be a clear leader to pull this off. It can work for some. It may not work for others. Included here in the spirit of full disclosure. This is not a BAD route but one needs to fully understand the risks.
 
I'm not a big fan of the enlist first then apply recommendation. There are too many very well qualified applicants for too few spots.
 
I think both of you are under the impression it is much harder to commission as an enlisted member than it actually is. Perhaps it used to be that way, but it certainly is not now.

There are many commissioning programs open to enlisted members that are not open to civilians. In my career, I cannot think of a single enlisted member I have known that (a) wanted to be an officer, (b) was eligible to commission, and (c) was denied the commission. I have met several people that tried to come in via civilian OTS and wound up quitting due to how long the process took (or were ultimately denied). I have also met many young enlisted all throughout my career that specifically enlisted in order to commission through OTS, AFA, or ROTC. They enlisted to ease that route and be able to build a stronger package. Many already had their 4-year degrees. Most, if not all, were successful.

Either way, it looks like OP is gone, so for whoever else swings by this thread, enlisting is not "risky" :), it is a way to go ahead and start your service while working on an OCS/OTS package and waiting on selection. Unless you enlist into a career field with a long service commitment (of which I am not aware of many at all), you will not lose any time other than the time spent in Basic and technical training-- both of which typically take no longer than 6-8 months total at the absolute most.

Most importantly, just because you enlist for 3/4/5/6 years, you do not have to serve that full enlistment prior to commissioning
. Once you are out of technical training (with very few restrictions), you can apply for and receive commissioning at any time. The only "risk" is having to pay back an enlistment bonus that you might have received.
 
I think both of you are under the impression it is much harder to commission as an enlisted member than it actually is. Perhaps it used to be that way, but it certainly is not now.

I actually retired in this century but you're right, my information is probably dated. It is also pretty much restricted to 26 years with the Navy/Marine Corps team.
 
I don't disagree with anything you say @Tbpxece . Nevertheless there is no guarantee and that's all I'm pointing out. Its perhaps a small risk that someone should take into consideration.
 
Navy has spoken.
Now, for USCG OCS you do want to check in with the nearest Recruiting Office. The Officer's Job Aid Kit (OJAK) is available on-line through gocoastguard.com. You can download it and learn everything you need. However, most recruiting offices have a recruiter who can actually help you prepare your package. But unlike the other services, you might be quite a distance from even your nearest recruiter (although with a degree in Coastal Sci you probably aren't far, as they tend to be near water ;)). Also, unlike the other services, enlisting first can be a help in getting to OCS, although still very competitive. As enlisted you are likely to be doing marine environmental work. The upside to USCG is you choose what you want to do as enlisted. The rating is MST (Marine Science Technician). The downside of that rating is that you will have to wait 2-3 years to get to A-school. Also, you do not have to wait to graduate from A-school to apply to OCS. You can apply right out of basic training, or even apply simultaneously to OCS and enlist.
I can get you more info if you wish.
 
A keeper primer on this particular aspect of Coast Guard paths.
 
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