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Samvance3

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Hello, I’m a reapplying this year to USAFA and I was wondering if anybody had some insight on how admissions views college applications. My life consist of school, a internship, work, sports, and volunteering and I believe I’m competitive in every aspect except academics. I have a 26 ACT which is extremely low and why I chose to go to college this year I’m hopes of another shot at an appointment. I have maintained a 4.0 g.p.a in college this year, but because of my college classes taken in high school I have a 3.62 g.p.a. My scores on the ACT were the following: science 30, reading 30, English 23, math 22. I decided to focus on English and Math in college and have taken ENG 100/200H, Chemistry, College Algebra, pre-calculus, and mechanical computations. I am wondering if this will help me with a possible appointment or a prep school. If anybody has any advice, concerns, questions, or knowledge please let me know what you think!
 
You can always retake the ACT. I figure though if you're taking college engineering courses (ie math, science, GE english, etc) and doing well that speaks to your knowledge of more advanced topics than those on the ACT.
 
anlee said:
You can always retake the ACT. I figure though if you're taking college engineering courses (ie math, science, GE english, etc) and doing well that speaks to your knowledge of more advanced topics than those on the ACT.
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I appreciate the reply and yes I was planning on retaking the ACT but I couldn’t get a test until late Feb. which according to the handbook would not be processed. I didn’t really think I could get in last year and I really didn’t push my hardest, one of my life’s biggest mistakes. If I’m not appointed this year I will reapply next year without a question!!
 
Other people have said that they have done better on the SAT than the ACT, or vice versa. Maybe you could try taking the SAT and see what happens. Great job on making improvements in college, and good luck!
 
KiwiBird said:
Other people have said that they have done better on the SAT than the ACT, or vice versa. Maybe you could try taking the SAT and see what happens. Great job on making improvements in college, and good luck!
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I appreciate the response, I see you’re appointed and I just want to say Congratulations!! If this year doesn’t go as planned then I will definitely explore the SAT next time!
 
I was actually asked about my SAT score in my interview this year, it is above average but definitely could have been higher. I simply stated that I'm excelling in higher level math and engineering courses where the topics on the SAT are foundational, implying that I have mastered SAT topics and can apply them to real world scenarios.
 
anlee said:
I was actually asked about my SAT score in my interview this year, it is above average but definitely could have been higher. I simply stated that I'm excelling in higher level math and engineering courses where the topics on the SAT are foundational, implying that I have mastered SAT topics and can apply them to real world scenarios.
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Thanks for the reply! I agree with my situation. I have done well in all my classes and it’s never been a problem. I just haven’t had great ACT test. I spoke in similar fashion during my interviews and received good word from my ALO and interviewers that they believed I have comprehended the math needed to excel at the academy. I received 3 nominations despite my scores, but two of my interviews for nominations actually took special notice of being competent despite my scores and were very hopeful about my application. Hope all goes well and if not it just gives me another year to get better!
 
So this was me - I went to college and reapplied, keep in mind that you are still being compared to the high school applicants. So keep up with all those extra curricular activities, and try your best to make yourself even more well rounded. I ended up enlisting before they finally accepted me (on my 4th application). Basically what I am trying to say, is keep it up. I know reapplying can be annoying and a long process but stick with it- USAFA has been more than worth it.
 
kylieM said:
So this was me - I went to college and reapplied, keep in mind that you are still being compared to the high school applicants. So keep up with all those extra curricular activities, and try your best to make yourself even more well rounded. I ended up enlisting before they finally accepted me (on my 4th application). Basically what I am trying to say, is keep it up. I know reapplying can be annoying and a long process but stick with it- USAFA has been more than worth it.
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Thank you for the response, do you mind if I personal message you to ask about your experiences and seek mentor ship from you?
 
Samvance3 said:
Hello, I’m a reapplying this year to USAFA and I was wondering if anybody had some insight on how admissions views college applications. My life consist of school, a internship, work, sports, and volunteering and I believe I’m competitive in every aspect except academics. I have a 26 ACT which is extremely low and why I chose to go to college this year I’m hopes of another shot at an appointment. I have maintained a 4.0 g.p.a in college this year, but because of my college classes taken in high school I have a 3.62 g.p.a. My scores on the ACT were the following: science 30, reading 30, English 23, math 22. I decided to focus on English and Math in college and have taken ENG 100/200H, Chemistry, College Algebra, pre-calculus, and mechanical computations. I am wondering if this will help me with a possible appointment or a prep school. If anybody has any advice, concerns, questions, or knowledge please let me know what you think!
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Good attitude! I’m a current sophomore just two semesters from completing my Associates degree. Of course it really shows dedication that you are reapplying despite a rejection. From what I’ve seen ( and I’m seeking similar advice for the USNA) is to improve in all aspects of your initial application grades, ECA’s, SAT/ACT, etc. I have no doubt you’ll make this dream a reality!
 
kylieM said:
So this was me - I went to college and reapplied, keep in mind that you are still being compared to the high school applicants. So keep up with all those extra curricular activities, and try your best to make yourself even more well rounded. I ended up enlisting before they finally accepted me (on my 4th application). Basically what I am trying to say, is keep it up. I know reapplying can be annoying and a long process but stick with it- USAFA has been more than worth it.
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Wow! thank you for showing us with hard work and dedication anything is possible. In the same boat but for USNA. It’s looking as I might receive TWE this go round but I’m reapplying this upcoming cycle. As a college reapplicant I feel confident in the process as I now know what to expect.
 
Samvance3 said:
Hello, I’m a reapplying this year to USAFA and I was wondering if anybody had some insight on how admissions views college applications.
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First, suggest you contact a mod about changing your call sign. This is an anonymous forum, so if that’s your real name and photo, you should swap.

Second, always great to see those previously declined trying again. It says a lot about you.

Now, let’s take it apart a bit. SAT/ACT matter because they’re (allegedly and purportedly) the best tools we have of predicting your college performance. They’re also a means of looking beyond GPAs, which can be rather undependable because school rigor and quality vary wildly, and there’s no national standard for GPAs.

By attending college, you’re now actually showing USAFA how you’d do with college-level academics. That’s why SAs recommend that you take a plebe-like schedule: at least freshman-level calculus, chemistry, English and U.S. history. You’ve now taken pre-calc, which may or may not be enough, when calculus seems to be the basic math measuring stick for SAs. In the end, you want to provide evidence that you’ll succeed in USAFA’s classroom. Best wishes.
 
Samvance3 said:
MidCakePa said:
First, suggest you contact a mod about changing your call sign. This is an anonymous forum, so if that’s your real name and photo, you should swap.

Second, always great to see those previously declined trying again. It says a lot about you.

Now, let’s take it apart a bit. SAT/ACT matter because they’re (allegedly and purportedly) the best tools we have of predicting your college performance. They’re also a means of looking beyond GPAs, which can be rather undependable because school rigor and quality vary wildly, and there’s no national standard for GPAs.

By attending college, you’re now actually showing USAFA how you’d do with college-level academics. That’s why SAs recommend that you take a plebe-like schedule: at least freshman-level calculus, chemistry, English and U.S. history. You’ve now taken pre-calc, which may or may not be enough, when calculus seems to be the basic math measuring stick for SAs. In the end, you want to provide evidence that you’ll succeed in USAFA’s classroom. Best wishes
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I appreciate the response, I understand that my pre-calculus may not be enough, but I sure hope that it is! I should also note I’ve gotten 2 u.s history’s out the way in high school and one world history. Hopefully it all works out!
 
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kylieM said:
So this was me - I went to college and reapplied, keep in mind that you are still being compared to the high school applicants. So keep up with all those extra curricular activities, and try your best to make yourself even more well rounded. I ended up enlisting before they finally accepted me (on my 4th application). Basically what I am trying to say, is keep it up. I know reapplying can be annoying and a long process but stick with it- USAFA has been more than worth it.
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Thanks for the response and encouragement hopefully, we will both be appointed or given prep school scholarships! I’m just waiting to be 3q in order to hear about acceptance! Best wishes to you!
 
a_gerardoz said:
Wow! thank you for showing us with hard work and dedication anything is possible. In the same boat but for USNA. It’s looking as I might receive TWE this go round but I’m reapplying this upcoming cycle. As a college reapplicant I feel confident in the process as I now know what to expect.
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Thank you for responding, I really do appreciate the encouragement! I hope the best for you with your application. The way I see it college is like the prep school, but it’s not the golden ticket. I have no doubt it will help us at our academies. I have a friend who is a plebe (I think that’s right) at USNA this year. He’s been a mentor to me with my application even though he goes to a different academy. He told me anyone who goes to college after high school usually excels in classes compared to those that haven’t. The reasons why is the transition from high school to college love and where we already have some of that the transition from civilian to military college is a lot simpler! Good luck my friend and best wishes!
 
Samvance3 said:
Thank you for responding, I really do appreciate the encouragement! I hope the best for you with your application. The way I see it college is like the prep school, but it’s not the golden ticket. I have no doubt it will help us at our academies. I have a friend who is a plebe (I think that’s right) at USNA this year. He’s been a mentor to me with my application even though he goes to a different academy. He told me anyone who goes to college after high school usually excels in classes compared to those that haven’t. The reasons why is the transition from high school to college love and where we already have some of that the transition from civilian to military college is a lot simpler! Good luck my friend and best wishes!
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Absolutely! I know it’s no easy task!! not everyone can say they’ve tackled this extremely competitive application process haha. Thank you for your incredibly kind words too! Honestly I can’t imagine what this process is like for high school juniors and seniors who apply! I had the privilege to attend the USNA CVW my sophomore year but didn’t end up applying. I already feel more confident giving it another go knowing exactly what to expect and what admissions wants to see from all candidates especially college re applicants! Wishing you all the luck and success as you CAN and WILL get to your desired academy.
 
a_gerardoz said:
Absolutely! I know it’s no easy task!! not everyone can say they’ve tackled this extremely competitive application process haha. Thank you for your incredibly kind words too! Honestly I can’t imagine what this process is like for high school juniors and seniors who apply! I had the privilege to attend the USNA CVW my sophomore year but didn’t end up applying. I already feel more confident giving it another go knowing exactly what to expect and what admissions wants to see from all candidates especially college re applicants! Wishing you all the luck and success as you CAN and WILL get to your desired academy.
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I appreciate the love and kindness! You’ll be a great officer, keep up the good work, you got this!
 
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