USNA2014PP
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This was very disappointing for both DS and I. We both expect more of Marines.
This was very disappointing for both DS and I. We both expect more of Marines.
By no means do the Marines have a monopoly on these bizarre stories--remember the Green Beret smuggling two punching bags full of cocaine from Colombia on a US military aircraft? The list seems very long recently.
Every time I read something like that I remember that our O-2 and O-3 DS/DD's are often on the front-line management of these miscreants. Not exactly something that your average junior law associate or bank management trainee has to deal with.
Just thinking out loud...I backpacked through Europe in the summer of 1976. The US military still had an abundance of men and equipment left over from the Vietnam years. US military presence in Europe was close to its peak. In the end, though, the soldiers in Europe largely sat there as a deterrent. I specifically remember several occasions seeing wide open drug use by US soldiers even on a passenger train. I attended a language school in the French Occupation zone of SW Germany and remember the French soldiers, loud and sloppy drunk, at street festivals.
It had me wondering if there is parallel between then and now with draw down in the GWOT--at least by conventional forces. Is there simply not enough "soldiering" to be done. Adolescent males may be bad decision makers, but 18-24 year old males have more freedom to carryout those bad decisions. Does "Idle hands are the work of the Devil" apply to here?
These junior enlisted were looking to make a few thousand.
The captains and admirals in the Fat Leonard case were looking for tens of thousands. Oh, and to be wined and dined by the Fat one.
Both stains on the institution. Is one perceived to be a bigger scandal or about the same?
Good point. It’ll be interesting to see what punishment is awarded these fellas.These junior enlisted were looking to make a few thousand.
The captains and admirals in the Fat Leonard case were looking for tens of thousands. Oh, and to be wined and dined by the Fat one.
Both stains on the institution. Is one perceived to be a bigger scandal or about the same?
The junior enlisted don't have fully formed brains; the O6+'s do...presumably. I know that doesn't answer your question.
The junior enlisted don't have fully formed brains; the O6+'s do...presumably. I know that doesn't answer your question.
The junior enlisted don't have fully formed brains; the O6+'s do...presumably. I know that doesn't answer your question.
Well, I was an officer. I can tell you that I met quite a few enlisted personnel who were a lot smarter than many of the officers I served with.
My DS met a couple of enlisted guys on a submarine this summer, who had Masters degrees.
And yes, I know you were kidding.
This is a big deal of course but not the biggest of deals. Not a good time though to be the 5th Marine Regiment's commander.