Current Yearling at USMA, AMA - Female 2024

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Hey guys! I know it's been a while since I've posted, but last semester for me was an absolute nightmare. I just wanted to drop a thread out and see if anyone had any questions regarding the Army, USMA, Beast, or anything in-between. I've had a little over a year and a half here now, and my experience as a yuk has been super different than my experience as a plebe, so if you guys want to know anything about that, summer training, what it's like taking care of a plebe, etc, ask away!
 
Thank you

My DS will be there June 27th. Anything you can tell about Beast ( how to prepare/things to get / any do not do list). Any other information to prepare him and us will be helpful. We are going through many messages you tube on what to buy ( boots/socks/ multitool....) your on ground experience will help. We are from Texas so preparing for east coast will be factor too.

a lot of Anxiety above:)
 
If absolute nightmare, plus possibility of extrapolating that to 7 more years, why not leave for somewhere you'll thrive?
 
If absolute nightmare, plus possibility of extrapolating that to 7 more years, why not leave for somewhere you'll thrive?
Maybe I should clarify - by absolute nightmare, I just mean that academics were really hard for me last semester! I was taking 23 credit hours, and was struggling through some administrative stuff that had to get dealt with on my end, which combined to make last semester super busy, and very difficult. I am by no means trying to imply that I am not thriving here, because I am being challenged here in a way that I would be nowhere else, and I am held to a standard by my peers and my instructors that I wouldn't get at another school. I firmly believe that, with the education that I get here, along with military and leadership training that USMA provides, that I will be setting myself up not only for success in the short-term, but also long-term success to what I anticipate being a long career in the Army.

Going to school here is all about cost-benefit analysis; I personally believe that to thrive, I need people pushing me academically, physically, and militarily. I am surrounded by people more intelligent, more fit, and of better character than myself, and that's what helps me strive to be the best that I can be. Additionally, the stress that USMA puts on its cadets is intentional; they strive to create the most difficult possible working environment so that you're prepared for a future of making difficult decisions quickly, and to the best of your ability, on limited information. I firmly believe that the struggles that USMA has put me through, and is currently putting me through, will make me a better officer, and a better person to serve the needs of the soldiers in the US Army.

Simply put: USMA is hard because it needs to be, and I enjoy trying my best to rise to the challenges that this place presents. It's hard. But I am becoming a better person because of it, and I don't think that I could get that at a run-of-the-mill college.
 
Thank you

My DS will be there June 27th. Anything you can tell about Beast ( how to prepare/things to get / any do not do list). Any other information to prepare him and us will be helpful. We are going through many messages you tube on what to buy ( boots/socks/ multitool....) your on ground experience will help. We are from Texas so preparing for east coast will be factor too.

a lot of Anxiety above:)
Hello!

First and foremost, I want to suggest not worrying too much, or at least not in front of your son. I know that sometimes my parents being nervous really exacerbated my own personal stress levels, so try to feel out what he might need from you leading up to Beast. I know parents worry, but just know that the hard part is over (getting accepted)!

Honestly, coming from Texas, the East Coast shouldn't be too bad. My family just moved to TX this summer from Washington state. The summers in NY aren't too much different than those in TX, except maybe a little more humid. If you can, just have your son work out outside when it's hot as much as possible - if it's not hot, encourage him to wear layers to generate heat. I cannot stress enough the importance of preparing for the heat here. I thought I was prepared; I was not. As for working out - run. Run, run, run, and when you think you've run enough, run more. This is a philosophy that I STILL struggle to adopt, and I wish that I had really focused on before Beast. Be able to run, do push-ups, and do some pull-ups, and he'll be plenty ready for Beast.

As for what to get, my big-ticket item was prickly-heat powder, believe it or not. I got the worst heat rash after exercises in the field, and prickly-heat powder helped me tremendously. Other additional items that I would recommend are a full kit of blister bandages and moleskin, a Leatherman multitool (I seriously recommend Leathermans - they're pricey, but SO worth it), and a 2-3 inch knife of some kind (Gerber, Benchmade, SOG would be some good brands to look at - the Gerber ones hold up particularly well to the battering they receive during summer training, and are reasonably priced). Absolutely ESSENTIAL would be Fox River socks. I don't care if anybody tells you anything different - these are the BEST boot socks. Everybody and their mom wears the tan ones here. They have them in summer lightweight varieties - that would be PERFECT for Beast. They also make some for the winter that are heavy duty that my mom got for me for winter this year, and my feet have been thanking me with how toasty they have been the past few weeks. I would also recommend some sort of anti-chafe balm such as Body Glide, assorted additional bandaids, and your own sunscreen (the stuff they issue is just terrible). Those things, to me, are the biggest ticket items. If your son wants to write you, I recommend sending him with a ton of pre-stamped envelopes, or even just a few, with a few additional stamps. USMA provided some for us initially, which was great, but I was a long-winded writer and sent my parents letters almost every day, so I ran out pretty fast.

Also, get your son boots and low quarters before Beast (at LEAST a month before, but earlier is better) and have him break them in! For boots, any that are AR670-1 compliant are allowed, but I'll list some common brands just for you to peruse:
- Belleville Khyber
- Garmont T8s
- any of the Danner 8 inch coyote boots
- Oakley Coyote Boots
- Nike SFB Gen 2s
- Belleville ONE XERO boots
I am really partial to the Danners, but almost everyone I know swears by the Garmont T8s and the Bellevile ONE XERO's. I didn't have any luck with the Garmonts, which is why I offer so many suggestions; have your son try a pair, and if they don't feel right, keep trying different ones until they do. It sucks to walk around in the woods with shoes that don't fit your feet.

I'm so sorry for the ginormous post, but I hope this helps! Congratulations to your son, and good luck this summer!
 
Thank you and really appreciate you taking time to write.

With leaders and senior like you to guide I am sure my sin will excel in his tenure at WP.
 
HI

Do they need 550 cord and mile tape for Beast. Not sure what this is ? there was mention on some youtube video

Please suggest
 
Any suggestions for what to bring/buy on A-Day for after Beast? I know I will probably need the basics like pencils, folders, etc.., but are there any important items you recommend for academics, pt, sports, or daily life? For example, I have heard that buying an iPad can help keep assignments organized.

Thank you!
 
Good rule of thumb is to pack as if you'll also be carrying a giant duffle bag for a whole day, because you will. So pack light. Tie boots securely to the outside of whatever bag you have to save room. Boot socks and a pack of underwear are the most important. Everyone will bring blister pads and 550 cord so it's not so important when you can borrow some. Multitool is only handy every once in a while. Get a 3-in-one bodywash, toothpaste, toothbrush and razor. A wristwatch that has an alarm, visible at night and a timer is great. A strong red light headlamp is good. Extra pens and paper is good. Sharpie is useful. Duct tape is good. Shoe shine kit I guess.
 
Hello!

First and foremost, I want to suggest not worrying too much, or at least not in front of your son. I know that sometimes my parents being nervous really exacerbated my own personal stress levels, so try to feel out what he might need from you leading up to Beast. I know parents worry, but just know that the hard part is over (getting accepted)!

Honestly, coming from Texas, the East Coast shouldn't be too bad. My family just moved to TX this summer from Washington state. The summers in NY aren't too much different than those in TX, except maybe a little more humid. If you can, just have your son work out outside when it's hot as much as possible - if it's not hot, encourage him to wear layers to generate heat. I cannot stress enough the importance of preparing for the heat here. I thought I was prepared; I was not. As for working out - run. Run, run, run, and when you think you've run enough, run more. This is a philosophy that I STILL struggle to adopt, and I wish that I had really focused on before Beast. Be able to run, do push-ups, and do some pull-ups, and he'll be plenty ready for Beast.

As for what to get, my big-ticket item was prickly-heat powder, believe it or not. I got the worst heat rash after exercises in the field, and prickly-heat powder helped me tremendously. Other additional items that I would recommend are a full kit of blister bandages and moleskin, a Leatherman multitool (I seriously recommend Leathermans - they're pricey, but SO worth it), and a 2-3 inch knife of some kind (Gerber, Benchmade, SOG would be some good brands to look at - the Gerber ones hold up particularly well to the battering they receive during summer training, and are reasonably priced). Absolutely ESSENTIAL would be Fox River socks. I don't care if anybody tells you anything different - these are the BEST boot socks. Everybody and their mom wears the tan ones here. They have them in summer lightweight varieties - that would be PERFECT for Beast. They also make some for the winter that are heavy duty that my mom got for me for winter this year, and my feet have been thanking me with how toasty they have been the past few weeks. I would also recommend some sort of anti-chafe balm such as Body Glide, assorted additional bandaids, and your own sunscreen (the stuff they issue is just terrible). Those things, to me, are the biggest ticket items. If your son wants to write you, I recommend sending him with a ton of pre-stamped envelopes, or even just a few, with a few additional stamps. USMA provided some for us initially, which was great, but I was a long-winded writer and sent my parents letters almost every day, so I ran out pretty fast.

Also, get your son boots and low quarters before Beast (at LEAST a month before, but earlier is better) and have him break them in! For boots, any that are AR670-1 compliant are allowed, but I'll list some common brands just for you to peruse:
- Belleville Khyber
- Garmont T8s
- any of the Danner 8 inch coyote boots
- Oakley Coyote Boots
- Nike SFB Gen 2s
- Belleville ONE XERO boots
I am really partial to the Danners, but almost everyone I know swears by the Garmont T8s and the Bellevile ONE XERO's. I didn't have any luck with the Garmonts, which is why I offer so many suggestions; have your son try a pair, and if they don't feel right, keep trying different ones until they do. It sucks to walk around in the woods with shoes that don't fit your feet.

I'm so sorry for the ginormous post, but I hope this helps! Congratulations to your son, and good luck this summer!
Which of the fox river socks do you have? If you can remember. I'm thinking we want to order brown and black in the lightweight mid-calf and heavy weight midcalf. Did you ever find any need for the crew length, the over the calf, ultra-lightweight, or wick dry?
Oh, and how many pairs of each would you recommend bringing with you to Beast?
 
Hello!

First and foremost, I want to suggest not worrying too much, or at least not in front of your son. I know that sometimes my parents being nervous really exacerbated my own personal stress levels, so try to feel out what he might need from you leading up to Beast. I know parents worry, but just know that the hard part is over (getting accepted)!

Honestly, coming from Texas, the East Coast shouldn't be too bad. My family just moved to TX this summer from Washington state. The summers in NY aren't too much different than those in TX, except maybe a little more humid. If you can, just have your son work out outside when it's hot as much as possible - if it's not hot, encourage him to wear layers to generate heat. I cannot stress enough the importance of preparing for the heat here. I thought I was prepared; I was not. As for working out - run. Run, run, run, and when you think you've run enough, run more. This is a philosophy that I STILL struggle to adopt, and I wish that I had really focused on before Beast. Be able to run, do push-ups, and do some pull-ups, and he'll be plenty ready for Beast.

As for what to get, my big-ticket item was prickly-heat powder, believe it or not. I got the worst heat rash after exercises in the field, and prickly-heat powder helped me tremendously. Other additional items that I would recommend are a full kit of blister bandages and moleskin, a Leatherman multitool (I seriously recommend Leathermans - they're pricey, but SO worth it), and a 2-3 inch knife of some kind (Gerber, Benchmade, SOG would be some good brands to look at - the Gerber ones hold up particularly well to the battering they receive during summer training, and are reasonably priced). Absolutely ESSENTIAL would be Fox River socks. I don't care if anybody tells you anything different - these are the BEST boot socks. Everybody and their mom wears the tan ones here. They have them in summer lightweight varieties - that would be PERFECT for Beast. They also make some for the winter that are heavy duty that my mom got for me for winter this year, and my feet have been thanking me with how toasty they have been the past few weeks. I would also recommend some sort of anti-chafe balm such as Body Glide, assorted additional bandaids, and your own sunscreen (the stuff they issue is just terrible). Those things, to me, are the biggest ticket items. If your son wants to write you, I recommend sending him with a ton of pre-stamped envelopes, or even just a few, with a few additional stamps. USMA provided some for us initially, which was great, but I was a long-winded writer and sent my parents letters almost every day, so I ran out pretty fast.

Also, get your son boots and low quarters before Beast (at LEAST a month before, but earlier is better) and have him break them in! For boots, any that are AR670-1 compliant are allowed, but I'll list some common brands just for you to peruse:
- Belleville Khyber
- Garmont T8s
- any of the Danner 8 inch coyote boots
- Oakley Coyote Boots
- Nike SFB Gen 2s
- Belleville ONE XERO boots
I am really partial to the Danners, but almost everyone I know swears by the Garmont T8s and the Bellevile ONE XERO's. I didn't have any luck with the Garmonts, which is why I offer so many suggestions; have your son try a pair, and if they don't feel right, keep trying different ones until they do. It sucks to walk around in the woods with shoes that don't fit your feet.

I'm so sorry for the ginormous post, but I hope this helps! Congratulations to your son, and good luck this summer!
Really great tips. Thanks for taking the time to share.
 
Any suggestions for what to bring/buy on A-Day for after Beast? I know I will probably need the basics like pencils, folders, etc.., but are there any important items you recommend for academics, pt, sports, or daily life? For example, I have heard that buying an iPad can help keep assignments organized.

Thank you!
They will be sent a packing list. Follow the list
Don’t bring any unnecessary extras, everything that they bring plus what will be issued will be carried by the New Cadet all day.
Remember that!
Other “extras” can be purchased at the Cadet store later.
 
If anything please bring tons of black socks and underwear, black socks can be worn with any uniform and it'll help a lot having a ton of them to change like 2 or 3 times a day. If you can't find shoe polish or some of the other smaller stuff it's not a big deal you can just buy them at the C-store so don't drive hours to get something small.
 
If anything please bring tons of black socks and underwear, black socks can be worn with any uniform and it'll help a lot having a ton of them to change like 2 or 3 times a day. If you can't find shoe polish or some of the other smaller stuff it's not a big deal you can just buy them at the C-store so don't drive hours to get something small.
I’ll second this advice. My son is a current plebe. This year we sent him lots of extra pairs of black socks and underwear which has helped him quite a bit. Pack as many of those as you can fit.
On one of his breaks, he brought home all the white socks we bought for him because he says those are not really useful.
 
My '21 Old Grad still uses the Fox River socks he got while at USMA. Worth the investment.
 
Maybe I should clarify - by absolute nightmare, I just mean that academics were really hard for me last semester! I was taking 23 credit hours, and was struggling through some administrative stuff that had to get dealt with on my end, which combined to make last semester super busy, and very difficult. I am by no means trying to imply that I am not thriving here, because I am being challenged here in a way that I would be nowhere else, and I am held to a standard by my peers and my instructors that I wouldn't get at another school. I firmly believe that, with the education that I get here, along with military and leadership training that USMA provides, that I will be setting myself up not only for success in the short-term, but also long-term success to what I anticipate being a long career in the Army.

Going to school here is all about cost-benefit analysis; I personally believe that to thrive, I need people pushing me academically, physically, and militarily. I am surrounded by people more intelligent, more fit, and of better character than myself, and that's what helps me strive to be the best that I can be. Additionally, the stress that USMA puts on its cadets is intentional; they strive to create the most difficult possible working environment so that you're prepared for a future of making difficult decisions quickly, and to the best of your ability, on limited information. I firmly believe that the struggles that USMA has put me through, and is currently putting me through, will make me a better officer, and a better person to serve the needs of the soldiers in the US Army.

Simply put: USMA is hard because it needs to be, and I enjoy trying my best to rise to the challenges that this place presents. It's hard. But I am becoming a better person because of it, and I don't think that I could get that at a run-of-the-mill college.
My DD had the same experience as you so I know what you mean by nightmare. She loved West Point but she definitely went though some seriously difficult times. She left us in the dark until everything cleared and I have to say she saves me some sleepless nights!
 
Which of the fox river socks do you have? If you can remember. I'm thinking we want to order brown and black in the lightweight mid-calf and heavy weight midcalf. Did you ever find any need for the crew length, the over the calf, ultra-lightweight, or wick dry?
Oh, and how many pairs of each would you recommend bringing with you to Beast?
I apologize for the late reply - I didn't realize people were still commenting on this! I would honestly, for Beast, do the lightweight/midweight midcalf socks. That's what they'll need, brown and black can be used for boots, and black can be used for low quarters. The heavy weight stuff can wait until it gets colder - until then, it's just extra stuff they won't need until the school year starts.

And to answer how many pairs of each, I would honestly do way more than you think you need. You can do less black socks than you do brown, if you'd like, just because you wear the low quarters less, but I would say, bare minimum, fifteen brown and maybe eight black. More is always better, though, with socks in particular.
 
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