Discussion in 'Naval Academy - USNA' started by hugaber15, Jul 24, 2010.
I was just wondering if anyone knew the percentage of nominated who candidates receive appointments?
You have a major variable that can range significantly from year to year - the number of nominated candidates - to be able to give you a percentage that is reasonably consistent. Based on casual observation over a period of years it seems that about 1400to 1500 offers are extended each cycle to produce about 1,225 new plebes.
Also, understand that someone who obtains a nom is not necessarily qualified to receive an appointment. For example, last year one of my candidates had a LOA and a nom. Guaranteed appointment, right? Wrong. Was not medically qualified.
People who receive noms can also not be academically qualified by USNA or may fail their CFA.
In the past, USNA would publish the number of candidates who were triple Q'ed with noms and the number who received offers of appointment. If memory serves -- the numbers typically were about 1800 of the former and, as 64 says, maybe 1400 of the latter. However, I don't believe USNA published those numbers for 2013 or 2014 -- if they have, I haven't seen them.
You are saying that there were, roughly, 1800 total nominations?
Wow! I didn't realize it was that low. Percentage-wise, then, it seems the odds of getting an appointment are quite HIGH; provided, as you you've stated, the nominee is triple-Q'd.
That is certainly an encouraging statistic for those with nominations who are awaiting an appointment.
And yet, we know there are going to be severely disappointed people. Because there certainly are some who get nominations, are triple-Q'd, who will, ultimately, get a rejection.
USNA Class of 2012
2,196 Triple qualified w/ nomination (1,642 unqualified nominees)
1,537 Appointments awarded
1,261 Sworn in
I was triple Q'ed with a nomination last year, and still nothing. It definitely makes the disappointment sting a little more. But when you run the numbers, you can see that most will get a spot. Keep in mind, however, that with over 2,000 kids who are just as smart, talented, and athletic as you are, it is quite possible you will be in the minority that is left out. Please take it as you will...
Roughly, 440 Representitives, governors, mayors etc who can each average 1.2 appointments per year plus some for attrition (factor 1.15). They can nominate ten for each opening. 440 x 1.2 x 1.15 x 10 = 6072. These are unique possible nominations. No one is eligible to be nominated by more than one Representative. Assume slates average being 2/3 filled. Add a few who receive Senators only and a few who receive Presidentials only and they are around 4000, just as Luigi reports.
You can be nominated by more than one representative, but your appointment will be chalked up to only one of them.
The last published numbers I've seen were for the Class of 2012 (thanks Luigi!). The 2013 Profile did not contain this info and I've not seen anything for 2014.
Based on anecdotal evidence only, I think the percentage of those who were triple Q'ed with at least one nom and did NOT get an appointment was probably higher last year than in the past. So, if you were one of those last year, please don't base your level of disappointment on the numbers/percentages for 2012.
Many candidates who have Pres noms also pick up MOC noms. Some candidates have 3 noms. And, some noms go unused -- Congressional districts where they may be no applications or no candidates who are remotely qualified.
It used to be that, if you were Triple Q'ed with a nom, especially an MOC nom, you had a really good shot of getting an appointment. The odds are still ok, but (anecdotally at least) apparently not as good as in the past.
Oops. TMI. I was thinking about whoever nominates from the District of Columbia and I think it is their delegate, not the Mayor. Sorry.
You have to domicile in the district from which you receive a nomination from a Representitive so you can only have one. Perhaps you are thinking of the Senators.
yea, rough morning
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