EA selection percentage prediction

Hope I didn't give off the wrong impression...

I'm 51 and my DS has more fingers on his hands than the amount of times he's seen me drinking an alcoholic beverage....

Key words...LOL seen me JK...I'm not a drinker either
 
Just addressing the comments about Det CC's weeding out their prospects before even submitting EA requests - My son's Det is at one of the major SEC schools and closest to MAFB so it's a show unit. He tells me that before the rack and stack were even submitted, his class cohort of prospects had been shrunk to significantly less than the number that RECEIVED slots last year ( below 20 I believe). They were also bluntly told that this year was going to be very hard on non-tech / non rated prospects so plan accordingly.

V/R

Romad
 
^^I know right. Our group has whittled down from the 40 or so 200s and 250s we started with in the fall to 28 that went up for EAs. But that's still higher than last year's ~23.

It's funny how out of the original 60-70 new cadets we started out with in the fall of freshman year, only 22 of us are left. The year before us started with 50+ and are now down to the mid teens.
 
Not every hopeful is has what it takes to make an officer. Slowly the weak get weeded out. That is the test of time. Only the strong survive. Only the most confident,resilient with drive and tenacity and that core inner strength make it through being a GMC get an EA go to SFT and contract.

From what I understand, especially for those going rated, that is the easy part when compared to the level of training that takes place in the military after commissioning. That is when the percentages really start to drop!

So remember be careful of what you wish for and good luck to all those who make it to The Starting Point!!!
 
DS's Det started with 80+ cadets in the fall of his freshman year. Cut in half by the start of his sophomore year. 25 cadets sent up for EA's, but that is still 10 more that were sent up last year. I guess the rumors are true and EA's did not drop today?
 
Correct. The board hasn't met yet. I'm assuming the earliest you'd hear back is next Thursday/Friday 27/28th. (Take it with a grain of salt).

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My class started with 68, dropped to 32 by Spring sem of my 100 year (mainly due to grades & DoDMERB), then down to 16 by next Spring for FTP, & 14 of us were selected. We had to wait three weeks, which sucked.

Keep on keeping on, they'll be out before you know it.
 
ERAU started with ~250 100's in the fall of 2012, then started with ~100 200's in the fall of 2013, dropped to ~85 the Spring of 2014 and 67 cadets are currently awaiting EA's.

Can't be positive about last years numbers...I think it was ~47 cadets up for EA and all but one received EA. Numbers are definitely up this year for hopefuls.
 
More hopefuls + less slots= lower %. Unfortunately I can't see it any other way but I would love to be wrong!
 
I'm curious to know the stats of people who submitted packages lol

More specifically where Commanders decided to draw the line for GPA, PFA, or SAT. Or the averages that will be accepted this year.
 
Capt. Ahab said:
I'm curious to know the stats of people who submitted packages lol

More specifically where Commanders decided to draw the line for GPA, PFA, or SAT. Or the averages that will be accepted this year.
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I'll throw in my stat
Non-tech major with Rated board intentions
3.15 CGPA
96.6 PFA
89 AFOQT-AA (Higher than my SAT scores)
Unknown ranking (Assuming top-third as all of my feedbacks were in the top-third category)

My commander drew a line for all non-tech majors that they needed at least a 95 PFA and a 3.0 CGPA to be submitted. By the end of her EA nominations the size of our FTP class went from 2/3s non-tech to 1/2 non-tech.
 
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Wow. Big drop, I'm not sure our Commander set a bottom line, as I know there are a few cadets with sub-3.0 cGPAs. In fact, I am not even sure our Det turned anyone away. Just people realized it wasn't them or DODMERB got em'.

My stats are:

GPA: 3.2

Major: Non-tech

SAT: 1270

Ranking: no clue

PFA: 96.1

I went rated and qualified BTW. Idk how much of a leg up it gives people.
 
Son's stats are (as I recall)

Major - Technical (CE) Question - How many computer engineering types are out there? There are only 2 in my son's det.

GPA 3.2

PFA - 100%

AFOQT - 90? (I think cumulative - Quant + Written+ Pilot?)

ACT - 31

Top Third Ranking.

On scholarship (not that it means anything for EA slots) :rolleyes:

V/R

Romad
 
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Just curious Alpha and Capt, was your AFROTC cGPA different than your college cGPA? I know they can be different because the AF counts the GPA for all classes taken, to include the ones re-taken. In other words no grade replacement, they count them all including some dual enrollment classes taken in High School. I know in some cases it can help you, but also can hurt you, especially if you had to re-take a class because they include both grades.
 
Something that we will probably never know, but that I am curious about is in regards to commander rankings. Is there a certain guideline that must be followed for rack and stack? Or is it up to each detachments commander to decide what his or her process is in determining?

Hypothetically 2 different commanders might rank and stack the same 20 cadets in a very different order depending upon their perception of what makes a good leader.

Some may rank based strictly on stats and grades while other may decide that the grades and stats are already well covered and base their ranking (currently worth ~40%) strictly on observation and their experience in being able to recognize and ascertain the level of synergy as different cadets are put in charge of the unit.

Thus a cadet who is in the 99% in as far as grades go....but the commander has observed in his/her view that the cadet has issues taking a leadership role in regards to dealing with other cadets would then be ranked lower by the commander who measures his ranking by observation as opposed to the commander whose ranking are governed by grades.

Did I make sense or not ??...I'm in a hurry........(I've got dinner on the stove)
 
Son's det CC is very big on leadership as well as academics - From what I know (not much!) The top cadets seem to be the ones also chosen regularly for leadership positions as well as academics and participation.

Romad
 
I am pretty sure it's up to the individual Det Commander. So yes, two different Commanders could hypothetically rank the same 20 cadets differently.
 
FlyingWildcatDad said:
Just curious Alpha and Capt, was your AFROTC cGPA different than your college cGPA? I know they can be different because the AF counts the GPA for all classes taken, to include the ones re-taken. In other words no grade replacement, they count them all including some dual enrollment classes taken in High School. I know in some cases it can help you, but also can hurt you, especially if you had to re-take a class because they include both grades.
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I have a friend that failed Calc and while the university has a freshman forgiveness program his cGPA for the Air Force is lower than the University GPA. On the other hand I have another friend that had his AP credits accounted for and has a cGPA higher than his University GPA. My cGPA is higher than my University GPA solely because I took community college classes.

For those talking about commander's ranking that is true. My detachment commander advocates for extracurricular training thus all but two 300s in my detachment this year are either in AAS or Honor Guard. I know at Penn State the commander doesn't take AAS or Honor Guard training into account of his ranking. To my recollection my commander rack and stacks according to GPA, Leadership skills (either in ROTC or outside), PFA and SAT scores. Basically she takes account for the other components of the EA selection into her commander's ranking. I am also sure that she looks at all of our feedbacks with our flight commanders to make sure that those who are most prepared for Field Training have better ranking.
 
"To my recollection my commander rack and stacks according to GPA, Leadership skills (either in ROTC or outside), PFA and SAT scores."

Interesting. So basically those components count twice in ones score. And I know ECs outside of ROTC could help, but I thought AAS couldn't help your score.
 
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