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Scholarship has no effect on whether or not you get an EA as far as I hear from my Cadre
 
Sounds crazy to award a 4 year engineering scholarship and then cut you off after your first two years if you had a good gpa and good LOR from your Det commander.
The class of 2013 was the last class before the RIF began affecting the AFROTC scholarship process. The AF was still awarding in-college scholarships to this group last year (when they were freshman). Hopefully the 2014 & later classes will see a substantially higher rate of acceptance into SFT.

Curiously, when reading about the AFROTC scholarship application process, the USAFA application process and the rest.....we always hear about the "whole person score" (evaluation) and how important ECs, athletics, leadership and all the other intangibles are when evaluating future officer potential. Yet when it's time to choose who will attend SFT (and their AF future)....what a cadet has done within the Det is by far the least important consideration.
 
Im not an AS200, but today I was told my det had a 57% selection rate for EAs. Thats really too bad because alot of those cut were good people. Congrats to those who got them and most importantly - DONT SCREW IT UP!

If you made it this far, make sure you finish. Pass your QFR, complete FT and stay out of trouble. There were cases last year of people who made it through the EA process only to get lazy and fail their QFRs or PFAs at field training. That's just ridiculous because it meant they really screwed over someone who would have taken that slot and done good things.

Rant off. Good luck!
 
Are you a contracted scholarship cadet.

What does this mean for you, will you be able to try again or is this the end of the road.

I am not very familiar with AFROTC, my nephew is considering the program, just trying to gather some information for him.

Thanks

I am not on scholarship, so I do have the opportunity to try again next year. In my case I will not be trying again as a 500 for personal reasons. But I do plan on applying for OTS in a few years.
 
I am not on scholarship, so I do have the opportunity to try again next year. In my case I will not be trying again as a 500 for personal reasons. But I do plan on applying for OTS in a few years.

Good luck with whatever path you take.
 
The class of 2013 was the last class before the RIF began affecting the AFROTC scholarship process. The AF was still awarding in-college scholarships to this group last year (when they were freshman). Hopefully the 2014 & later classes will see a substantially higher rate of acceptance into SFT.

Does anyone know what numbers are being thrown around for next year's board? Will it stay around 1800 cadets or increase/decrease?
 
Does anyone know what numbers are being thrown around for next year's board?
I don't know what the numbers are for SFT, but there will definitely be less scholarship students competing for the slots.
 
I just recieved a call from my son that he was selected for a SFT slot. His det was 9 out of 13. My feelings go out to those that were not selected I know some good cadets were left out. Those of you who are going good luck and don't slow down.
 
I just recieved a call from my son that he was selected for a SFT slot. His det was 9 out of 13. My feelings go out to those that were not selected I know some good cadets were left out. Those of you who are going good luck and don't slow down.

Congrats to your DS, Briar!!!!!!!
 
Thank you much, he has worked very hard and it has been on his mind, all the waiting and rumors with the cutbacks. His GPA was 3.0 and wasn't sure it would be enough. He is an aero/space engineer major.
 
Thank you much, he has worked very hard and it has been on his mind, all the waiting and rumors with the cutbacks. His GPA was 3.0 and wasn't sure it would be enough. He is an aero/space engineer major.

Where does he attend?
 
Det 020 results were brutal.. a det that usually has an extremely high number of EA slots earned 3 today for the first half of 200s. The second half will find out tomorrow. Extremely brutal selection...Knowing people with 3.3s and 90+s that are getting cut.
 
The one thing to understand is they do take the major into consideration. They understand that an AE is going to have a more difficult course load than the cadet taking finance.

That being stated there will always be a tipping point where the engineering degree will not be enough to beat the non-tech major.

I may be incorrect, but I believe scholarship or non-scholarship do not play into the equation. I know at least for AFSC it def. does not play into it.

I would assume AFSC and SFT probably have the same % re: scoring.

GPA = 50%
PFA = 15%
AFOQT = 10 or 15%
ECs and rank in he det, make up the remaining %.

For rated AFSC, it changes up a little.
AFOQT and TBAS = 10 or 15% can't recall
Than they change the remaining to include:

SFT rank...Top 10%, top 30%, top 50%, below 50%
LOR, CC review

NOTICE SFT is put into the equation. So remember just because you attend SFT, it is going to matter your graduation rank for next yr.

Alabama is not a fun place to be in the summer, especially July. Do yourself a favor and train before you go. Do it when it is the hottest out there, since the heat you feel in NJ is nothing like what you will endure at Montgomery.
PT is a part of that overall rank when graduation comes about.

As I keep saying, ROTC is like building a house. The house is always built off the last thing. Foundation first, than framing and then exterior, than the interior. You need to complete the previous step before you go on. Also notice, the further you get down the process, the more the options become constricted and unique.

Good luck.
 
kevster said:
Does anyone know what numbers are being thrown around for next year's board? Will it stay around 1800 cadets or increase/decrease?

My guess would be next yrs numbers will be @ the same % or a bit higher. The reason why is as Aglages stated they did not offer IS scholarships for the 14 yr group. That means they have less coming into the pipeline for AFROTC 14.

The reason they may remain at that number is because of 2 reasons:
1. AFA still has a lot for the 14 class, thus, if the AF sees enough in the piepline, they may still need to cut some in 14.
2. Fiscal budget, which will not come into play until October, but would cover SFT. If the budget is cut, they will reduce the numbers.

Those are truly the what ifs, in the equation.

It really is about manpower needs of the future, and nobody here is in their inner circle of MPC to know what they want for 14, and where they are standing in obtaining that number.

Good luck.
 
Im a little worried, being a cadet applying for EA next year. I should have my GPA right around 3.3 or 3.4 after next semester, and my PFA will be 99-100, but I have switched my major from Aerosp. En. to Criminal Justice. Im just hoping the cuts arent as bad as this year. We are also getting a new commander next year as the majority of our cadre are leaving, so Im curious how that will affect my commanders rating. Extremely worried that Im not going to get accepted after watching some spectacular cadets get cut this year
 
Switching majors may cause a ding, but your GPA and PFA are strong. You have yet to take the AFOQT, so that is the unknown.

Regarding your Commander leaving, the hand off will not really impact you. A new commander will look at the AD members and the Cadet Commanders (POC) to get input.

I am not sure what you mean by the majority of the cadre leaving, if it is C400's well that happens, but the C300's would be promoted to 400, thus, they will meet with them to give a smooth transition.

Right now it will be stats.

GPA
PFA
AFOQT

Major is a minor part in the equation, but in the end there will always be that last one and 2 or 3 to select from. If all points are equal major will be a factor.
 
Switching majors may cause a ding, but your GPA and PFA are strong. You have yet to take the AFOQT, so that is the unknown.

Regarding your Commander leaving, the hand off will not really impact you. A new commander will look at the AD members and the Cadet Commanders (POC) to get input.

I am not sure what you mean by the majority of the cadre leaving, if it is C400's well that happens, but the C300's would be promoted to 400, thus, they will meet with them to give a smooth transition.

Right now it will be stats.

GPA
PFA
AFOQT

Major is a minor part in the equation, but in the end there will always be that last one and 2 or 3 to select from. If all points are equal major will be a factor.

Do they look at ACT/SATs? I know at the beginning of the semester there was a really big deal regarding the AFOQT and that only AS300s would take it when they get back from field training when applying for rated slots. I cant remember what the outcome was though..

ACT=30
SAT=1860

Did changing my major necessarily hurt me and get points deducted, or is it just that they view tech majors more favorably?
 
Just found out now.
9/19. Brutal!! I can tell that GPA and PFA was weighed very heavily, people either had a very high PFA or a very high GPA.

Whether you got it or not much respect for getting this far. This will help you in your life no matter what you end up doing. Keep your head held high and be proud of what you've accomplished.

For those who made it, see y'all in Alabama!
9 of 26 got EA's at my detachment. I had a scholarship with a 3.9 GPA and a 96.6 PFA and I did not get one. Everyone was shocked with the results.
 
I can't answer that, our DS went through the system when they took AFOQT as freshman (08, class of 12). I know they backed the AFOQT, so they may use the SAT/ACT for class of 14.

They will always give an edge to tech, but as I stated before there is a tipping point.

A tech cadet with a low gpa and PFA will take a ding compared to a cadet that is non-tech with a high gpa and PFA.

It is like scholarships, the whole picture of the candidate, AND the AF needs.
 
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