Federalist Article by Former Cadet

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Those who made the final decisions in regards to the handling of this need to field questions and provide answers. Not subordinates, not spokespersons, the decision makers. Tough calls were made. Explain the rationale behind the decisions. Be forthright and respectable. This can be a time to shine and set a good example.

I hope it goes this way.....
 
I’m glad she lives in a country where free speech is generally the norm, though it can degenerate to ugliness all around. In some countries, she and her family would be whisked off to a “re-education camp” for disagreeing with a mandate.
 
We host exchange students. Have had many over many years. Two years ago, during political unrest in a students home country, our student was so excited to be HERE and able to voice his opinion. And he did so, all over the place. Much to his programs surprise actually, and they warmed him against doing so.

His account was shut down by his government. So was his parents. Without warning. We are so used to speaking freely!
 
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Correct. Lots to unpack. How about we look at it a bit at a time? One of my issues is the hyperfocus on making everyone get the vaccine without acknowledging some of the science. For example, she indicates she had covid. Some very large studies have indicated that prior covid immunity is substantial and greater and more longstanding than any vaccination. Hard to respect the process when everyone wants to ignore the science. Other countries have acknowledged the impact of prior covid. Why does the CDC or our leaders ignore this? Hmmm.... Makes you wonder and not trust the process. I admire her for sticking to her guns.
 
jebdad said:
Correct. Lots to unpack. How about we look at it a bit at a time? One of my issues is the hyperfocus on making everyone get the vaccine without acknowledging some of the science. For example, she indicates she had covid. Some very large studies have indicated that prior covid immunity is substantial and greater and more longstanding than any vaccination. Hard to respect the process when everyone wants to ignore the science. Other countries have acknowledged the impact of prior covid. Why does the CDC or our leaders ignore this? Hmmm.... Makes you wonder and not trust the process. I admire her for sticking to her guns.
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No money to be made off natural immunity. Always follow the money.
 
jebdad said:
Correct. Lots to unpack. How about we look at it a bit at a time? One of my issues is the hyperfocus on making everyone get the vaccine without acknowledging some of the science. For example, she indicates she had covid. Some very large studies have indicated that prior covid immunity is substantial and greater and more longstanding than any vaccination. Hard to respect the process when everyone wants to ignore the science. Other countries have acknowledged the impact of prior covid. Why does the CDC or our leaders ignore this? Hmmm.... Makes you wonder and not trust the process. I admire her for sticking to her guns.
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One should weigh the risks of the vaccines vs the risk of healthy people with natural immunity. You don’t see some of the tragedies from the vaccine in the press like Atlanta Hawks guard Brandon Goodwin, for example.

The vaccinated still wear masks as apparently they can spread the virus and
get the disease.

They have allegedly slow walked a pill that is highly successful in preventing symptoms and death according to a whistleblower inside the NIH.


And in the back of my mind - we funded gain of function research with China.

The states that opened up, fought the mandate, have lower vaccinated people, and removed the masks are fairing better with covid now.

i understand the fear.
 
She was a friend of mine and I chatted with her about this from time to time. I respect her choices and am impressed by her tenacity to stick to this perspective (much of her personal case was religiously-motivated) however I will forever believe it to be an interesting hill to die on.

We were well-educated about the vaccine prior to deciding if we wanted it or not. West Point was aware of the inevitable DoD mandate and definitely did pressure us to get it--but I believe that was reasonable given cadets were going to be separated from the Army if they continued to deny it. Macdonald was correct in that there was a lot of peer-pressure to get the shot, because it was seen as a small sacrifice for the betterment of everyone else. Whether or not her choice was actually selfish, it was perceived as such.

Her argument of natural immunity was flawed--reinfections were common even at the Academy during the height of the pandemic, and she had the virus early on, long before the new Delta Variant put the Corps in a chokehold. From my personal interactions with her I believe she was using this argument to mask the religious justification (which is fine, just odd).

She was a promising, motivated cadet, who wanted to branch infantry and serve in the highest capacities. I respect her choice, but disagree with it. I'm saddened by her departure.
 
prospective2019 said:
She was a friend of mine and I chatted with her about this from time to time. I respect her choices and am impressed by her tenacity to stick to this perspective (much of her personal case was religiously-motivated) however I will forever believe it to be an interesting hill to die on.

We were well-educated about the vaccine prior to deciding if we wanted it or not. West Point was aware of the inevitable DoD mandate and definitely did pressure us to get it--but I believe that was reasonable given cadets were going to be separated from the Army if they continued to deny it. Macdonald was correct in that there was a lot of peer-pressure to get the shot, because it was seen as a small sacrifice for the betterment of everyone else. Whether or not her choice was actually selfish, it was perceived as such.

Her argument of natural immunity was flawed--reinfections were common even at the Academy during the height of the pandemic, and she had the virus early on, long before the new Delta Variant put the Corps in a chokehold. From my personal interactions with her I believe she was using this argument to mask the religious justification (which is fine, just odd).

She was a promising, motivated cadet, who wanted to branch infantry and serve in the highest capacities. I respect her choice, but disagree with it. I'm saddened by her departure.
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How many cadets died from covid?
 
prospective2019 said:
She was a friend of mine and I chatted with her about this from time to time. I respect her choices and am impressed by her tenacity to stick to this perspective (much of her personal case was religiously-motivated) however I will forever believe it to be an interesting hill to die on.

We were well-educated about the vaccine prior to deciding if we wanted it or not. West Point was aware of the inevitable DoD mandate and definitely did pressure us to get it--but I believe that was reasonable given cadets were going to be separated from the Army if they continued to deny it. Macdonald was correct in that there was a lot of peer-pressure to get the shot, because it was seen as a small sacrifice for the betterment of everyone else. Whether or not her choice was actually selfish, it was perceived as such.

Her argument of natural immunity was flawed--reinfections were common even at the Academy during the height of the pandemic, and she had the virus early on, long before the new Delta Variant put the Corps in a chokehold. From my personal interactions with her I believe she was using this argument to mask the religious justification (which is fine, just odd).

She was a promising, motivated cadet, who wanted to branch infantry and serve in the highest capacities. I respect her choice, but disagree with it. I'm saddened by her departure.
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Why was her argument about natural immunity flawed?
 
Why?

Like life, economics and the moon - science is a cruel mistress. Science is also like gravity, death, taxation and Thanos - inevitable.

"Whereas there is a wide range in antibody titers in response to infection with SARS-CoV-2, completion of a primary vaccine series, especially with mRNA vaccines, typically leads to a more consistent and higher-titer initial antibody response."

www.cdc.gov

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

Korab said:
No money to be made off natural immunity. Always follow the money.
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Not so, or maybe "there is less money to be made off of natural immunity."

Individuals that donate and bioscience companies across the board are reaping the windfall off of COVID-19 Convalescent Plasma (CCP). CCP is of course extracted from individuals that have been infected with COVID-19.
 
"Because I follow a God who demands absolute truth, I cannot participate in something that has been built on a mountain of lies."

would that the officer corps had such integrity.

oh wait, "just following orders"
 
usmadata said:
"Because I follow a God who demands absolute truth, I cannot participate in something that has been built on a mountain of lies."

would that the officer corps had such integrity.

oh wait, "just following orders"
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When we start to believe that God Almighty shares our opinions, we will justify doing extreme things... like flying planes into towers.
 
Here is the video
kinnem said:
Hannity has 3 young cadets on tonight who left, at least in part, over the vaccine. Talk about well spoken, articulate young women.
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Here is the video, I wanted to see it.

video.foxnews.com

West Point 'glorifies ignorant submission and unethical behavior': Former cadet | Fox News Video

A trio of former West Point cadets join 'Hannity' to express their disappointment in a woke curriculum and vaccine mandate at one of the nation's premier military academies.
video.foxnews.com video.foxnews.com
 
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